2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

She said she was a virgin. She was 18, you don't think she was? 

I have no idea if she is. You can only be a virgin once.

It is hard to imagine a Catholic virgin talking to foreign men on an app.

On 10/27/2025 at 3:39 PM, Cameroni said:

all expenses paid trip to CM

 

You say it like it's something special 

 

I'm 65yo farang and if you offered that to me I'd turn it down bc CM is a big fat nothing burger. It's a dead city full of broke retirees that hate the ocean and sun

 

She saw it/ you as work. You saw it as something else.

 

You're hilarious. Fishing for sluts on Instagram and disappointed when they don't want to live in CM with some old fk

 

She has plenty of that in Phuket plus lots on the side, a condo and a life. You're offering nothing to her 🤣

 

You can't meet quality people in bars or on the internet. It's a weird rule, but true

6 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Maybe she'll be in touch in the next few days. Who knows.

 

Anything is possible. 

 

Right?

 

She probably just needs a bit more time to finish reading this thread. 

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

How is it going to attract anyone if she ghosts after 3 dates? 

 

If her attention is to attract then just disappearing seems a poor strategy. 

 

Come on man. For every 1000 ghosted there are a couple winners. The ones who give her the best insta photos win

10 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Or maybe she had just binned it because she didn't want to be forced to wear it for the old pervert who had bought it for her.

She insisted, not my idea at all.

And she was definitely a bit strange, and maybe a little perverted.

3 hours ago, Celsius said:

 

Come on man. For every 1000 ghosted there are a couple winners. The ones who give her the best insta photos win

 

One of the photos of our dinner made it into her highlight reels on Insta, yet I still got ghosted.

 

It was a bit odd she never friended me on Insta, that was very unusual. Almost all the girls that agree to date and are interested always follow me back on Insta. But CM girl never did. Never asked questions about my age, where I'm from. Just wanted to meet. That was somewhat unusual. Also unusual she has 1400 farang guys in her Insta as followers, almost all of whom are extremely old and unattractive.

 

It almost felt as if she was dating to practice her skils. Looking back the only signs of her really being invested in the process was when she put her hand in mine to say it was cold, look, and when I got home from date 2 and she asked if I got home safe. Yes she was warm, interested and engaged in the conversation, laughing and clowning around, but real investment was thin.

 

I know for a fact, looking at her Insta highlight reels, her trips to HK, KL, Singapore, Beijing, Osaka, Kyoto, Ko Samui, etc, that she has been taken on extremely high luxury trips repeatedly.  I'm not easily impressed, as I do 5 star vacations as a rule myself, but these photos were indicative of someone very rich taking her. She stayed at the Conrad Hotel. That's top of the tree.

 

So yah, maybe it is about material things with her, it can't be discounted. Even then, I took her to the best CM had to offer, but maybe she expected a trip somehwere like Bali. She actually asked me where I'd like to to go on a trip. When I said Phu Quoc in Vietnam, she said "Aaah, Vietnmam" disappointment in her voice. She said she preferred Bali.

6 hours ago, MarcusAurelius said:

 

You say it like it's something special 

 

I'm 65yo farang and if you offered that to me I'd turn it down bc CM is a big fat nothing burger. It's a dead city full of broke retirees that hate the ocean and sun

 

She saw it/ you as work. You saw it as something else.

 

You're hilarious. Fishing for sluts on Instagram and disappointed when they don't want to live in CM with some old fk

 

She has plenty of that in Phuket plus lots on the side, a condo and a life. You're offering nothing to her 🤣

 

You can't meet quality people in bars or on the internet. It's a weird rule, but true

 

First of all, Phuket girl herself is gagging to come to CM. She's so keen that I have to push her back, as is evident from the attached Insta screenshot. She keeps sending me suggestions, ie Youtube videos of CM, things like tea plantations, suggesting I take her there. Asks questions constantly about CM. Clearly she's loving the idea to going to CM. So in Phuket Girl's case, this is completely untrue.

