5 minutes ago, gravity101 said:

Thats a sweeping statement. If they were married they have equal custody and only a court can decide what's best for the child. If they were not married, he may have sought child ligitamacy with the family courts after birth which again will require the courts to decide should they disagree on custody on breakup. I know many many male foreigners that have won custody battles here in Thailand.

Correct if it is only on the birth certificate that means legally nothing, however if you have the other evidence it can be done with DNA test before age 7 normally. There is interviews and paperwork, some witnesses and a hearing in court only. It is a quite easy and straightforward process if both parties cooperate, else a bit lengthier.

 

Once it is all done you can go with court papers + witnessses to the local amphur and you are officially registered as the father etc. This is usually also what you need to apply for the passport of the father country (assuming foreigner). If you do it after 7, it usually requires a DNA test.

7 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

The foreigner is an idiot for not taking precautions and bringing this poor kid into the world.

 

Sadly in Pattaya there are hundreds of these kids running around and it seems to have been normalized.

 

   Didn't you previously state that you regularly have condom free sex with prostitutes ?

   Unconcerned about pregnancies or diseases 

Sounds like he has done an honourable thing but he’s on dangerous ground.

Just now, Keeenok Powell said:

Sounds like he has done an honourable thing but he’s on dangerous ground.

Depends how well he documented it but yeah he basically needs to come to a mutual agreement with her, likely for a money bid to cooperate. 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Didn't you previously state that you regularly have condom free sex with prostitutes ?

   Unconcerned about pregnancies or diseases 

No woman has ever got pregnant by a facial.

As far as disease I always shower after making love and urinate.

Being circumcised also helps.

7 hours ago, watchcat said:

 

Agree, but he has himself to blaim, why did he married a hooker?

Bald and overweight.

We often do.

If the guy concerned is not named on the child's birth certificate he is on a loser and could get done for kidnapping 

This is Thailand  the law will be on the mothers side 

3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

No woman has ever got pregnant by a facial.

As far as disease I always shower after making love and urinate.

Being circumcised also helps.

Expert advice, for those who risk stuff with ol' slappers...😒

Reasonable grounds for potential child abduction ?

teak door comes to life 

1 minute ago, shackleton said:

If the guy concerned is not named on the child's birth certificate he is on a loser and could get done for kidnapping 

This is Thailand  the law will be on the mothers side 

True he needs to be on the birth certificate but there is no parental kidnapping in Thailand. It's a  lack of care for the welfare of the children.Whoever has the child in possession has them, and you need to go looking to get them back.In the US, if a parent takes the child and hides it from the other, they go to jail

18 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Most Thai kids I have met seem to be better behaved and respectful than the kids back in the UK.

100% true of the USA. 

These days if something like this went to court a lot of judges are siding with the parent who is better able to provide support to the child. Would a judge taken to account the income of working gal? Likely not. 

Alternate heading could be :

 

 

Foreign Ex-Husband Allegedly Takes Thai Woman's Son

 

 

Alternate heading could be :

 

   Father rescues abandoned son from mother who neglected their  son 

7 hours ago, watchcat said:

 

Agree, but he has himself to blaim, why did he married a hooker?

Or get her pregnant

7 hours ago, watchcat said:

 

Agree, but he has himself to blaim, why did he married a hooker?

A drug user married a hooker.

7 hours ago, thesetat said:

The story header is quite misleading by not stating he is the paternal father. He has just as much right to the child as the mother does. To claim he took her child is wrong. 

I do not and hope the police do not get involved in this other than setting up a custody hearing to settle who gets custody. 

Although the drug charge for the foreigner previously should not affect the custody settlement drastically. it may affect his visa status if true. 

 

No. He has as much right of access to the child if he is a satisfactory parent and if he is the father. Access is not the equivalent of "right to a child". The child is not property. The burden of proof is on the plaintiff parent and the state to show that the mother is unfit. Until such time, if the mother is stable and financially capable, custody will almost always remain with the mother.

The mother is almost always the most suitable person to retain primary custody of a young child. The exception is made when the mother is unfit, e.g. a drug addict, a criminal, mentally ill.

 

A drug conviction most certainly influence the awarding of child custody. Family court does not want a child to be in a drug convict home. All we have seen so far are unsubstantiated allegations of  the woman being a sex worker and the father being a druggie. It is the he said, she said family dispute.  The man is in a difficult  position because he has acted without  a legal right to take the child. If he felt the child was neglected he should have gone to family services and obtained custody legally. Now he is just another bully stealing a Thai child. Yanking a child away from the mother and putting it in an unfamiliar environment is frowned upon by family court. This man is going to get a serious smack when the courts catch up to him.

