1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

There is no other option but to fly in Phuket girl.

 

CM girl wont' write tomorrow about meeting on her birthday on Friday or Saturday. I can feel it in my bones.

 

The girl is not really interested. Or else she would have written at least "thank you" for the umbrella, even if she was disappointed it was just an umbrella.

 

I must say I thought she had perfect manners, but this lack of formality is disappointing.

Maybe she didnt learn? Parents teach you saying thank you, they make you aware when or how.

As I see a line in that. All the things you did, didnt make her say thank you.

I don't know what's the matter with you guys. i diden't visit Thailand for the temples nor the tropical temperatures in combination with 95% air humidity. I came for the "shameless girls".

Rats! The "shameless girls" have gotten too expensive.

24 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Maybe she didnt learn? Parents teach you saying thank you, they make you aware when or how.

As I see a line in that. All the things you did, didnt make her say thank you.

 

I suppose when others take her on trips to Pino Latte, what I do is small fry by  comparison.

6 minutes ago, swissie said:

The "shameless girls" have gotten too expensive.

 

Ain't that the truth.

Another thing to consider is miscommunication. Differences in Western and Asian communication styles often lead to varying interpretations of what is said.

 

 

31 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Another thing to consider is miscommunication. Differences in Western and Asian communication styles often lead to varying interpretations of what is said.

 

 

 

Don't worry, I have written a poem that will clarify my deep attraction and should avoid any miscommuniation issues. It is wirtten in a simple style, so non-native speakers can appreciate it.

 

 

Phuket Girl lost her patience. She's coming tomorrow, no matter what.

 

 

Very strange, Phuket Girl doesn't want me to book her flight for her, she says she'll take care of it. Looks like she has her own money.

 

I agreed, I as don't think CM girl will agree for anything for her birthday tomorrow. Still have not had any text from her about it.

 

If CM girl does unexepctedly confirm Fri, Sat or Sun then it'll be Screwball comedy time.

 

Of course Phuket Girl had to pick CM gir's bithrday to come. 

I spoke to the wife of a Thai friend about CM girl. 

 

She said asking me to buy a phone case out of the blue is not normal after 3 weeks. 

 

That should give me my answer. 

 

She's probably right. 

 

I need to face that I may have been wrong about CM girl. 

 

Richard is probably right, she went on 4 dates out of financial interest. 

I followed up with CM girl. Asking her what time is good for her on Friday, Saturday or Sunday. 

 

She put a heart emoji and did not reply a single word. 

 

Probably waiting for Plan A to confirm. 

 

I suppose it's too early to know if she's only interested in money or me. 

 

But the signs are not good. 

Whilst I do love her heart emojis, in this case I don't think heart emojis are gonna cut it.

 

I asked a clear question that she let me know when she is avialable. She did not bother to send a word.

 

I think this is very bad news. I may drop off flowers for her birthday tomorrow morning. But I am glad Phuket girl decided to come tomorrow. It seems it is time to write a new chapter, as CM girl does not want to dance with me.

 

 

 

 

 

today i wonder what the bigger sin is

is it your lying?
or my hopeless belief in words i know aren't true?

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

my hopeless belief in words i know aren't true?

No it’s something far worse. Maybe it’s the inability to move on and realize that there’s literally billions of other women out there. This kind of fixation definitely isn’t healthy.

7 minutes ago, khunJam said:

No it’s something far worse. Maybe it’s the inability to move on and realize that there’s literally billions of other women out there. This kind of fixation definitely isn’t healthy.

 

I have arranged with Phuket girl that she arrives here tomorrow. I will move on. But this experience with CM girl, it had me hoping for something, believing in a person that was not real.

 

She is not from a well off family, her father is an advocado farmer. She tasted luxury and is pursuing it all costs. It took a while to see and understand the full picture. To understand I was not plan A, but plan C or D or E.

 

She was so plausible. If you had met her on date 2 or date 3 you would have believed her too. I'm not to blame for pausing with her.

 

Actually, she never lied to me. She never made promises to me of any kind. She just showed up. Talked about love, put her hand in mine, laughed and joked with me. She seduced me, but she never lied to me. Apart from that date which never was, there was no errand of course. 

13 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Yes, she spoke to the mother in front of me.

 

She was a little embarassed about it. No idea why she even took the call. 

 

I suppose if the mother is so sick, you always take the call as it could be the last. She never moved out of ear-shot ever. Also texted in front of me without hiding it.

 

Those are good indicators... 

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Those are good indicators... 

 

Yes, but I sent two long texts asking her to say if she is free for lunch or dinner on Friday, if not on Saturday or Sunday. And all she did was send me two heart emojis. Not a word.

 

This is not good.

since lies are sweet
and the truth is bitter
i'm not surprised
i liked you better

Just now, Cameroni said:

Yes, but I sent two long texts asking her to say if she is free for lunch or dinner on Friday, if not on Saturday or Sunday. And all she did was send me two heart emojis. Not a word.

 

This is not good.

 

Not a good indicator - she's keeping options open. 

 

Defo sounds like a 'friend zone'...  well, not even that really...    Is this the 'Thai' way of saying 'no' without actually saying 'no' ???