 

You seem to be projecting your own personal opinion of CM onto the girls, and I can tell you I have empirical evidence that completely contradicts this notion. Most of the girls are very excited to come to CM, I've only had it once that a girl on Insta was not a fan of CM, many others loved the idea of coming here.

 

Apart from the fact that your personal opinon of CM does not correspond with reality, after all CM is the second city in Thailand and attracts masses of young tourists from China, Korea, Japan, Thailand and pretty much all countries in the world, . It's not just retirees.  CM has some of the best bars in Thailand, better than some in Bangkok (I mean quality bars not lady bars), roof top bars and 5 star restaurants, the flower sea at Mon Jam etc. In fact just on the road to Mon Jam you'll have more things to do than in most places in Thailand, a Japanese Onsen, ATV tours, gun shooting, Elephant camps, cafes etc. The cafe culture in Chiang Mai is legendary and cut above any place in Thailand, including Bangkok. There's Go kart places, Zoo, some of the best markets in Thailand, Jing Jai, Coconut market., Walking street, Sunday market etc etc.

 

Most of the girls I targted are from the provinces, to them CM is kind of like a Nirvana, Phuket Girl is from Si Saket for instance. And they love the idea of going on a holiday in the north, the mountains, elephants etc. So no, I have strong empirical evidence that flatly contradicts your personal opinion.

 

It's also false that all the girls on Insta or dating apps are "sluts". Three of the girls I met were bona fide virgins, most had body counts well below the western average, some very low. You can meet quality people on the internet and in bars, I met my wife in a bar. These rules you speak of are false as well.

 

Now, if I were in Phuket or Ko Samui, would it make things easier, yes, because most of these young girls do love beach and party, so it would increase the total package attractiveness, sure. But I'd rather not get girls who just come to me because they like beach and party. If they come to CM, it's partly the holiday, but it's partly me after all, so it's not a pure holiday choice.

 

6 hours ago, emptypockets said:

I have no idea if she is. You can only be a virgin once.

It is hard to imagine a Catholic virgin talking to foreign men on an app.

 

You understand its' the waitress that was the virgin, not CM girl?

 

Virgins too have to start somehewere. To be honest from her Insta, full of crazy party photos, I kind of assumed she wasn't, but lif'e's a box of chocolates.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You understand its' the waitress that was the virgin, not CM girl?

 

Virgins too have to start somehewere. To be honest from her Insta, full of crazy party photos, I kind of assumed she wasn't, but lif'e's a box of chocolates.

I thought it was the Filipina.

21 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

I thought it was the Filipina.

 

Oh I see now, yes, yes, she was a virgin for sure. I deflowered her in a condo in BGC, I still see it before me. Man she loved sex, so into toys as well.

 

She had a very hard life. One of 10 children, her mother very neglectful, had to start work as a domestic helper from age 14, paid for her uni education herself that way. Hard worker all her life.

 

The problem is I've awoken the slut in her, she's so ripe now for anyonne she remotely qualifies, it's almost scary. 

 

I have a nother virgin in Nakohn Phanom, 22 years old, she came here for a week, and locked herself in my second bedroom, did not want to sleep together. But sttill texts me ever week saying she wants to come to CM. I'm keeping her in reserve, just in case.

18 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

 

Assuming you're the person on the right (my bad eyesight), that's a much better sales strategy than than the one you used with CM girl, if you don't mind my saying so 🙂. It comes across as challenging.

16 minutes ago, Lightyear said:

 

Assuming you're the person on the right (my bad eyesight), that's a much better sales strategy than than the one you used with CM girl, if you don't mind my saying so 🙂. It comes across as challenging.

 

Yes, and it's the typical conundrum, that we act the right way, with the girl we don't really love, whereas the one we really love, we act the wrong way.

 

I have no problem to push back on Phuket Girl. Even though she's breathtakingly beautiful, into sex a lot her honesty has revealed she loves money, she is promiscuous, she has teeth issues, so it's clear she'll be a massive headache despite her nice legs, pretty face and hot body. She's likely to be a lot of fun, because of her unusual character, but in terms of long term it's almost certain she wouldn't make the cut.

