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On 11/6/2025 at 9:01 PM, MalcolmB said:

Another whining exaggerating clueless anti masker. I was hoping they had sort of disappeared.

 

Thais wear masks for a number of reasons .

They prefer to keep the  sun off their faces,

And don’t want to breathe in traffic fumes.

If they have a cold, cough, Covid etc it is common courtesy for those around them.

To protect themselves from the BS that sprays out of anti maskers mouths.

I am still recovering from radiotherapy to my throat and the missis is happier when she knows I'm wearing one outside.

The OP definitely has a screw loose up there......

4 hours ago, simon43 said:

The OP definitely has a screw loose up there......

The only fruitcakes are the ones still wearing masks, eternally petrified of covid and there are a lot of these wimps in Thailand.

23 hours ago, connda said:

If I had a cold (sneezing, coughing) I'd wear a mask in public.  It's the right thing to do as the mask catches fine droplets of water (mucus) and protects others.  It's amazing to see how many people chooses to share their colds with others.  But to wear them to protect you from Covid?  What a laugh.  That's like installing a chain-link fence on your property to keep out mosquitoes.  The mask wearing during Covid was a sign of fear and/or a sign of compliance.  Still is.

1) I suggest you compare the number of deaths from Covid in Thailand, a tin pot developing country, to the UK, one of the largest economy's in the World; both with similar populations. There were, shamefully, almost seven times more deaths in the UK. There were other factors but the main reason, l believe, was 99% masked wearing in Thailand.

2) It was proven, somewhat late on, that the main transmission route for Covid was airborne and not by touch. You have already acknowledged that you would wear a mask which, as you say, catches fine droplets of water (mucus) to protect others if you thought you had a cold virus, so isn't it the logical next step, during a viral pandemic as serious as COVID, to wear a mask to protect others, especially those more vulnerable, from possible infection,  and, of course to help protect yourself? Sorry but to me it's a no-brainer!

8 minutes ago, SunsetT said:

1) I suggest you compare the number of deaths from Covid in Thailand, a tin pot developing country, to the UK, one of the largest economy's in the World; both with similar populations. There were, shamefully, almost seven times more deaths in the UK. There were other factors but the main reason, l believe, was 99% masked wearing in Thailand.

2) It was proven, somewhat late on, that the main transmission route for Covid was airborne and not by touch. You have already acknowledged that you would wear a mask which, as you say, catches fine droplets of water (mucus) to protect others if you thought you had a cold virus, so isn't it the logical next step, during a viral pandemic as serious as COVID, to wear a mask to protect others, especially those more vulnerable, from possible infection,  and, of course to help protect yourself? Sorry but to me it's a no-brainer!

All in the past now - time to move on. It is nearly 2026, it has been pretty much 6 years now. The current severity of the situation does not justify insane behaviours like driving alone with a mask on or walking around a shopping mall in an oversized surgical mask on, only to remove it when you sit down to eat at a restaurant. By any metric, that is ostensibly dumb behavior and the the constant burden of wearing a mask will cause far more harm than the virus ever will. It is genuinely mental how scared people in Thailand are still and has exposed a deep-rooted cowardice and irrationality at the core of the national psyche.

12 minutes ago, SunsetT said:

1) I suggest you compare the number of deaths from Covid in Thailand, a tin pot developing country, to the UK, one of the largest economy's in the World; both with similar populations. There were, shamefully, almost seven times more deaths in the UK. There were other factors but the main reason, l believe, was 99% masked wearing in Thailand.

2) It was proven, somewhat late on, that the main transmission route for Covid was airborne and not by touch. You have already acknowledged that you would wear a mask which, as you say, catches fine droplets of water (mucus) to protect others if you thought you had a cold virus, so isn't it the logical next step, during a viral pandemic as serious as COVID, to wear a mask to protect others, especially those more vulnerable, from possible infection,  and, of course to help protect yourself? Sorry but to me it's a no-brainer!

