4 hours ago, Purdey said:

Please explain what his religion has to do with saving lives. Don't mention the religious group, just him saving lives.

I'm not sure the 'hero' even exists.

Seems a bit too convenient that he was on the spot.

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'm not sure the 'hero' even exists.

Seems a bit too convenient that he was on the spot.

 

The whole thing was fabricated, right?

 

There was no attacker or even passengers because the train didn't exist. In fact, this post, thread, AN, me and you don't exist🤦

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I'm not sure the 'hero' even exists.

Seems a bit too convenient that he was on the spot.

Samir Zitouni the train guard who placed himself in front of innocent people is in hospital with critical injuries and here you are a key board warrior trying to create a false story to fulfil your own warped views.

 

You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

It is very clear who the better man is and who has more courage then you and his name is Samir Zitouni!!!

What's up with you guys? You really want to be disarmed by your government? I thought people moved to Thailand for the freedom and to avoid the nanny state. Doesn't make any sense.

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I'm not sure the 'hero' even exists.

Seems a bit too convenient that he was on the spot.

He’s a train guard, he was on the spot because his job was to be on that train.

 

Get over it already.

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I'm not sure the 'hero' even exists.

Seems a bit too convenient that he was on the spot.

 

 

Have you been on illegal substances.

 

 

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10 hours ago, stupidfarang said:

Samir Zitouni the train guard who placed himself in front of innocent people is in hospital with critical injuries and here you are a key board warrior trying to create a false story to fulfil your own warped views.

 

You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

It is very clear who the better man is and who has more courage then you and his name is Samir Zitouni!!!

Where are all the video clips of the event from phones?

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Where are all the video clips of the event from phones?

Turned over to the police for evidence?

18 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Not sure what this has to do with what I am saying.

 

Clearly. 

 

18 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

 

The point (which you have completely missed of course) is that coming out of the Dublin Agreement (and surprise, surprise, that agreement is NOT actually about Dublin) through Brexit actually INCREASED the number of asylum seekers arriving in the UK. So when you 'don't support boatloads of undocumented illegals' then by definition you should be asking for the UK to rejoin the EU? But are you? Are you anti-Farage? Anti-remain? Pushing for reintegration with the EU?

 

Of course you're not.

 

   

 

Nonsense.

 

As Ireland (in particular Dublin but increasingly elsewhere as well) is proving, remaining in the EU does not mean you won't get thousands of illegal immigrants. Hence their communities being ruined and subsequent riots that I posted. 

 

We got them before we left, we got them after we left. Plenty of EU have countries have HUGE issues with illegal immigration, Ireland is just one example. Blaming Brexit for illegal immigration is perhaps the dumbest thing I have heard all week. 

40 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Turned over to the police for evidence?

 

More likely confiscated under the threat of jail sentences for "inciting violence".

 

Wouldn't want the public to see the extent of the violent chaos that the UK is descending into. Especially if the attacker shouted something not in line with the official narrative. 

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Turned over to the police for evidence?

Not one person on the train had a data package with Google photos?

 

18 hours ago, RayC said:

As for your policy. I'm afraid that has little chance of working. Let's say the UK, US and EU countries all want some brain surgeons. (1) The UK says we'll offer you a salary of X for 2 years and then you go back home

 

Strawman.

 

Never said anything about sending them home. If they qualify for a required profession, clear the background checks etc. they can stay as long as they like as long as they don't start committing crime. 

 

Australia had a similar policy and it worked very well. 

 

18 hours ago, RayC said:

Incorrect?

 

The incorrect part was your (deliberate) misrepresentation of my position on immigration. 

 

18 hours ago, RayC said:

 

 

When can we expect you back from Thailand then

 

No immediate plans to return Raymond. My LTR visa expires in 2034 but life is extremely good for me in Thailand. If Reform win in 2029 and swiftly deport every single illegal I may consider it around 2035 but frankly I'd rather stay in Asia. The UK is likely beyond fixing due to the Woke mind virus taking hold. Ideologies like yours have drained all the fun out of the place. 

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Where are all the video clips of the event from phones?

I refuse to engage anymore as you are filling your daily life with baiting messages that have no relevance and are only a reflection on your mentality

17 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Not one person on the train had a data package with Google photos?

 

That taking selfies and snapping the view thing.

 

People fleeing for life don’t do it.

On 11/5/2025 at 3:47 PM, RayC said:

 

Your prejudice is so deep-rooted that you can't bring yourself to accept that a Muslim can act heroically in defence of others, but instead offer nothing more than a snide comment.

 

I have nothing but admiration for Mr. Zitouni and the others who put themselves in danger to protect fellow passengers, irrespective of their colour, religion, sexuality or any other personal attribute.

As do we all, They are all heroes and deserving of a medal

The problem we the "extreme fascist right wingers"  have is nothing to do with "foreigners"  in our country being  muslims or Gays or Black Brown yellow pink or even albino, It does however have everything to do with whether they are here illegally and unvetted  Is that  so difficult to understand

This article is about the tragic stabbing of passengers on a train in the UK where several brave people helped prevent the attacker (a British Citizen) from inflicting further stabbing injuries, in particular the Algerian born train guard and the English Nottingham Forest football supporter. I hope they are given Honours.