 

That's why I wanted to push back, because I'm still awaiting what BKK girl and CM girl might do, who could potentially make the cut, but to be honest would also love to meet Phuket Girl.

 

With CM girl I did act the wrong way at times. I didn't do any crazy mistakes as such. However, it was interesting that after our first date, when I took her nowhere but home, she agreed to a second date. But then when I really made sure to take her out to great places, after 2 times it was game over. Which was odd. I figured since she was used to the Conrad Hotel, I have to go top quality. But maybe she liked it more relax. I really don't know, but it was evident I tried very hard with her. Even at the end, when I offered a date Mon to Fri 10 to 1400, lunch or dinner on the weekend, that was a clear mistake, as I betrayed my high interest yet again. I have a real problem with poker face. It's hard to get that under control. Like I said, I didn't make any crazy mistakes, but in time my great interest became apparent to her. That was not good. I could fake for a while that my interest was not high, like when I just took her home, even on the second date for a bit. But by date 3, yes it must have been clear how much I liked CM Girl, in her mind. I made a big deal to say how beautiful she was when the waiter asked me how I was doing in Palette, I told her how much I liked the elegant way she dressed..I switched seats to be closer to her....all small mistakes but all add up.

16 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Clearly she's loving the idea to going to CM. So in Phuket Girl's case, this is completely untrue.

 

This is just for her Instagram feed. She has less than zero interest living there with you

 

The burning season which this girl from Issarn is well aware. Invite her back in say...May 😂

 

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

they love they idea of going on a holiday in the north, the mountains, elephants etc. So no, I have strong empirical evidence that flatly contradicts your personal opinion.

 

Wake up. It's cool season and Thais love to feel a chill. The girls from the provs would rather be anywhere but the provs. Elephant rides ...yeah, the Instagram narcissism...

 

20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It's also false that all the girls on Insta or dating apps are "sluts". Three of the girls I met were bona fide virgins, most had body counts well below the western average, some very low. You can meet quality people on the internet and in bars, I met my wife in a bar. These rules you speak of are false as well.

 

Yes, I use the term loosely. Narcissist little ladies in the peak of their beauty indulged by 100s of likes on the sm accounts. They'll all fck the question is on what terms?  The mere fact she's engaging with farang is already a red flag in Thai culture.

 

I stand by that rule and stand by that rule. It's not the good people don't go to bars and It's not a good people don't engage in social media on the internet. It's just this weird rule. First learned of it 40 years ago told to me by someone 2x my age. You'll never meet a quality woman in a bar. I would imagine that goes triple in Thailand.

 

I've seen it borne out a hundred times. You have a wife, but looking for a side chick and willing to spend all that dosh on her.

 

My opinion. You obviously have yours. 

 

27 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

t I'd rather not get girls who just come to me because they like beach and party. If they come to CM, it's partly the holiday, but it's partly me after all, so it's not a pure holiday choice.

 

This sounds mildly delusional and somewhat exploitive. I'm not judging It just sounds weird.

 

CM isn't a 10th of what you think it is lol. 

 

Unless you find a real keeper like apparently your wife WAS I would like to offer you another Golden Rule... You don't lose your girl here you just lose your turn.

 

I stay none of this out of any sort of malice. I wish You're the best hooking into that younger tail ... but it always comes with disappointment. He's young birds are at the top of their game. Men with fists of money are throwing it at them.

 

I recall living in Pattaya and constantly going back between the 20 and 30yos. Occasionally, when I needed a really good shag 40 wasn't out of the question. The younger they are the less engaging and responsive. Younger they were the <deleted>tier they were in the sack. I can only imagine it's doubly so in day and age of social media.

 

It seems your desires don't align with your reality. Most of all just have fun with it and go find another bird.

 

I want to meet you = I want you to pay to meet me. You've been here long enough to know that surely...

 

I have nothing else to offer. Best of luck. Ciao!

11 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said:

This is just for her Instagram feed. She has less than zero interest living there with you

 

She is highly interested to come to CM, in terms of living with me long term, of course she doesn't know yet, she hasn't seen my house, lifestyle or even me. It would be insane if she wanted to live with me long term already.

