The SPEED with which she agreed to go on a date definitely points to her being an escort. It was way too fast. No questions. Nothing. Just agreed.

Richard, for you: What do you think?

 

1. THINK - Her Iphone 17 Pro Max! Supposedly it ended with the Taiwanese ex over a year ago, but she has the most expensive Iphone? Without a job? That just came out.

 

2.  She refused to tell me her real Thai name - An abundance of caution.

 

3. The cold business -like texting.

 

4. THIS IS WHY she just accepted my date request! She thought I'm a potential client! So why check Insta photos? No need!

 

5. The sudden change of plans, a client hired her to go on a trip.

 

6. Her almost pro like acting of chemistry - opening cans, serving food - it was way above normal.

 

7 ,.Her nose - it's aquiline, European, it is most certainly NOT chinese, it's more a nose a Czech woman might have. The whole story of a Yunnan - Tibet parent couple - probably made up.

 

8. Her change of name on Insta account, so police don't track her?

 

9. Some of her expensive trips on her Insta are dated AFTER the rel with the Taiwanese ex supposedly ended.

 

10. This whole story of her losing her phone and being unable to contact her ex, it sounded totally made up. There never was a Taiwanese ex! All lies. 

 

11. Her expensive and elegant wardrobe. So expensive! That's why she doesn't wear high heels, only crocs! So she doesn't look like a hooker!#

 

12. That's why there are no sexy pics, no thirst traps whatsoever on her Insta, totally not normal, but an escort would not want to suggest she's a hooker!

 

13. The massive emphasis on men paying her money! She's an Escort! Of course they want money from guys!!!

 

Just one problem with the escort theory. If you recall I took her home on our first date, and did not spend a dime. It was obvious I was not a client. So why did she come to date 2 and 3?

 

Oh my GOD  - She asked me during date one, "Have you ever gone to a ladies bar"? An odd question. But if she's an escort it makes perfect sense to ask this!

 

Is she an escort or not?

 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

We need Richard on this. 

 

Where is he?

 

My work has been done - I'm not needed any more - you are seeing things for the way they are... 

 

She's been playing you thats all... 

 

She fits in there somewhere on the spectrum between 'outright hooker and someone who's looking for something better'.... 

 

...   In this case she seems to be an 'occupational farang hunter'...   a girl who's just looking for the best option around at the time and it doesn't matter who it is, so long as they are not disgusting, have some money they they'll spend on her'...   Things can develop into a relationship, but she'll still keep an eye open or another 'next best thing'....    almost mercenary - with good acting.

54 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

The Filipina virgin is back in the fold now.

 

Oh no - another 50 pages before you find out this one's also more familiar with the male appendage than Armitage Shanks  ???

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

My work has been done - I'm not needed any more - you are seeing things for the way they are... 

 

She's been playing you thats all... 

 

She fits in there somewhere on the spectrum between 'outright hooker and someone who's looking for something better'.... 

 

...   In this case she seems to be an 'occupational farang hunter'...   a girl who's just looking for the best option around at the time and it doesn't matter who it is, so long as they are not disgusting, have some money they they'll spend on her'...   Things can develop into a relationship, but she'll still keep an eye open or another 'next best thing'....    almost mercenary - with good acting.

 

That's all you got?

 

You had a whole list of points! No view on those at all???

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Richard, for you: What do you think?

 

1. THINK - Her Iphone 17 Pro Max! Supposedly it ended with the Taiwanese ex over a year ago, but she has the most expensive Iphone? Without a job? That just came out.

 

Very doubtful she bought it herself - one of her 'sponsors' would have paid for it.

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

2.  She refused to tell me her real Thai name - An abundance of caution.

 

100% Red Flag

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

3. The cold business -like texting.

 

Perfectly normal with the younger generation.

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

4. THIS IS WHY she just accepted my date request! She thought I'm a potential client! So why check Insta photos? No need!

 

Correct - you were just another potential customer - why say no until she learns more.

 

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

5. The sudden change of plans, a client hired her to go on a trip.

 

Yes, and he was more 'promising' than you.

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

6. Her almost pro like acting of chemistry - opening cans, serving food - it was way above normal.

 

A learned act - the GFE.

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

7 ,.Her nose - it's aquiline, European, it is most certainly NOT chinese, it's more a nose a Czech woman might have. The whole story of a Yunnan - Tibet parent couple - probably made up.