And no, I didn't acknowledge that, nor will you find any evidence of me suggesting so in this thread. If I feel sick, I just stay at home and rest - common sense really. And yes, Thailand had lower cases during the first wave as they shut their borders hard early on, it was nothing to do with masks. From 2021 onwards - the rate of infection in heavily masked countries such as Thailand, Japan, Taiwan e.t.c  is the same, if not higher than that of Western countries where literally nobody still wears a mask. The data is clear - at a community level they don't work, maybe in a laboratory experiment they prevent a few particles spreading, but real life isn't a laboratory. Besides, as I have already mentioned on countless occasions - I don't really care about the efficacy, I am more concerned about the psychological implications of masking and what it does to human connection and interaction. Whatever though, I don't live here, as mentioned I am just visiting, I don't have to deal with being surrounded by wimpy and psychosomatic hypochondriacs who live in constant fear by hiding their faces in public like some mutinous dog in public.

1 hour ago, PerfidiousAlbion said:

The only fruitcakes are the ones still wearing masks, eternally petrified of covid and there are a lot of these wimps in Thailand.

Reads like you've joined them, a problem with mask wearers...........🤣

Just now, transam said:

Reads like you've joined them, a problem with mask wearers...........🤣

Nearly 100,000 posts on this forum and you're still yet to say anything even remotely interesting or insightful. All the charm of a prostate exam. 

16 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

Studies supporting surgical mask efficacy

• Bangladesh randomized controlled trial (2021): A large-scale randomized trial involving nearly 350,000 people in rural Bangladesh found that surgical masks reduced symptomatic COVID-19 infections by 11% in the intervention villages compared to control villages. The effect was even stronger among older adults, with infections reduced by nearly 35% in those over 60. This gold-standard study showed that promoting mask-wearing could significantly cut community transmission.
• Case-control studies: A meta-analysis of case-control studies found that wearing a surgical mask reduced the chance of COVID-19 infection by 49% compared to not wearing a mask. The review noted that the quality of evidence was low due to potential biases in observational studies, but the findings still indicated effectiveness.
• Observational studies: Multiple observational studies during the pandemic found that mask use and mask mandates were associated with reduced spread of SARS-CoV-2 in community settings. Analyses on a population level suggested that mask mandates were linked to substantial declines in daily COVID-19 case growth rates.
• Lab and animal studies: Controlled experiments have shown that surgical masks are effective at blocking virus-containing aerosols and droplets, confirming their role as source control. For example, one animal study showed that a "surgical mask" partition reduced transmission of SARS-CoV-2 between infected and naive hamsters. 

 

Conflicting or inconclusive evidence

It is important to note that a few studies, often with methodological limitations, reported less certain or inconsistent results for surgical masks, leading to some disagreement. 

• Some meta-analyses of RCTs: Some meta-analyses focusing only on Randomized Controlled Trials (RCTs), which are often small and difficult to implement perfectly in a public setting, found less conclusive evidence for surgical masks compared to no masks, or no significant difference between surgical masks and higher-grade N95 respirators for community transmission. However, this perspective has been criticized for relying on an incomplete view of the available evidence, as RCTs are not always the "gold standard" for evaluating public health interventions.
• Early, smaller studies: Early in the pandemic, some smaller studies and commentaries raised questions. For example, a 2020 controlled comparison on only four patients found that surgical masks did not effectively filter SARS-CoV-2 particles during coughs. However, this finding was limited by its very small sample size and later refuted by larger, more robust studies. 

 

Are these the same sources that the Trump administration uses to "prove" that vaccines are just a Democrat con job? 

Just now, PerfidiousAlbion said:

And no, I didn't acknowledge that, nor will you find any evidence of me suggesting so in this thread. If I feel sick, I just stay at home and rest - common sense really. And yes, Thailand had lower cases during the first wave as they shut their borders hard early on, it was nothing to do with masks. From 2021 onwards - the rate of infection in heavily masked countries such as Thailand, Japan, Taiwan e.t.c  is the same, if not higher than that of Western countries where literally nobody still wears a mask. The data is clear - at a community level they don't work, maybe in a laboratory experiment they prevent a few particles spreading, but real life isn't a laboratory. Besides, as I have already mentioned on countless occasions - I don't really care about the efficacy, I am more concerned about the psychological implications of masking and what it does to human connection and interaction. Whatever though, I don't live here, as mentioned I am just visiting, I don't have to deal with being surrounded by wimpy and psychosomatic hypochondriacs who live in constant fear by hiding their faces in public like some mutinous dog in public.