 

11 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said:

The girls from the provs would rather be anywhere but the provs.

 

Exactly, and I mostly qualify for these kinds of girls. I purposely do not target girls in Phuket, Ko Samui or Pattaya, as I am sure party girls that love the beach would not be for me. I'm not into beach.

 

11 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said:

Narcissist little ladies in the peak of their beauty indulged by 100s of likes on the sm accounts. They'll all fck the question is on what terms?  The mere fact she's engaging with farang is already a red flag in Thai culture.

 

Yes, I try my best to weed out the narcissists, you can see a lot from the photos, what they say, but of course I've had my share and it's not good.

 

11 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said:

First learned of it 40 years ago told to me by someone 2x my age. You'll never meet a quality woman in a bar. I would imagine that goes triple in Thailand.

 

Again, empirical evidence shows this "rule" is false, I met my wife in a pub, and she was a top quality 19 year old at the time, and proved she was over 20 years. CM girl too, looks like she might be.

 

By definition of course quality girls are the exception, the rarity, both online, in bars and elsewhere.

 

11 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said:

but it always comes with disappointment.

 

Yes, sadly this has proven true in SE Asia now. Given that I am 54 and not the man I was when I was 30 or even 34, we work from a different set of foundations. Our looks, our status, here in Thailand, at age 54 are not the same as it was 20 years ago. So our SMV is LOWER, we just have to accept that. Even if we looked like Chuando Tan, the mere fact of our age, already disqualifies us from being the dream man for most women. But most women does not mean all women. For many the age is irrelevant.

 

11 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said:

young birds are at the top of their game. Men with fists of money are throwing it at them.

 

This has become a real problem in Thailand. Thai girls have upped their game massively, thanks to social media info, and thanks to the influx of Russian, Chinese and other players, now Thai girls often have the choice Western women can only dream of, and yes, many of these men are wealthy. Extremely wealthy. I've met a few.

 

We have to accepted that our SMV is not higher than some of these young attractive girls, even if we have the face and a bit of money. It's just not. That may have been the issue with CM girl.

 

And yes, of course I also have sex with a 4, and indeed they are more engaging and more fun and better performers in sex often. But for long term, obviously you have to go with the highest quality you can get.

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

made a big deal to say how beautiful she was when the waiter asked me how I was doing i

 

With beautiful women you must tell them that very rarely and find different ways of saying it or even showing it.

 

For instance compliment them on their clothing, makeup or their eyes, a particular set of Instagram pics or pics that really show off her beauty - show her the pic a d describe why it's so appealing. Of course never mention her tits or ass ffs.

 

Another important angle in any relationship is HER. What are her favorite foods / that you two can eat together? Where has she traveled? 

 

You need to find common ground or you'll never build any sort of trust and relationship

 

But you can't be a simp, it's weak. You must be almost indifferent to her beauty and own the relationship like you deserve nothing less. Not only that, but if she's lazy in her appearance call her on that. Such as ... we're going out for sushi not to the food court... 

 

They here it from everyone, especially if they are around lots of horny farang men PLUS the social media BS.

 

They're wild little ponies and just need to keep your pimp hand strong

 

If you bag a young Thai woman that's just too attractive she'll never be yours. She may be an attention wh0re already plus she's in her prime making bank. Very common knowledge that you don't want to get serious with any Thai woman under 28.

 

Apologies I said I was out and here I am again.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Given that I am 54 and not the man I was when I was 30 or even 34, we work from a different set of foundations.

 

Indeed. It's good to acknowledge. Money is only half of it. You can't buy your way into a lasting relationship. SM competition aside, you don't need to be Chad 5000 you just need to be the cleanest dirty shirt in the laundry 👍

 

Oh, to return to those days of being a handsum man... My late teen, early 20s were epic. Southern California girlies in the late 70s early 80s. My Pattaya days in my 40s were another epic period I call my pre midlife crisis haha

 

I was fortunate and found a lovely woman now together 15 years. She's an absolute gem. If it were not for her I'd never have settled and was sworn to none and loyal to fun. I still have difficulty with roaming eyes. Shi+, Bangkok full of such hot women. 

