19 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Someone every Village must have

Probably a village is missing him 🤣

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

This graph tells that exact story:

 

How long can a country continue to import over half a $Trillion a year more than it exports?

 

One graph can never tell a complex story.

 

And yours is one of the most dishonest ones possible, missing "Services".

 

This is why the world laughs about the dumb and uneducated Americans, who do not even understand the source of their own (comparable to the World) wealth. I for one will be laughing about the irony, that the USA will have destroyed its underpinnings for being a world power simply by its own ignorance. Good riddance!

Tariffs make sense to me, American's should choose alternative products where possible, dumb to continue buying products where the product price jumps. Companies will relocate to America creating jobs to avoid tariffs, what's not to like about that

My perception of the intensity of MAGA support is that it is increasingly and aggressively becoming desperately defensive in the face of Trump's laughable incapacity to comprehend that just because he wants a utopic outcome from his deluded edicts that he either plays into the hands of his "advisors " or he  sinks the US  population degree on degree ! 

The era when the US could dictate by virtue of economic and military omnipresence is now fading fast and accelerated  by the Orange Idiocies ?

The "Lefties " accused of doing nothing in fact need not do much . Perhaps they are wise to not participate bigly in the social suicide being inflicted ?

Even suicide via fentanyl is being denied while elitist monopoly of cocaine is forever denied ! 

Those pesky Taliban upset things  again !

 

 

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

Tariffs make sense to me, American's should choose alternative products where possible, dumb to continue buying products where the product price jumps. Companies will relocate to America creating jobs to avoid tariffs, what's not to like about that

By the time the production is available the robots will not give  s@it .  

 

26 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

Probably a village is missing him 🤣

Doubtful. I have the impression this person knows better than to irritate the mind of his social fraternity but the arrogant ignorants  of AN are fair  game ! 555

9 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Tariffs make sense to me, American's should choose alternative products where possible, dumb to continue buying products where the product price jumps. Companies will relocate to America creating jobs to avoid tariffs, what's not to like about that

 

We are often laughing on this forum about the Thais, having a long list of reserved professions because their domestic labour market is not up for world competition (basket weaving, mulberry paper making, rice planting, etc).

 

Do you want to tell me that American products are that bad that they need to be protected from the world market? Then the USA is in an even more sad state than i thought.

 

My pity for today is reserved for the incompetent Americans needing protection from outside competition as if they lived in the Third World.

On that note: tariffs are reversed dual pricing, there the Americans pay more for worldwide available goods than the rest of the people.

 

How incredibly stupid is that?

34 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

This is why the world laughs about the dumb and uneducated Americans,

 

That's rich, coming from a German, whose economy has been stagnant for years because of stupid policy.

 

USA:  4% of the world's population, 26% of the world's economy.  And we're supposed to be the uneducated ones?

 

Aren't you guys the ones that ridiculed Trump when he suggested that tying your economic future to Russkie energy may not be so smart?  How is that one aging?

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Not so much a matter of loving Reagan as it is to point out Trump's massive ignorance.

Yes,Reagan was correct about everything.”

I think, we in Germany are doing just fine.

 

But anyway, this thread is about Trump trashing the American economy, which should be -- as you pointed out -- be running exceedingly well. Funny then, that protectionism like some third world banana republic is the card you play now.

42 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

This is why the world laughs about the dumb and uneducated Americans, who do not even understand the source of their own (comparable to the World) wealth. I for one will be laughing about the irony, that the USA will have destroyed its underpinnings for being a world power simply by its own ignorance. Good riddance!

The funny part, us dumb uneducated Americans are richer and more successful than you Euros.

Just now, Mike_Hunt said:

The funny part, us dumb uneducated Americans are richer and more successful than you Euros.

 

And widening the gap year after year if you believe Jamie Dimon.  He's pretty good with money and the numbers.

 

8 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

I think, we in Germany are doing just fine.

 

But anyway, this thread is about Trump trashing the American economy, which should be -- as you pointed out -- be running exceedingly well. Funny then, that protectionism like some third world banana republic is the card you play now.

The poorest state in the USA has about the same GDP per capita as your defeated country.

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1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

And widening the gap year after year if you believe Jamie Dimon.  He's pretty good with money and the numbers.

 

Their envy is showing.  They can even defend themselves without our help.

8 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

I think, we in Germany are doing just fine.

 

That's not what AP says:

 

Germany’s economy is in the dumps. Here are 5 reasons why

 

Source:  https://apnews.com/  (Feb 17, 2025)

19 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

 

We are often laughing on this forum about the Thais, having a long list of reserved professions because their domestic labour market is not up for world competition (basket weaving, mulberry paper making, rice planting, etc).

 

Do you want to tell me that American products are that bad that they need to be protected from the world market? Then the USA is in an even more sad state than i thought.

 

My pity for today is reserved for the incompetent Americans needing protection from outside competition as if they lived in the Third World.

American products are quite good, but American firms produce them abroad, and repatriate part of their earnings to the US.

Ex Apple is selling its products worldwide, but around 80% of its R&D is made in the US.

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

That's not what AP says:

 

Germany’s economy is in the dumps. Here are 5 reasons why

 

Source:  https://apnews.com/  (Feb 17, 2025)

you are good at distracting. why dont you keep at discussing the OP at hand?

1 minute ago, candide said:

American products are quite good, but American firms produce them abroad, and repatriate part of their earnings to the US.