 

Difficult to know - could be surgery (many many have a nose job these days...  eyes and norks too).

 

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

8. Her change of name on Insta account, so police don't track her?

 

Nothing to do with Police - just to keep previous followers (customers) from tracking her so easily.

 

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

9. Some of her expensive trips on her Insta are dated AFTER the rel with the Taiwanese ex supposedly ended.

 

Paid for by her sponsors to accompany them on a trip / get-away - GFE again.

 

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

10. This whole story of her losing her phone and being unable to contact her ex, it sounded totally made up. There never was a Taiwanese ex! All lies. 

 

Possibly - maybe one of them was Taiwanese - mix the lies in with some truth, its more believable. 

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

11. Her expensive and elegant wardrobe. So expensive! That's why she doesn't wear high heels, only crocs! So she doesn't look like a hooker!

 

Paid for by sponsors - & wears crocs because she's low class - probably wears PJ's to the breakfast buffet & thinks its cute too !! 

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

12. That's why there are no sexy pics, no thirst traps whatsoever on her Insta, totally not normal, but an escort would not want to suggest she's a hooker!

 

Neither care - they just want the bottom line - Some want to 'show' something so they attract the rich ones, but don't show too much because they want to avoid the poor ones.

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

13. The massive emphasis on men paying her money! She's an Escort! Of course they want money from guys!!!

 

Correct.

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Just one problem with the escort theory. If you recall I took her home on our first date, and did not spend a dime. It was obvious I was not a client. So why did she come to date 2 and 3?

 

Playing a short game - a few dates and see where it goes.

 

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Oh my GOD  - She asked me during date one, "Have you ever gone to a ladies bar"? An odd question. But if she's an escort it makes perfect sense to ask this!

 

Gauging your 'openness' - if you said "of course" then she knows what speed she can 'work at'... 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Is she an escort or not?

 

Seems very much so - providing the GFE (Girlfriend Experience) and going on trips etc....  probably has a few regulars and will go completely off radar when they are around.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

That's all you got?

 

You had a whole list of points! No view on those at all???

 

Wow - you are edgy Cameroni - take a valium !

22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

100% Red Flag

 

 

Definitely not normal. I asked Phuket girl. She said it right away and said it's not normal to hide it for Thais.

 

22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Perfectly normal with the younger generation.

 

No, not like this. This was like dealing with a dental receptionist over text. Two words. Business like. And she always replies! Even when supposedly it's done. She can't remember the story point she'd be at, cause of her 10 or 20 clients.

 

22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Difficult to know - could be surgery (many many have a nose job these days...  eyes and norks too).

 

But nobody has surgery to get an Italian nose! That nose is aquiline, Italian almost. No Han Chinese or Tibetans I ever saw have that nose. And Yunnan people are rough and coarse. As are Tibetans. This girl is white and refined, delicate like a porcelain doll.

 

22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Nothing to do with Police - just to keep previous followers (customers) from tracking her so easily.

 

Then why did she ask me to pick her up at her house? Now I know where she lives? If she's paranoid about not being tracked?

 

 

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

17 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Nothing to do with Police - just to keep previous followers (customers) from tracking her so easily.

 

Then why did she ask me to pick her up at her house? Now I know where she lives? If she's paranoid about not being tracked?

 

Cos it wasn't her house....

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Cos it wasn't her house....

 

No, it's definitely her house. I picked her up there each time. And late at night when I delivered the phone case she came out in a robe, without make up.

 

And said "I hope mother didn't see that".

 

Got to be her house.

Celsius? What do you think?

 

Is she an escort or not?

Another thing that doesn't make sense: Supposedly her mother is dying. But she's going on holidays? Trips to Pino Latte? Out getting drunk? Having a grand time?

 

Maybe this kidney story was just a sob story to see if you'd voluntarily offer money for the treatment?

 

How can someone supposedly looking after a mother go out constantly partying?

Those were her exact words "I have to nurse mother".

 

So if you have nurse her, how are you going out for days to Pino latte? Out drinking and getting drunk on a Wednesday night?

 

This makes no sense.

 

But if you think about it, it's a perfect excuse not to meet. "Oh I can't go, I have to nurse mother"....if she's away on a trip with a client.

 

It's genius!

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Cos it wasn't her house....