 

Good luck - play on

 

If you are in BKK after NY and fancy a beer on lower Sukumvhit message me. We'll be South the month of December on holiday. 

1 hour ago, MarcusAurelius said:

With beautiful women you must tell them that very rarely and find different ways of saying it or even showing it.

 

For instance compliment them on their clothing, makeup or their eyes, a particular set of Instagram pics or pics that really show off her beauty - show her the pic a d describe why it's so appealing. Of course never mention her tits or ass ffs.

 

I know, it's just the waiter came, he asked me "How are you doing today Sir" and I was in the best restaurant in CM sitting opposite what I felt was the most beautiful woman in CM, so I wanted to be authentic, I just told him "I'm feeling really great, I'm sitting opposite the most beautiful woman in Chiang Mai".

 

She started laughing all shy, the waiter started laughing and said "No I agree with you Sir", I said "It's true isn't it".

 

I then also complimented her on her clothes, the way she dresses is really on point, elegant, without being pretentious, and she definitely like that "Really, oh thank you".

 

I think my real mistake was when I sat in the middle chair to be at a right angle to her, with the view of being closer. That was then a bit too much.

 

1 hour ago, MarcusAurelius said:

Another important angle in any relationship is HER. What are her favorite foods / that you two can eat together? Where has she traveled? 

 

I did cover all that. Unfortunately she loves Shabu and Hot pot, and that's not what I like, but she's easy, into Sushi, asked me to order food, and eats pretty much anything. At one point she suggested we go to KFC after, probably a joke, though she said she really liked it.

 

1 hour ago, MarcusAurelius said:

But you can't be a simp, it's weak. You must be almost indifferent to her beauty and own the relationship like you deserve nothing less. Not only that, but if she's lazy in her appearance call her on that. Such as ... we're going out for sushi not to the food court... 

 

To be honest, I took her to the best restaurants in CM that I knew, not just because on the first date I just took her home and didn't spend a Baht, but also because I wanted to compensate. She is way too beautiful, and she's 25, even with my face I'm not on her SMV, so I wanted to compensate by giving her an amazing experience. But I think she's USED to that, the Conrad, Cuisine de Garden, Italics, Vana sky bar, these are all in her Insta.

 

1 hour ago, MarcusAurelius said:

They're wild little ponies and just need to keep your pimp hand strong

 

Excellent advice and totally true.

 

1 hour ago, MarcusAurelius said:

If you bag a young Thai woman that's just too attractive she'll never be yours. She may be an attention wh0re already plus she's in her prime making bank. Very common knowledge that you don't want to get serious with any Thai woman under 28.

 

Sadly, I'm starting to think that's true. At 29 is when they start to think about settling down. At 25/26 the urge to "explore options" is massive and the prime motivator.

 

56 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said:

Money is only half of it. You can't buy your way into a lasting relationship

 

Absolutely right. Women don't actually go for money alone, looks alone or even status alone. They care about how the guy behaves with her, how she feels with you. So if you don't make any big mistakes, you could be in.

 

56 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said:

I was fortunate and found a lovely woman now together 15 years. She's an absolute gem. If it were not for her I'd never have settled and was sworn to none and loyal to fun. I still have difficulty with roaming eyes. Shi+, Bangkok full of such hot women. 

 

 

Very happy it worked out this way for you. That's what I want, to find my person here, so I'm sure I'll get there eventually. How old were you when you met her, 50 right? I might be on the last train.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

I know, it's just the waiter came, he asked me "How are you doing today Sir" and I was in the best restaurant in CM sitting opposite what I felt was the most beautiful woman in CM, so I wanted to be authentic, I just told him "I'm feeling really great, I'm sitting opposite the most beautiful woman in Chiang Mai".

 

She started laughing all shy, the waiter started laughing and said "No I agree with you Sir", I said "It's true isn't it".

 

I then also complimented her on her clothes, the way she dresses is really on point, elegant, without being pretentious, and she definitely like that "Really, oh thank you".