Ex Apple is selling its products worldwide, but around 80% of its R&D is made in the US.

indeed they are. so why compromising that with a reverse dual pricing, hitting American companies and consumers?

 

This perverse Trump logic must make the brains of some here really twisetd, because it is not understandable to a normal person.

6 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

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Their envy is showing.  They can even defend themselves without our help.

Don't get me wrong, my day would be made if the USA finally implodes. They have been a cancer on the world, albeit at times useful.

 

But if they already insist to be a member of the civilized western nations, I would wish they were democratic and economically strong -- as them being rich makes us also all richer in turn (a large combined market being more than the sum of their individual parts -- hence the EU).

 

But at the moment the USA are a banana republic, and economically imploding. Which actually makes them more a danger than an ally.

10 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

That's not what AP says:

 

Germany’s economy is in the dumps. Here are 5 reasons why

 

Source:  https://apnews.com/  (Feb 17, 2025)

 

 

Hmmm......

 

 

56 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Tariffs make sense to me, American's should choose alternative products where possible, dumb to continue buying products where the product price jumps. Companies will relocate to America creating jobs to avoid tariffs, what's not to like about that

 

Yeah, go Tump!!!🤣

 

 

 

 

Trump has no reason to follow Reagan's example, or policies. However, IMHO, the biggest difference between both presidents is that Reagan was a real statesman, while Trump's policies are absolutely erratic, and his demeanour at times just arrogant and self-serving.

 

I can imagine that Trump may one day be named among the five 'worst' presidents in U.S. history. (He actually seems to share a good number of "qualities" with Herbert Hoover...) 😆 

So the "lefties" are still talking about 50 years ago or ...maybe somebody else brought it up first?

The rats are deserting the sinking tariff ship — apparently their caffeine-deprived electorate just found the Kool-Aid antidote.

US Senate passes bill to terminate Trump tariffs against Brazil

The Republican-led U.S. Senate passed legislation on Tuesday that would overturn President Donald Trump's tariffs against Brazil by terminating the national emergency he declared in July in retaliation for Brazil's prosecution of its former president, Jair Bolsonaro, for an alleged coup attempt.

In the first of three tariff bills expected in the Senate this week, lawmakers approved the Brazil measure 52-48, with five Republicans crossing partisan lines to back the legislation.

US Senate passes bill to terminate Trump tariffs against Brazil | Reuters

5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

By using 50 year old arguments from when the world was a completely different place? Talk about ignorance😅

Much better than using 130 years old arguments! 😅

 

https://www.wvxu.org/politics/2025-02-07/analysis-trump-mckinley-tariffs

9 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

My pity for today is reserved for the incompetent Americans needing protection from outside competition as if they lived in the Third World.

If Americans were paid alot less and similar to these 3rd world countries the tariffs wouldn't be needed, China even has slave labour in the mix. Maybe you can contact your American friends and see if they'll take massive pay cuts

14 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

For some of us who possess common sense and are well versed in globalization, we realize how incredibly destructive the Trump tariffs truly are, and we acknowledge the fact that they are a tax hike on the American public. 

 

So what were Reagan’s views on trade policy? Reagan was not a doctrinaire policymaker. The key to understanding his approach is the three P’s: principle, pragmatism and politics.

 

On principle, there is no question as to where Reagan stood. In 1982 he said, “Free trade serves the cause of economic progress, and it serves the cause of world peace.” In 1985 he said that “our trade policy rests firmly on the foundation of free and open markets — free trade.”

He was equally firm in opposing protectionism. “We should call it destructionism,” he argued. “It destroys jobs, weakens our industries, harms exports, costs billions of dollars to consumers, and damages our overall economy.” He called demands for high tariffs and import restrictions “a familiar bit of flimflammery in American politics.”

 

One Reagan rebuke, in a speech he gave in 1988, has resonance today. “Protectionism is being used by some American politicians as a cheap form of nationalism,” he warned. “We should beware of the demagogues who are ready to declare a trade war against our friends — weakening our economy, our national security and the entire free world — all while cynically waving the American flag.”

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/29/opinion/trump-reagan-tariffs-canada.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

 

“Emergencies are like war, famine, tornado,” said Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, the sole Republican sponsor of the resolution rejecting the tariffs on Brazil in Mr. Trump’s trade war. “Not liking someone’s tariffs is not an emergency. It’s an abuse of the emergency power, and it’s Congress abdicating their traditional role in taxes.”

 

Joining Mr. Paul in supporting the measure were four other G.O.P. senators who have expressed concern that the tariffs could cause economic pain in the United States: Senators Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Senator Thom Tillis of North Carolina.

 

Asked before the vote why more of his Republican colleagues were not willing to support the measure, Mr. Paul answered: “Fear.”

 

“The prosecution of a friend of the president — how is that an emergency that threatens the United States? It doesn’t,” Mr. Kaine said.

From White House Physician to professor of economics all in one day.  Quite impressive.  You may pass up @Lacessit in personal achievements.

 

@Walker88has left his impact on you based on the length and fact free post.

 

Just one word of advice.

 

 

From President Trump's Canada - Reagan 24 OCT 2025 Truth Social:

 

 

This case. From the US Supreme Court:

 

Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, et al., Petitioners
v.
V.O.S. Selections, Inc., et al.

 

The cases will be set for argument 05 November 2025.

 

Stay tuned.

 

It is sad day when one has to say that Ray-gun was right; but sadly, that day has come.