 

All the comments about racism, illegal and legal migration, Muslims, the EU and ethnicity etc. etc. IMO are completely irrelevant in reference to this sad attack.

So, please, please stop posting garbage!

 

No further comment from me.

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That taking selfies and snapping the view thing.

 

People fleeing for life don’t do it.

If they don't do it now they will be doing soon,   anything for clicks and likes

8 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

As do we all, They are all heroes and deserving of a medal

The problem we the "extreme fascist right wingers"  have is nothing to do with "foreigners"  in our country being  muslims or Gays or Black Brown yellow pink or even albino, It does however have everything to do with whether they are here illegally and unvetted  Is that  so difficult to understand

 

You obviously didn't read my post containing the following paragraph:

 

"Very few people - myself included - support illegal economic migrants being allowed into the country. Asylum for genuine refugees is another matter".

11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Strawman.

 

Hardly a Strawman unless you think that renumeration, welfare provision, etc plays no part in a prospective migrant's choice of location.

 

In the case of surgeons, salaries in both the US on average, much higher than those in the UK; they are also higher in much of the EU. Also true for engineers and IT professionals.

 

Countries compete with each other for talent. It's difficult to see what would entice skilled individuals to choose the UK over the US or other English speaking countries given the current attitudes and rules governing immigration.

 

11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Never said anything about sending them home. If they qualify for a required profession, clear the background checks etc. they can stay as long as they like as long as they don't start committing crime. 

11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Australia had a similar policy and it worked very well. 

 

I am pleasantly surprised by these comments. I did you an injustice; my apologies. I would never have thought that you would be in favour of allowing an immigrant to the UK who loses - or voluntarily gives up his job - being allowed to remain in the UK indefinitely under the same conditions as a native-born Brit e.g. full access to the welfare state for him/her and his family (I assume that you are happy for the immigrants' family to have accompanied him/ her?).

 

If AI is correct, in many ways the Australian system is much more liberal than the one that currently exists in the UK. For example, unlike the UK a job offer is not always needed in order to immigrate to Australia, nor is the visa tied to the job e.g. a surgeon who decides that he wants to become a full-time musician is perfectly entitled to do so. In addition, permanent residency can be granted to an immigrant immediately in Australia (unlike the UK and EU (and US?)). It's good to know that you are in favour of these liberal provisions.

 

11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

The incorrect part was your (deliberate) misrepresentation of my position on immigration. 

 

More my making false assumptions. As I implied above, I am delighted to be corrected and welcome your liberal outlook to immigration.

 

11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

No immediate plans to return Raymond. My LTR visa expires in 2034 but life is extremely good for me in Thailand. If Reform win in 2029 and swiftly deport every single illegal I may consider it around 2035 but frankly I'd rather stay in Asia. The UK is likely beyond fixing due to the Woke mind virus taking hold. Ideologies like yours have drained all the fun out of the place. 

 

It's touching that you care so much about the UK, but regrettable that this concern is not enough for you to return and help turn it back to the idyll you remember. Nevertheless, l'm pleased that you are enjoying life in Thailand.

 

You are no doubt aware that certain categories of "foreign residents" in the UK suffer from a bad reputation by association. Because a minority with whom they share certain attributes e.g. religious beliefs, behave in an anti social way (and a very small number are outright evil and seek to harm others) all members of this grouping are st abuse and worse by a small minority of the "indigenous" population. I do hope that you don't suffer similar treatment at the hands of the locals as a foreigner because of the misdemeanors and criminal acts committed by the small number of our fellow countrymen who are resident in Thailand.

 

So I'm a killjoy as my "ideology" has taken the fun out of the UK? Well, I don't know what you think my ideology is, and I certainly don't know how I've removed the fun. As far as I'm concerned as long as your antics don't break the law, or impinge directly upon me or my family, you can entertain yourself in whatever way you see fit.

 

Samir Zitouni  immigrated 20+ years ago, just as other people have legally entered the UK and found employment.

After 20 + years, when can he cease being described as an "immigrant" and recognized as  UK citizen?

7 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Samir Zitouni  immigrated 20+ years ago, just as other people have legally entered the UK and found employment.

After 20 + years, when can he cease being described as an "immigrant" and recognized as  UK citizen?

I agree with you this time 

On 11/6/2025 at 10:53 AM, BritManToo said:

I'm not sure the 'hero' even exists.

Seems a bit too convenient that he was on the spot.

He is a train Guard where would you expect him on the train ??? on the platform as the train pulls away.

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

He is a train Guard where would you expect him on the train ??? on the platform as the train pulls away.

He is a cabin attendant. The  company calls him an onboard customer experience professional.

He was in the galley when the event started and he used a frying pan to hold off the violent assailant. Appreciably, dealing with violent nutters was not in his job description.  

6 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

He is a cabin attendant. The  company calls him an onboard customer experience professional.

He was in the galley when the event started and he used a frying pan to hold off the violent assailant. Appreciably, dealing with violent nutters was not in his job description.  

So he went above and beyond his duties.

 

Hero!