During a high-profile White House meeting on November 18, 2025, Donald Trump defended Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, downplaying the 2018 killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Despite U.S. intelligence assessments that linked the crown prince to the assassination, Trump insisted he “knew nothing about it,” calling Khashoggi “extremely controversial” and dismissing questions about the murder as unnecessary. He said, “things happen,” and criticized a reporter for raising the issue during the meeting. 

 

 

 

 

The visit was marked by pomp and investment promises: Saudi Arabia pledged up to $1 trillion in U.S. investments, and Trump announced plans to sell “top-of-the-line” F‑35 stealth fighter jets to Riyadh, sparking concern in Israel and within U.S. intelligence circles. 

 

Trump also pushed for deeper diplomatic ties, discussing a possible normalization agreement between Saudi Arabia and Israel tied to a two-state solution. Meanwhile, he denied any conflict between his family’s business ties and Saudi interests, saying he has stepped back from his family’s business operations. 

 

 

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Key Takeaways:

 

Trump dismissed U.S. intelligence linking Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to Khashoggi’s murder, calling the investigative findings speculative.

 

A major part of the White House visit focused on economic and defense cooperation, including a potential deal for F‑35 fighter jets and $1 trillion in Saudi investment.

 

The meeting also touched on diplomatic ambitions: normalization with Israel and cooperation on a two-state solution

for Palestinians.

 

Adapted From 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/18/trump-bin-salman-visit-jamal-khashoggi

Disgusting! But no big surprise.

Whilst Trump put himself in a difficult position entertaining this murderer in front of the Press, there he is, shameless as ever. Well done to the Journalist that asked the right question.

 

Two vile men together !

Watching the Sky review of today's newspapers, journalist Jenny Kloeman makes a powerful point i.e. apart from Epstein himself, it's only Brits that have faced punishment so far, over the gruesome and 'sordid Epstein saga.

 

That's Ghislaine Maxwell (who IMHO has been cruelly scapegoated) and also Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor and Peter Mandelson, whose lives have been somewhat comprehensively destroyed . . . .

 

Whose next ???

 

The wriggling starts now !!!!!!!

 

 

Trump has shown on dozens of occasions that he absolutely adores despots, dictators and serial killing genocidal super freak leaders. That is just who he is, and it's likely that he wants to have power for life, and is very envious of these guys that they already have it. 

 

MBS has likely had many people killed, and even though he likes to foster a image of tolerance he's anything but the man is a serial killer. 

 

When it comes to Trump it's all about the money, and morality and doing the right thing never comes into play. 

 

 

 

Meme removed 

Two criminals praise each other; both belong in prison.

Ain't it the truth...

This was reported many years ago, so it's in the public space.

 

The intelligence assessment of who order Khashoggi's slaughter in not "highly likely", it's fact. There were SIGINT intercepts of conversations and messages.

 

For those who never saw the images, Khashoggi was indeed slaughtered. His limbs were cut off. His penis was cut off. The skin on his face was peeled. All of his parts were arranged in a gruesome "still art", with most of his face intact and splayed out next to his torso. The killers took images and sent them back to MbS as a sick "proof of death".

 

Trump was told about the intel and perhaps even shown the intercepted images of Khashoggi's body.

 

Trump's reaction to the reporter's question says everything one needs to know about Trump's (lack of) morality.

Salmon is allegedly/ most likely responsible for killing a journalist.

 

Trump had Netanyahu over recently and it has been well documented that the IDF has deliberately targeted not only journalists in Gaza, but their whole extended families which is obviously a lot worse than just killing one person.

 

Trump doesn’t like journalists because they ask difficult questions and call out lies.

 

 

 

I suspect Trump is trying to make money for himself with the Saudis and couldn’t care less about dead journalists.

Trump's realpolitik works for me......

 

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Realpolitik is a political approach that prioritizes practical, pragmatic considerations and national interests over ideological, moral, or ethical ones. It is the "politics of reality," emphasizing what is achievable and beneficial in a given situation, often involving strategic alliances and compromises, even with those who have opposing values.

 

Trumps an idiot and so are his supporters!

18 minutes ago, JimGant said:

Trump's realpolitik works for me......

 

 

Did 9/11 work for you too, as almost all terrorists were Saudi's

4 hours ago, JimGant said:

Trump's realpolitik works for me......

 

 

Realpolitik is for psychopaths.

 

Perhaps Trump should welcome all the drug lords sending cocaine, heroin, fetanyl, etc. into the US, because those guys make $billions, and could use their ill gotten gains to help fund the ever-increasing US deficit...or even help fund the new White House Ballroom.

surprised there are no magies involved in this post, maybe they (finally) came to the conclusion their master is a sociopath/psychopath, better later then never

3 hours ago, Mavideol said:

surprised there are no magies involved in this post, maybe they (finally) came to the conclusion their master is a sociopath/psychopath, better later then never

Nah, just better things to concern ourselves about than having discussions with the delusional crowd of hate spreader on AN.

I seem to remember all sorts of hand wringing when MAGAs were accusing Hunter from using his father to enrich himself.

 

Oddly---or perhaps not---not a peep out of MAGAs when Trump hosts a murderer who slaughtered a US Person, but presides over a nation where there is a Trump Tower Jeddah under construction, as well as two other Trump properties.

 

Trump has not divested his ownership in the Trump Corporation, so that is blatant corruption and self-dealing.

 

And let us not forget MbS gave Jared Kushner $2 billion to "manage", despite Jared have a total of zero fund management experience.

 

So the US Taxpayers host a murderer whose influence personally benefits Trump financially.

 

Funny how some MAGAs "have better things to do" than concern themselves about the worst Presidential corruption in US History. 