 

No, it's definitely her house. I picked her up there each time. And late at night when I delivered the phone case she came out in a robe, without make up.

 

And said "I hope mother didn't see that".

 

Got to be her house.

 

Doubtful is a) her house b) a house she rents c) her family house....

 

Most likely - a friends house she's staying at - its certainly doubtful that its somewhere she will be at long term.

47 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Another thing that doesn't make sense: Supposedly her mother is dying. But she's going on holidays? Trips to Pino Latte? Out getting drunk? Having a grand time?

 

Maybe this kidney story was just a sob story to see if you'd voluntarily offer money for the treatment?

 

How can someone supposedly looking after a mother go out constantly partying?

 

Well done - you are getting there... 

 

The suck buffalo is old hat... 

33 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Those were her exact words "I have to nurse mother".

 

So if you have nurse her, how are you going out for days to Pino latte? Out drinking and getting drunk on a Wednesday night?

 

Because she doesn't have to 'nurse mother'... 

 

33 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

This makes no sense.

 

It makes perfect sense - just use 'sick mother as an excuse'... 

 

 

33 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

But if you think about it, it's a perfect excuse not to meet. "Oh I can't go, I have to nurse mother"....if she's away on a trip with a client.

 

It's genius!

 

Its not genius - the excuse contains just a thin enough shred of plausibility for those who want to believe her so badly that they'll tag on to any shred of plausibility and in doing so pull the wool over their own eyes....

 

 

Well you are living in this world and everything is possible.

Some things showed to you, but you had the pink glasses on, maybe.

SHe gave you a sort short of "boyfriend experience", maybe. Killing some time.

You still dont know for sure, but (probably) could.

However costed you not that much. You can still continue and see.

 

I saw a docu about British women. They are labelled in a group, but cant recall the name, they gave to those kind of women. They had contact with filthy rich online.

Only some contact just online, the guy never met her before.

The FR then invited her to come to USA, in this case. She got a bc flying ticket, limo waiting in USA, 5 star hotel to stay and they only met once when he was handing her over a cc for shopping !!

They never met again and after some days, she was going back again ! I felt down from my chair.

No dining , no brunch or whatever. Really, I couldnt believe it, but it showed on the docu!   

An fr just giving away some money, nothing else. And she collected.

Just one woman they followed, but there were many more, as I mentioned before.

 

If you can eliminate all sort of possibilities, then the most impossible could be true.

Bummer, but there you go.

Once asked you if you saw the video from Thai girl in BK, page 32. I put it on.

You are still in a life phase, you might care. I was there at  that time as well and started again relation.

Now im in a phase, I dont give a rats a** anymore. Looking back in time? 

I could give all younger men the advise to never at least marry, Is is not worth while.

relation? Break it down by first crack. Talking never helps and it only gets worse.

 BUT all ages give different thoughts and actions. If I would have known before, maybe then change life way.

Have sluts and nothing else.

Here she is ! Ah, not, but wanted to post this pic

21 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Doubtful is a) her house b) a house she rents c) her family house....

 

Most likely - a friends house she's staying at - its certainly doubtful that its somewhere she will be at long term.

 

Her latest pics on Insta, she's hopping around on a trampoline on some amusement arcade. This client she is with sure knows how to show her a good time.

 

A very busy time for her...lol.

19 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Here she is ! Ah, not, but wanted to post this pic

 

Not far off, but she's a little better looking than that. More real.

19 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

ou still dont know for sure, but (probably) could.

 

That's the annoying part. You still do not know for sure. There's no real proof. How can you prove someone works as an escort? Only if they tell you!

 

This ruse of using the fake Instagram account will most likely fail, as she's too smart, she knows it's illegal in Thailand and would not write it down. Besides the fake account is obviously fake, only 4 posts. 3 followers.

 

So, the only option left is to meet her again and say "Hey, it's totally fine, your'e an escort arent' you? I want to book you for one day. What is your rate?" If she IS an escort, she'll want the cash and will tell you surely. I just got to meet her again.

What I don't get, how can she put these Conrad Hotel and luxury resort and restaurant pics, from HK, Taiwan, Beijing, Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, KL, Singapore, Ko Samui on her Insta? Surely all her family and friends would ask her, how do you pay for that?