24 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Alternate heading could be :

 

 

Foreign Ex-Husband Allegedly Takes Thai Woman's Son

 

 

Alternate heading could be :

 

   Father rescues abandoned son from mother who neglected their  son 

How do you know? All that there is, is his allegation.

Family disputes are  nasty.

Stay with the father is better, otherwise end up like useless when he grows up. 

34 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

True he needs to be on the birth certificate but there is no parental kidnapping in Thailand. It's a  lack of care for the welfare of the children.Whoever has the child in possession has them, and you need to go looking to get them back.

 

   You would need the Mothers consent to take the child abroad .

Child trafficking laws are quite strict 

3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

How do you know? All that there is, is his allegation.

Family disputes are  nasty.

 

   The heading would be what the story consists of .

His claim would be the headline 

49 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Most Thai kids I have met seem to be better behaved and respectful than the kids back in the UK.

 

Have you seen how they tame their elephants? Same thing. 

 

Kids in the UK were better behaved when it was socially acceptable to give them a good hiding, too!

 

I've seen so much neglect and abuse being passed off as normal parenting here, that's all.

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You would need the Mothers consent to take the child abroad .

Child trafficking laws are quite strict 

All depends on the immigration agent. It's best to get a letter but having the child's passport, especially both, actually gives that child permission to travel. I've heard many different stories on both sides, but I always get a letter just in case the agent doesn't understand the laws. What I meant about parental kidnapping here is taking the child somewhere in Thailand without telling the other parent. Being a backwards thinking justice system, they don't consider it kidnapping. 

Just now, FruitPudding said:

 

Have you seen how they tame their elephants? Same thing. 

 

Kids in the UK were better behaved when it was socially acceptable to give them a good hiding, too!

 

I've seen so much neglect and abuse being passed off as normal parenting here, that's all.

The same, and more corporal punishment than I've ever personally seen in the US. Women here carry around sticks to put their children "in place". The teachers do also. Many fathers here never see their kids, let alone provide, and seeing more than 35% of the children are raised by grandma, who's old school corporal punishment is used, many kids grow up angry and out of control. My ex's whole 11 children family was neglected and abused, and it shows how she treated her other 2 children, and tried with ours.

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

The same, and more corporal punishment than I've ever personally seen in the US. Women here carry around sticks to put their children "in place". The teachers do also. Many fathers here never see their kids, let alone provide, and seeing more than 35% of the children are raised by grandma, who's old school corporal punishment is used, many kids grow up angry and out of control. My ex's whole 11 children family was neglected and abused, and it shows how she treated her other 2 children, and tried with ours.

 

Yeah, you don't actually think about this until she starts physically abusing your kid and telling you that you don't understand cos you are a foreigner, lol.

 

What they don't understand is that it's common in low income areas and they are just showing their class.

1 minute ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Yeah, you don't actually think about this until she starts physically abusing your kid and telling you that you don't understand cos you are a foreigner, lol.

 

What they don't understand is that it's common in low income areas and they are just showing their class.

She hit my daughter before I moved here and tried a couple of times when I did, and I told her never again. My daughter's teacher hit kids with sticks until my daughter told me and I spoke to the principal and had her stop. My ex has a short fuse and loses it very fast over minor things.

1 hour ago, transam said:

Expert advice, for those who risk stuff with ol' slappers...😒

Bald and overweight 

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

She hit my daughter before I moved here and tried a couple of times when I did, and I told her never again. My daughter's teacher hit kids with sticks until my daughter told me and I spoke to the principal and had her stop. My ex has a short fuse and loses it very fast over minor things.

Spare the rod spoil the child.

17 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

My ex's whole 11 children family was neglected and abused, and it shows how she treated her other 2 children, and tried with ours.

You married a women with two kids to a different father?

Why?

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

Spare the rod spoil the child.

No, abuse the child, create an abuser. Most child abuse happens during punishment and there's a high correlation between children who are hit and those that hit their own children, and also partners. Also a likelihood of drug and alcohol abuse and depression...................https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3447048/

3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

You married a women with two kids to a different father?

Why?

I did the same thing most men do , especially to women here. Have you seen what Thai women look like outside the bar environment? Attraction does all men in, and most don't marry a childhood sweetheart or virgin.