4 hours ago, Mavideol said:

surprised there are no magies involved in this post, maybe they (finally) came to the conclusion their master is a sociopath/psychopath, better later then never

 

My guess is they are nursing a beer and trying to process the Bubba thing... 

Yep, "things happen". Soon to be happening in the US???

Another day, another anti-Trump post, so boring. 

14 hours ago, Bacon1 said:

A major part of the White House visit focused on economic and defense cooperation, including a potential deal for F‑35 fighter jets and $1 trillion in Saudi investment.

What a hypocrite Trump is......wanting to stop all wars..... then selling fighter jets.. all about money with him and nothing else.. bring on the Epstein files and watch himself lie his way out of it.  

17 minutes ago, dutch boy said:

Another day, another anti-Trump post, so boring. 

Another day another betrayal of what the American ideal means to most Americans…there I fixed it for ya…you see most of us know the Saudis people are the ones responsible for 911 we believe in free speech not murder and bone saws.we are revolted by the obvious sucking up to the money displayed by trump he’s revolting to most of us.

Revolting, repugnant, abhorrent.

Has there ever been a public figure in US politics so utterly morally bankrupt as Trump, so totally devoid of any civilised values?

Answers on a one inch postcard please.

14 hours ago, Wingate said:

This was reported many years ago, so it's in the public space.

 

The intelligence assessment of who order Khashoggi's slaughter in not "highly likely", it's fact. There were SIGINT intercepts of conversations and messages.

 

For those who never saw the images, Khashoggi was indeed slaughtered. His limbs were cut off. His penis was cut off. The skin on his face was peeled. All of his parts were arranged in a gruesome "still art", with most of his face intact and splayed out next to his torso. The killers took images and sent them back to MbS as a sick "proof of death".

 

Trump was told about the intel and perhaps even shown the intercepted images of Khashoggi's body.

 

Trump's reaction to the reporter's question says everything one needs to know about Trump's (lack of) morality.

Correct. Trump has no character. No integrity. No decency. Something that seems to pass people by is that, the man has absolutely no class. He is an ignorant (comparing himself to Nelson Mandela is a recent act that reveals his lack of self awareness) loud-mouthed tasteless American, who is interested only in himself and no-one and nothing. 

 

He has no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. The stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

 

While Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing is his lack of humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, most don’t. And the world sees it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain they traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All their heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege. And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. 

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. 

 

Trump cops horror poll over Epstein, cost-of-living

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Jack Evans

President Donald Trump’s approval rating has plummeted to its lowest point of his second term, with a new poll revealing growing discontent among Americans over his handling of key issues.

Just 38 per cent of Americans approve of Mr Trump’s job performance, according to a Reuters/Ipsos four-day poll released this week.

The survey showed Mr Trump’s “overall approval sliding two percentage points since a Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted in early November,” the outlet reported.

The poll, which ended on Monday, 17 November, found 62 per cent of Americans disapprove of his actions. Contributing factors include his response to cost-of-living pressures and the controversy surrounding the Jeffrey Epstein files.

US politics live: Court urged to toss ‘spiteful Trump’ case | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site for latest headlines

3 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Trump cops horror poll over Epstein, cost-of-living

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Jack Evans

President Donald Trump’s approval rating has plummeted to its lowest point of his second term, with a new poll revealing growing discontent among Americans over his handling of key issues.

Just 38 per cent of Americans approve of Mr Trump’s job performance, according to a Reuters/Ipsos four-day poll released this week.

The survey showed Mr Trump’s “overall approval sliding two percentage points since a Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted in early November,” the outlet reported.

The poll, which ended on Monday, 17 November, found 62 per cent of Americans disapprove of his actions. Contributing factors include his response to cost-of-living pressures and the controversy surrounding the Jeffrey Epstein files.

US politics live: Court urged to toss ‘spiteful Trump’ case | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site for latest headlines

12 months late. Nobody cares. 2028 is not Trump.

 

In recent decades, extremism and terror has proliferated thanks to a very important sponsor: the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. One can’t understand the global system underpinning extremism without surveying the pivotal role played by the Saudi government as well as private organizations and individuals within the kingdom. In recent decades, the Saudis have spent up to an estimated $100 billion spreading Wahhabism and perpetuating the notion that they are Islam’s caretaker. Their methods to persuade and influence run the gamut and include the funding of mosques, schools, textbooks, imams, imam learning centers and exchanges, cultural institutions around the world.

 

MBS and the Saudis don’t simply want their extreme form of religious practice and belief to prevail. Religious forces in the kingdom, backed by the ruling family, want to destroy other, local traditions within Islam. To that end, they are rewriting history, erasing evidence of the past to favor their own narrative—a move that ideologically aligned extremists in many parts of the world have since copied.

 

The relationship between the Saudis and extremism is not merely one of affinity. The Saudi government and Saudi individuals have directly supported terrorist groups in the Middle East and beyond.

 

The face of evil:

 

 

23 hours ago, Bacon1 said:

He said, “things happen,” and criticized a reporter for raising the issue during the meeting. 

... or once you've seen one Arab, you've seen them all.

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

... or once you've seen one Arab, you've seen them all.

The family of the 9/11  and Lockerbie victims 

would disagree with you .

17 hours ago, Wingate said:

Realpolitik is for psychopaths.

Then all international politics is psycopathic. "Politics makes for strange bedfellows." IMO it's better to have Saudi Arabia on the side of the West rather than China or Russia and much better for stability in the Middle East. An other example of "politics makes for strange bedfellows" is Syria which is now being run by a terrorist yet gets support from the West.