 

 

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Not a good indicator - she's keeping options open. 

 

Defo sounds like a 'friend zone'...  well, not even that really...    Is this the 'Thai' way of saying 'no' without actually saying 'no' ???

 

 

 

That is what I am wondering. But most likely she has four or five options for her birthday, and is waiting for her favourite option to confirm.

 

I'm an also-ran.

My Thai friend has a really classy Thai wife, who speaks good English.

 

She said it is not normal in Thailand for a girl to date more than one guy, but that "very popular" girls may do that, because of their number of options.

 

She's right of course. That's exactly what's happening here. Nobody more popular than her. She's got 8 or 9 fires burning most likely.

18 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

since lies are sweet
and the truth is bitter
i'm not surprised
i liked you better

 

Or

 

I found a strange delight

In the false warmth you gave,

For the honesty I feared too much,

Yet still, my heart misbehaved.

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

My Thai friend has a really classy Thai wife, who speaks good English.

 

She said it is not normal in Thailand for a girl to date more than one guy, but that "very popular" girls may do that, because of their number of options.

 

She's right of course. That's exactly what's happening here. Nobody more popular than her. She's got 8 or 9 fires burning most likely.

 

There 'are no patterns'....   This idea that Thai girls do this, don't do that, good girls do this, don't do that etc... is completely flawed - everyone is individual... 

 

For example: you mentioned her being a devout Christian as if that makes her more 'chaste' - consider the Philippines... and then realise 'being devout' anything doesn't really mean anything... 

 

So..  its not normal for a Thai girl to date more than one guy... its not abnormal either - it depends on the individual who wants to keep their options open or not. 

 

This girl - if she is looking for a long term relationship - then its not with any of her 'existing' suitors - otherwise she'd be 'locked down already'... 

 

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

There 'are no patterns'....   This idea that Thai girls do this, don't do that, good girls do this, don't do that etc... is completely flawed - everyone is individual... 

 

For example: you mentioned her being a devout Christian as if that makes her more 'chaste' - consider the Philippines... and then realise 'being devout' anything doesn't really mean anything... 

 

So..  its not normal for a Thai girl to date more than one guy... its not abnormal either - it depends on the individual who wants to keep their options open or not. 

 

This girl - if she is looking for a long term relationship - then its not with any of her 'existing' suitors - otherwise she'd be 'locked down already'... 

 

 

I've always been in awe of your incisive brain, like all of us, and you're right as always, but more than that you have put your finger on one crucial truth: A woman who has 8 or 9 suitors is NOT happy with anyone of them. Or else she would have just one.

 

Very true.

her smile glowing like a moonlight in the sky,
soft as feather, brighter than a star.
my eyes can't process how beautiful
all i can do is admire it

i asked the moon, “why do I feel this way?
why do the stars all dim everytime i saw her?”
it sighed, “because her light outshines the night
she’s not just beauty, she’s the reason why.”

“i wish i were beside her,” i sighed to the moon.
“what would you do?” it asked, softening its glow.
my heart beating fast, “just let her know
she’s my dream, and i want it to be true.”

So she just published this photo collage. She is in Pattaya. Some guy flew her out to Pattaya for the "fireworks festival".

 

I can't compete with that. I didn't even know there was a "fireworks festival".

 

Mystery over I guess. She made her choice. No wonder she didn't reply with any words, she's busy with another.

 

 

26 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

So she just published this photo collage. She is in Pattaya. Some guy flew her out to Pattaya for the "fireworks festival".

 

I can't compete with that. I didn't even know there was a "fireworks festival".

 

Mystery over I guess. She made her choice. No wonder she didn't reply with any words, she's busy with another.

 

 

You chance may still come

2 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

You chance may still come

 

I texted her to ask if she's in Pattaya. If she's with a guy, she should be honest about it at least.

 

I don't know what to do now, if I even send her a birthday greeting tomorrow, whilst she's getting banged by some other guy? 

 

No need for flowers tomorrow as she won't be here I guess.

She replied. "Yes".

 

She's in Pattaya.

 

I asked her to confirm if she was flown there by a guy and is staying in a hotel with a man.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

She replied. "Yes".

 

She's in Pattaya.

 

I asked her to confirm if she was flown there by a guy and is staying in a hotel with a man.

Not great news, but not terrible news either. Now you know her true character. You know she's up for it, Christian or not, so you need to modify your end goal. If you think she's hot, plan on banging her and forget that she is the potential love of your life.

Or write her off and get on with life. Phuket girl is coming. Have some fun.

Bill Burr put it so succinctly regarding break ups. He said give it three days then yank one out. Clears the mind. Problem solved.

2 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Now you know her true character. You know she's up for it, Christian or not, so you need to modify your end goal. If you think she's hot, plan on banging her and forget that she is the potential love of your life.

 

Yes, she could be a friend with benefits now, at best.

 

Obviously, I am not going to hang some foolish love dreams on her now, that would be completely one-sided, and nobody wants a one-sided affair.

 

I'm so glad Phuket girl is coming tomorrow. If not, it could have been a rough 3 days.