U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday he is terminating all documents, including pardons, that he said his predecessor Joe Biden had signed using an autopen, a move that legal experts doubted would hold up in court.

The autopen is used to replicate a person's signature with precision, typically for high-volume or ceremonial documents. It has been employed for years by presidents of both major parties to sign letters and proclamations.

 

All rather childish and spiteful. I guess equally Democrats can reverse all Trump's Executive Orders if they gain power.

 

Trump says he's terminating any Biden pardons signed with autopen

I voted for that

Biden says he's terminating Trump - full stop.

Just to note, as there has been a recent comment that the Biden autopen pardons got cancelled, that President Trump's saying 'hereby' terminating all Biden autopen pardons "with no further force or effect" (as above) is really moot point until someone, upon receiving such pardon, has to be released from federal prison following a conviction or there is some new legal charge/indictment against someone, say Ms. Cheney, who has received a  pardon to any future specified legal morass.

 

Everything else is just hot air.
 

7 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Just to note, as there has been a recent comment that the Biden autopen pardons got cancelled, that President Trump's saying 'hereby' terminating all Biden autopen pardons "with no further force or effect" (as above) is really moot point until someone, upon receiving such pardon, has to be released from federal prison following a conviction or there is some new legal charge/indictment against someone, say Ms. Cheney, who has received a  pardon to any future specified legal morass.

 

Everything else is just hot air.
 

"really moot point until someone, upon receiving such pardon, has to be released from federal prison following a conviction"

????

Trump has lost it, totally, if the Dems get back in, let's hope they put back in prison those Trump let out....

 

Sort of tit-for-tat, but I doubt Trump will get his way, anyone Judge should just larf at that silly ol' fool, Trump..😒

9 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

"really moot point until someone, upon receiving such pardon, has to be released from federal prison following a conviction"

????

Sorry -- it will be hard to determine whether Trump actually did terminate any Biden pardons until there is a test case.

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@theshu25

29 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Sorry -- it will be hard to determine whether Trump actually did terminate any Biden pardons until there is a test case.

Well, so far the Trump administration hasn't moved to carry out Trump's threat. I suspect it's an empty one. The supreme Court already ruled on this in a case called ex parte Garland

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Well, so far the Trump administration hasn't moved to carry out Trump's threat. I suspect it's an empty one. The supreme Court already ruled on this in a case called ex parte Garland

Seems to me the simple question here is, can a sitting president invalidate a prior president's pardon for any reason.

According to this article, 

 

 

Legal experts said the Constitution doesn’t require presidents to directly sign pardons or ban using a mechanical device for signatures. There is no constitutional mechanism for overturning pardons.

Revoking a prior president’s pardons would be unprecedented, and if people’s pardons are revoked, they could challenge the revocation in court, with legal precedent on their side. 

We rate the statement False.

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/dec/04/donald-trump/revoke-pardon-biden-autopen/

Trump says he's terminating Biden pardons signed with autopen

 

The SCOTUS will have the final say on that topic.

2 minutes ago, connda said:

Trump says he's terminating Biden pardons signed with autopen

 

The SCOTUS will have the final say on that topic.

Will SC? That would require DoJ to prosecute someone for pardoned crimes. Do you really think they'll try that, knowing they themselves could be next?

What a vindictive piece of <deleted> he is ,going after his perceived enemies,

he wants to concentrate on ruining the country ,I was going to say running,

but that's what he's doing ,

 

regards Worgeordie

 

14 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Will SC? That would require DoJ to prosecute someone for pardoned crimes. Do you really think they'll try that, knowing they themselves could be next?

If the President didnt know or or sign the pardon, it wasnt a pardon. You need to start applying logic and thinking through matters yourself.

And knowing they could be next didnt stop deranged democrats waging nonsensical and highly coordinated lawfare against Trump, which sure as heck backfired spectacularly. Not the sharpest tools in the shed.

4 hours ago, transam said:

Trump has lost it, totally, if the Dems get back in, let's hope they put back in prison those Trump let out....

 

Sort of tit-for-tat, but I doubt Trump will get his way, anyone Judge should just larf at that silly ol' fool, Trump..😒

Sounds mature and sensible🤣

58 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Will SC? That would require DoJ to prosecute someone for pardoned crimes

Yes and when the motion is filed by the defense based upon the pardon received, the prosecution reply may be we are contending that, at the time the pardons were issued, President Biden was non compos mentis and wouldn't be able to tell you what planet he was on.

7 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Yes and when the motion is filed by the defense based upon the pardon received, the prosecution reply may be we are contending that, at the time the pardons were issued, President Biden was non compos mentis and wouldn't be able to tell you what planet he was on.

Which would be a claim that can't be proven. There's options to remove a mentally unfit president.

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Which would be a claim that can't be proven. There's options to remove a mentally unfit president.

Even before that, the Court may say in THIS court we are not in any position to invalidate a Constitutional right of the President so that matter stays until some further Court says: We agree. Biden was nuts. Pardons invalid.

1 hour ago, worgeordie said:

What a vindictive piece of <deleted> he is ,going after his perceived enemies,

he wants to concentrate on ruining the country ,I was going to say running,

but that's what he's doing ,

 

regards Worgeordie

 

When you lefties had power, did you go after your "perceived enemies"?

 

Hmm. So why act so suprised and angry now? Were you fuming when Navarro and Bannon actually went to prison? Pure political prisoners under your man Biden yet you were happy with it. You made your bed, now lie in it.

 

Anyway, surely you believe Fauci, Hunter and the rest are pure as the driven snow. If they did nothing wrong there is no need for them to be afraid. Right?

 

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

When you lefties had power, did you go after your "perceived enemies"?

 

Hmm. So why act so suprised and angry now? Were you fuming when Navarro and Bannon actually went to prison? Pure political prisoners under your man Biden yet you were happy with it. You made your bed, now lie in it.

 

Anyway, surely you believe Fauci, Hunter and the rest are pure as the driven snow. If they did nothing wrong there is no need for them to be afraid. Right?

 

Catching any fish?how’s the harvest on the farm lately?this whole bit of nonsense is just Donald’s attempts at distraction…..Dec 19th is nigh…..wonder what’s he going to pull then?