😂...You've got some front talking about psychosomatic hypochondriacs, that's is you to a "T"......😂

3 minutes ago, PerfidiousAlbion said:

Nearly 100,000 posts on this forum and you're still yet to say anything even remotely interesting or insightful. All the charm of a prostate exam. 

You haven't been here long enough to state all that bumph, 5 days.....😂

 

Please try harder, and don't forget your mask when you go out....😂

the topic is stupid.

First off, calling it an obsession is hyperbole at best. 

Next, Thais have always worn bloody masks, it was a curiosity when i was working for a multinational here decades ago, and it is just a habit for some post-COVID, especially when the air quality is bad.

even if it is only effective as a placebo, why begrudge them, nobody is asking you to mask up again.

 

 
thais wore masks 

23 minutes ago, PerfidiousAlbion said:

41 minutes ago, SunsetT said:

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And no, I didn't acknowledge that, nor will you find any evidence of me suggesting so in this thread. If I feel sick, I just stay at home and rest - common sense really

I apologize. I was replying to Connda thinking it was you. 

 

 

On 11/6/2025 at 8:43 PM, PerfidiousAlbion said:

That's good to hear. Maybe it's just a Bangkok thing then - as that is where I am. 

Plenty of Diaper Faces in Hua Hin      such a shame!

6 hours ago, Luuk Chaai said:

Plenty of Diaper Faces in Hua Hin      such a shame!

I travelled to Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan back in June, and I am not just saying this to be provocative and contrarian - but both these countries had a significantly higher proportion of people smiling compared to Thailand. Not a mask in sight, just happy and healthy people welcoming you to their beautiful country, and as a result of this  you feel much more connected with the local people. Wonderfully underrated countries. The first thing you see when you step off the plane at BKK airport is a sea of masked staff who clearly never take them off and most likely wear the same one all day, both indoors and outdoors. Complete insanity and clearly nothing to do with pollution - and even if it were, then it would still be insanity. 

11 minutes ago, PerfidiousAlbion said:

I travelled to Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan back in June, and I am not just saying this to be provocative and contrarian - but both these countries had a significantly higher proportion of people smiling compared to Thailand. Not a mask in sight, just happy and healthy people welcoming you to their beautiful country, and as a result of this  you feel much more connected with the local people. Wonderfully underrated countries. The first thing you see when you step off the plane at BKK airport is a sea of masked staff who clearly never take them off and most likely wear the same one all day, both indoors and outdoors. Complete insanity and clearly nothing to do with pollution - and even if it were, then it would still be insanity. 

Nine pages of you ranting about the same (mostly made up) thing. 

On 11/6/2025 at 8:48 PM, PerfidiousAlbion said:

You must have some essential part of your soul missing then. The human face is a vehicle for human emotion and connection. It is part of our shared humanity. Without facial cues our human experience is dulled. From a humanist perspective, they are just awful. In Europe, nobody has worn masks for 3 years now - not even old people. When I see all these young 7-11 girls wearing masks still knowing that my 90 year old Gran doesn't wear one still - I just can't help but think many Thais are soft and cowardly. 

People have a right to wear or not to wear a mask. Their decision. Why does this bother you? 

4 minutes ago, Letseng said:

People have a right to wear or not to wear a mask. Their decision. Why does this bother you? 

The answer to that question is quite literally in the quote - not hard to figure out why. Masks create emotional barriers between people, they are like trying to figure out a jigsaw puzzle with half the pieces missing. I know we live in a world full of vacuous and empty-headed morons who play inane TikTok videos out loud on their phone, but some of us still appreciate genuine human connection. Also, on a purely superficial level, they are utterly hideous to look at - they dehumanize us and make us look like robots, thereby inducing a miserable atmosphere for those around them. They also serve us constant reminders of the medical tyranny we had to endure and perpetuate unnecessary levels of fear and anxiety. We could also argue that they violate some of the core tenets of the social contract - since they embolden criminals by normalizing a society where people's identity is anonymized. Before 2020, it was illegal to cover your face in indoor public space - we should revert back to pre-pandemic norms. Ok, if you have health issues fine, but let's be real, 99% of the clowns still wearing muzzles today do not have any underlying health conditions - their insistence on stinking out the atmosphere and ruining the culture is driven by cowardice, paranoia, docility and lack of critical thinking. 