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

The way she replies. There is no humanity. Like a robot. Like you're one of a 100 guys she's replying to. "Okay ka". Any normal woman would have written "Sorry for the late reply, a bit tired still but maybe later this week" Or something like this. But no, it's always 2 or 3 word replies. Except for the phone case request.

 

I think she really is an escort. But no proof.

Just for the record, what is any "normal woman"? You're dealing with a different language, religion and culture. Most likely, you're dealing with an uneducated woman who understands the power of her attraction. She is high on the power she has over men. Maybe you need to ply your trade in your home country, where everyone seems "normal" to you and behaves as you expect. At 54, unless you are at least a multi-millionaire, you're not coming anywhere near a 25-year-old in your home country.

 

7 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

Just for the record, what is any "normal woman"? You're dealing with a different language, religion and culture. Most likely, you're dealing with an uneducated woman who understands the power of her attraction. She is high on the power she has over men. Maybe you need to ply your trade in your home country, where everyone seems "normal" to you and behaves as you expect. At 54, unless you are at least a multi-millionaire, you're not coming anywhere near a 25-year-old in your home country.

 

 

Also the sky is blue.

 

Thanks.

 

How is this helping in the slightest? Or you just enjoy being an a$$hole?

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Also the sky is blue.

 

Thanks.

Not your skies. You're getting old and in denial. Don't worry, it will only get harder from here.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

That's the annoying part. You still do not know for sure. There's no real proof. How can you prove someone works as an escort? Only if they tell you!

 

This ruse of using the fake Instagram account will most likely fail, as she's too smart, she knows it's illegal in Thailand and would not write it down. Besides the fake account is obviously fake, only 4 posts. 3 followers.

 

So, the only option left is to meet her again and say "Hey, it's totally fine, your'e an escort arent' you? I want to book you for one day. What is your rate?" If she IS an escort, she'll want the cash and will tell you surely. I just got to meet her again.

You can do so, but if you are wrong then it could be the end. Then you insulted her.

Then you better could do an "attack" on her with kissing and holding and say "baby , I want to make love with you"

Or something like that. Still innocent and not real brute. You go from feelings and you already shaved your jewels.

Maybe then her "profession" kicks in and she says "ok, pay me 5000 baht" or not?

Then you can ask further, then you know and no insults if not.

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Also the sky is blue.

 

Thanks.

 

How is this helping in the slightest? Or you just enjoy being an a$$hole?

Oh, you just edited your post to add some profanity. Thanks! I'm not trying to help you, but point out how pathetic you are. I enjoyed pointing that out. 

3 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

but if you are wrong then it could be the end. Then you insulted her.

 

Yes, that would be the ultimate faux pas, to imply she's a prostitute.

 

But then, it's not like there's a grand future now.

 

She's in some climbing amusement arcade now, with some guy paying for it no doubt.

 

3 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Then you better could do an "attack" on her with kissing and holding and say "baby , I want to make love with you"

Or something like that. Still innocent and not real brute. You go from feelings and you already shaved your jewels.

Maybe then her "profession" kicks in and she says "ok, pay me 5000 baht" or not?

Then you can ask further, then you know and no insults if not.

 

Actually that's not a bad idea! Good thinking.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, that would be the ultimate faux pas, to imply she's a prostitute.

 

But then, it's not like there's a grand future now.

 

She's in some climbing amusement arcade now, with some guy paying for it no doubt.

 

 

Actually that's not a bad idea! Good thinking.

Of course, if personal contact now is already low, you could do it with phone.

"BAby I miss you, was so enjoyed to see you again but circumstances broke us up.

I want to feel your sexy body and kiss you and make love with you" 

Playing stupid and teasing, or not. You will see. What you got to loose?

Now it is also stupid situation.

Btw I can find on internet escort buro's in Thailand, but ok she might keep it more hidden.

8 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Of course, if personal contact now is already low, you could do it with phone.

"BAby I miss you, was so enjoyed to see you again but circumstances broke us up.

I want to feel your sexy body and kiss you and make love with you" 

Playing stupid and teasing, or not. You will see. What you got to loose?

Now it is also stupid situation.

Btw I can find on internet escort buro's in Thailand, but ok she might keep it more hidden.

 

That's an option, not a bad idea. If I can't meet  her in person anymore.

 

But let's see. 

 

Yes, who knows if she uses an agency or does it all herself? Could be either.