 

I think my real mistake was when I sat in the middle chair to be at a right angle to her, with the view of being closer. That was then a bit too much.

 

 

I did cover all that. Unfortunately she loves Shabu and Hot pot, and that's not what I like, but she's easy, into Sushi, asked me to order food, and eats pretty much anything. At one point she suggested we go to KFC after, probably a joke, though she said she really liked it.

 

 

To be honest, I took her to the best restaurants in CM that I knew, not just because on the first date I just took her home and didn't spend a Baht, but also because I wanted to compensate. She is way too beautiful, and she's 25, even with my face I'm not on her SMV, so I wanted to compensate by giving her an amazing experience. But I think she's USED to that, the Conrad, Cuisine de Garden, Italics, Vana sky bar, these are all in her Insta.

 

 

Excellent advice and totally true.

 

 

Sadly, I'm starting to think that's true. At 29 is when they start to think about settling down. At 25/26 the urge to "explore options" is massive and the prime motivator.

 

 

Absolutely right. Women don't actually go for money alone, looks alone or even status alone. They care about how the guy behaves with her, how she feels with you. So if you don't make any big mistakes, you could be in.

 

 

Very happy it worked out this way for you. That's what I want, to find my person here, so I'm sure I'll get there eventually. How old were you when you met her, 50 right? I might be on the last train.

 

Sounds like it's all well in hand

 

The compliment at the table was perfect +1

 

Hook them, charm offensive and ignore them. Baddies like to do a bit of hunting themselves.

 

Also denying them something that theyb Believe should rightly theirs drive some crazy. It's kind of human nature as well I guess 

 

You seem to have everything sorted but what I'd recommend is you mix up the restaurants. See the reaction. So you can start with a great wine and then a cheap one like that. You also don't want to set any sort of expectation. Of course with some of these women it's possible they As we discussed are used to have a man just throw buckets of money at them. This will be especially true if they are tourists and just here on holiday and she's accessing that 

 

All good 👍👍

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Given that I am 54

There's an old adage that says the ideal age of a girl is half the man's age, plus seven years.... 

 

Girls in their twenties are lovely to behold, but hard to retain for older men, unless you're seriously rich.

38 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said:

 

Sounds like it's all well in hand

 

The compliment at the table was perfect +1

 

Hook them, charm offensive and ignore them. Baddies like to do a bit of hunting themselves.

 

Also denying them something that theyb Believe should rightly theirs drive some crazy. It's kind of human nature as well I guess 

 

You seem to have everything sorted but what I'd recommend is you mix up the restaurants. See the reaction. So you can start with a great wine and then a cheap one like that. You also don't want to set any sort of expectation. Of course with some of these women it's possible they As we discussed are used to have a man just throw buckets of money at them. This will be especially true if they are tourists and just here on holiday and she's accessing that 

 

All good 👍👍

 

Look what she just posted on her Insta: I don't think this is about me, as I asked her on date 4 and was clear, "Just let me know" and she never replied. Unless she wanted me to follow up. More likely she is being played by an experienced player who told her "Let's see where it goes".

 

Ordinarily I would not reply, as it's reactive, and she may just be playing, but I am considering replying something like "I would love to see you again so we can get serious" just as a last Hail Mary, as she may be having trouble with the other guy. Worth it, or better to wait it out and see if she comes back herself?

 

 

24 minutes ago, Lightyear said:

There's an old adage that says the ideal age of a girl is half the man's age, plus seven years.... 

 

Girls in their twenties are lovely to behold, but hard to retain for older men, unless you're seriously rich.

 

I think 29 to 30 would be my absolute max. Older, only for fun times. 

 

 

20 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Good move. When you see a red flag like that, best to act immediately.

 

From now, every time a girl comes in my house and has a bag, I check her bag. Same on the way out. Like at the airport.

wow,i really think yu  have some very serious problems.  You should seek help  from a specialist.

41 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

wow,i really think yu  have some very serious problems.  You should seek help  from a specialist.

 

Better you do that. I have 5 girls to support, I can't waste money on such trivialities.