21 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Nine pages of you ranting about the same (mostly made up) thing. 

Yea because I keep getting asked the same tedious question each time - amazing how dumb so many of you are. And don't gaslight me you insufferable goon - it's clear to anyone with eyes and a brain that a high percentage of Thais still wear masks due to a totally  irrational fear of covid. I wouldn't be surprised if some still sleep with their masks on. 

12 minutes ago, PerfidiousAlbion said:

Yea because I keep getting asked the same tedious question each time - amazing how dumb so many of you are. And don't gaslight me you insufferable goon - it's clear to anyone with eyes and a brain that a high percentage of Thais still wear masks due to a totally  irrational fear of covid. I wouldn't be surprised if some still sleep with their masks on. 

Well done, you've posted one non-dated photo with zero context. And your personal insults are getting really boring.

You are talking nonsense. I live here, have done for29 years. I live in Bangkok, I go out in to the city most days. As I posted earlier (but you ignored) I even counted masks on the ARL and BTS the other day. Absolutely, unquestionably, it is not more than 10%.

During Covid it was close to 100%, and Thailand fared very well. Since then usage has dwindled steadily to be almost insignificant now.

But yeah, shame about your dad dumping your mum for a Thai girl who wears a mask around you, I get your angst, but you need to let it go.

How long left now in your two week visit? And how much of it have you spent sitting and ranting on the internet?

29 minutes ago, PerfidiousAlbion said:

And I know it's hard to believe, but even some prominent Thais have come out and expressed dismay over the endless fixation with muzzles - see below as an example

Ok genius. When did he come out and say that?

Hint: there's a date in the image, and it is not very recent that's for sure. Not going to do your homework for you but there are plenty of tools on the internet to help you found out. Indeed, there are plenty of tools on the internet - I think most people in this thread will agree.

Oh dear.

59 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Well done, you've posted one non-dated photo with zero context. And your personal insults are getting really boring.

You are talking nonsense. I live here, have done for29 years. I live in Bangkok, I go out in to the city most days. As I posted earlier (but you ignored) I even counted masks on the ARL and BTS the other day. Absolutely, unquestionably, it is not more than 10%.

During Covid it was close to 100%, and Thailand fared very well. Since then usage has dwindled steadily to be almost insignificant now.

But yeah, shame about your dad dumping your mum for a Thai girl who wears a mask around you, I get your angst, but you need to let it go.

How long left now in your two week visit? And how much of it have you spent sitting and ranting on the internet?

Ok good to know you're an old git - you're as brainwashed and delusional as many of the locals. Bet you haven't even left Thailand in years, since you know you're utterly worthless anywhere else in the world.

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Well done, you've posted one non-dated photo with zero context. And your personal insults are getting really boring.

You are talking nonsense. I live here, have done for29 years. I live in Bangkok, I go out in to the city most days. As I posted earlier (but you ignored) I even counted masks on the ARL and BTS the other day. Absolutely, unquestionably, it is not more than 10%.

During Covid it was close to 100%, and Thailand fared very well. Since then usage has dwindled steadily to be almost insignificant now.

But yeah, shame about your dad dumping your mum for a Thai girl who wears a mask around you, I get your angst, but you need to let it go.

How long left now in your two week visit? And how much of it have you spent sitting and ranting on the internet?

And you've insulted me - so why should I play nice with you. I fight fire with fire. Always have and always will. 

17 minutes ago, PerfidiousAlbion said:

Ok good to know you're an old git - you're as brainwashed and delusional as many of the locals. Bet you haven't even left Thailand in years, since you know you're utterly worthless anywhere else in the world.

Wrong again on every count. Not that I need to explain myself to you, but suffice to say you could not be more wrong.

On 11/6/2025 at 4:58 PM, dinsdale said:

Some still mask up. Mainly older Thais and young women. Not sure why the girls do it. Fashion accessory? There are of course some on here that still hang on to the Covid thing. 