51 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Better you do that. I have 5 girls to support, I can't waste money on such trivialities.

Great answer!!

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Look what she just posted on her Insta: I don't think this is about me, as I asked her on date 4 and was clear, "Just let me know" and she never replied. Unless she wanted me to follow up. More likely she is being played by an experienced player who told her "Let's see where it goes".

 

Ordinarily I would not reply, as it's reactive, and she may just be playing, but I am considering replying something like "I would love to see you again so we can get serious" just as a last Hail Mary, as she may be having trouble with the other guy. Worth it, or better to wait it out and see if she comes back herself?

 

 

 

She writes like a Filipina. Sir... 

 

Weird. She wants and doesn't want a relationship. 

 

You've obviously got a nut on for her, but I'd pass. I think she's looking for money. Operating under the belief that foreigners are just here a short time even if it's a few years and she's going to extract the maximum she can from that individual for those years. I believe I recall you telling us she wasn't interested in marriage?

 

Just me... I'd keep touch without her. Send a nice message a few times a month. Go to Phuket once or twice if she'll join you. Say you're going down to enjoy the cool season, water.

 

You don't have to kill her off, just put her on the back burner. You have nothing to lose by keeping The line of communication open. Guys with a lot of money go through those chicks really quickly. She could find herself without a big spender any old day. While there are plenty of guys that will toss short time money at her while on holiday or a fling. Finding someone that's there for her and ridiculous financial requirements is a different story. She's got to gel with their vibe as well. 

13 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said:

 

She writes like a Filipina. Sir... 

 

Weird. She wants and doesn't want a relationship. 

 

You've obviously got a nut on for her, but I'd pass. I think she's looking for money. Operating under the belief that foreigners are just here a short time even if it's a few years and she's going to extract the maximum she can from that individual for those years. I believe I recall you telling us she wasn't interested in marriage?

 

Just me... I'd keep touch without her. Send a nice message a few times a month. Go to Phuket once or twice if she'll join you. Say you're going down to enjoy the cool season, water.

 

You don't have to kill her off, just put her on the back burner. You have nothing to lose by keeping The line of communication open. Guys with a lot of money go through those chicks really quickly. She could find herself without a big spender any old day. While there are plenty of guys that will toss short time money at her while on holiday or a fling. Finding someone that's there for her and ridiculous financial requirements is a different story. She's got to gel with their vibe as well. 

 

Ok, we're entering soap opera territory now for sure.

 

So I did write to her, to tell her I was serious about her, asking to meet her tomorrow. She disclosed she is going to hospital tomorrow to admit her mother. Turns out the mother has fourth stage kidney failure, and she has to take care of her in hospital. I came on super strong but no idea how this will play out.

 

Whilst the good thing is that contact has been re-established, this serious family crisis will now mean she will be out of town for a long time, maybe months.

 

 

 

 

 

The trip she took would appear to be related to her mother's kidney failure.

 

That is why she did not want to disclose too much about this trip, it was an unpleasant family emergency. Not a guy.

 

Bittersweet. Good to know it's probably not another guy, but on the other hand she could be away a long time nursing her sick mother.

 

Maybe I should drive to whatever hospital she will be at? You can't prove you're more serious than that.. But obviously only after she gave the green light.

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Ok, we're entering soap opera territory now for sure.

 

So I did write to her, to tell her I was serious about her, asking to meet her tomorrow. She disclosed she is going to hospital tomorrow to admit her mother. Turns out the mother has fourth stage kidney failure, and she has to take care of her in hospital. I came on super strong but no idea how this will play out.

 

Whilst the good thing is that contact has been re-established, this serious family crisis will now mean she will be out of town for a long time, maybe months.

 

 

 

 

 

Good grief, aren’t you desperate. You’re scaring her with all that drooling.

Just now, novacova said:

Good grief, aren’t you desperate. You’re scaring her with all that drooling.

 

Maybe I did come on too strong. But she'll be away for weeks, possibly months now, nursing a dying a relative. 

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

But she'll be away for weeks, possibly months now

Yeah right, so she says…