 

Yup - people hang on to the Covid thing...   they are so hung on to the Covid thing they can't get past it and understand that particularly in the city - people mask up not because of Covid - but because of pollution. 

 

Thats always been the case - look at motorcycle riders waiting at the traffic lights - they're masked up.

People walking down Sukhumvit Rd - many are masked up.

 

For many the masks serve a dual purpose - against pollution, and also as a barrier against the sun (as silly as that sounds)...   

 

No one is bothered about Covid anymore - except when threads try and make it about Covid like this one.

 

 

On 11/6/2025 at 6:42 PM, PerfidiousAlbion said:

I am friendly to those who show their faces and basic human emotion. Absolutely I am. No way I am going to be kind and friendly to some robot in a face mask though - they have decided to not participate in society like a normal human, so why should I be friendly with them. Anyone in customer service should not be wearing mask in late 2025 - it's awful on so many levels. The fact I even need to explain why I don't like communicating with who cover half their faces is simply staggering. It should be so obvious as to why. There are myriad reasons.

 

Wow... the struggle is clearly real !!!... 

 

There are issues afoot if this is getting people upset...   

 

Truly, in the course of everyday life, if someone opts to wear a mask, it’s hard to fathom how that could possibly register as a problem for anyone sane.

 

The mind genuinely boggles at how spectacularly unhinged some folk can get over the simplest of things - though I must say, threads like this are quite useful: a handy public service announcement reminding us whom to give a wide berth. You never know what might set them off next… perhaps the shocking sight of a handkerchief peeking from someone’s pocket?

 

 

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Yup - people hang on to the Covid thing...   they are so hung on to the Covid thing they can't get past it and understand that particularly in the city - people mask up not because of Covid - but because of pollution. 

 

Thats always been the case - look at motorcycle riders waiting at the traffic lights - they're masked up.

People walking down Sukhumvit Rd - many are masked up.

 

For many the masks serve a dual purpose - against pollution, and also as a barrier against the sun (as silly as that sounds)...   

 

No one is bothered about Covid anymore - except when threads try and make it about Covid like this one.

 

 

You live in cloud cuckoo land - look at all the people wearing them inside shopping malls. No pm25 or sun in there - it's an insult to people's intelligence to think people will believe that. Many Thais are still scared of covid and will be forever - that's a fact.

13 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Yup - people hang on to the Covid thing...   they are so hung on to the Covid thing they can't get past it and understand that particularly in the city - people mask up not because of Covid - but because of pollution. 

 

Thats always been the case - look at motorcycle riders waiting at the traffic lights - they're masked up.

People walking down Sukhumvit Rd - many are masked up.

 

For many the masks serve a dual purpose - against pollution, and also as a barrier against the sun (as silly as that sounds)...   

 

No one is bothered about Covid anymore - except when threads try and make it about Covid like this one.

 

 

And it's Olympian level gaslighting to assume I am the one still hung up when this country clearly still hasn't moved on, I am moved on back in 2021, like the rest of the world. It is Thais and other Asians who are still hung up, not me. Clown.

5 minutes ago, PerfidiousAlbion said:

18 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Yup - people hang on to the Covid thing...   they are so hung on to the Covid thing they can't get past it and understand that particularly in the city - people mask up not because of Covid - but because of pollution. 

 

Thats always been the case - look at motorcycle riders waiting at the traffic lights - they're masked up.

People walking down Sukhumvit Rd - many are masked up.

 

For many the masks serve a dual purpose - against pollution, and also as a barrier against the sun (as silly as that sounds)...   

 

No one is bothered about Covid anymore - except when threads try and make it about Covid like this one.

 

 

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You live in cloud cuckoo land - look at all the people wearing them inside shopping malls. No pm25 or sun in there - it's an insult to people's intelligence to think people will believe that. Many Thais are still scared of covid and will be forever - that's a fact.

 

Clearly the 'Cloud-Cuckoo-land' I live in is not the one where people are having a mental melt-down because they see others wearing a mask... 

 

When everyone around you seems to be losing their heads, it’s worth pausing to consider that perhaps the decapitation is metaphorical - and possibly your own.