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Man shot dead by federal agents in Minneapolis

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Rep. governors are joining in.

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  • brewsterbudgen
    brewsterbudgen

    Don't you mean "fascism"?

  • Why don't people just let law enforcement do their job. They are arresting felons, murderers, child rapist, rapist, real hard core criminals. Why are they trying to protect people that live to harm th

  • Bday Prang
    Bday Prang

    Oh pleeeeease stop it , Stop it now for gods sake,

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1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Yes they should. But that wasn't the case in this incident.

This particular incident perhaps.

Why was the man approaching ICE?

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

This particular incident perhaps.

Why was the man approaching ICE?

Was he committing a crime?

8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Should citizens attacking law enforcement be condemned or not?

Same answer.

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1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

You dont think the dude started it by interfering in an arrest? Thats one fact thats clear from the videos.

What arrest !! he was trying to help a woman who was pushed by ICE even so does that warrent the death penalty!! and 10 shots !! 10 shots !!!! thats an execution !!!

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

But that was not the question

Yes. But if you answer the question YES, the follow-up- question will be:

Then why (insert contradiction)?

And if you answer the question NO, the the follow-up- question will be:

Then why (insert contradiction)?

11 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Clearly you have never owned a gun LOL

  1. Wrong.

  2. If you can't come up with better diversions then better not post anything at all.

52 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Nice try , but i never mentioned homosexuality So why did you feel the need to ? perhaps you should continue your extensive research ,with a little more of an introspective approach to it Once you have learned to read what people have actually written in their posts of course

You are assuming that I am not openly gay or bisexual , and are ,also insinuating I am ashamed of my latent sexuality, which you have also decided that I choose to conceal based purely on my inability to determine a persons gender

Is it possible to be more offensive and less woke I actually doubt it

So, would you care to explain exactly what it was that upset you? The whole world is filled with so-called weird looking people. Get used to it because you will be seeing more of them.

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

This particular incident perhaps.

Why was the man approaching ICE?

Are you blind !!!!!! he was backing away from the fat Ice agent approching him

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Why would he need a firearm at a peaceful protest?

No one was questioning the legality of his carrying a firearm. I do however, question the common sense and intelligence of a person to carry a firearm at a supposed peaceful protest. It is also legal to carry a fire extinguisher, and carving knives, and a hatchet too. However the need for these items at the activity is doubtful. Why does one need a firearm if one is attending a protest rally? Ever hear of personal responsibility, responsible firearm handling? One does not put a firearm in any place where it can be stolen or easily lost. The protests are well known for mad scrambles with the loss of protestor backpacks and other bags. Protestors also get robbed.

Your emotions are running wild. Who is the they that would have killed him regardless? Do you really believe that the agents wake in the morning looking for opportunities to kill people?

apparently it would not have mattered if he had a gun or not. It guns have had NOTHING to do with the reasons that ICE agents have shot numerous protestors without proper cause and no oversight.

9 minutes ago, JerryM said:

I have not. But I am only suggesting there may be other reasons for his carrying the gun other than with the intent to cause havoc.

Bro, I have carried concealed in the US legally for 50 years and the last thing you want to do as a lawful gun owner is put yourself in a situation where that gun may cause a problem. That means you AVOID trouble and interfering in a Federal Law Enforcement Operation means trouble.

4 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Are you blind !!!!!! he was backing away from the fat Ice agent approching him

Amazing how some people only see what f

5 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Are you blind !!!!!! he was backing away from the fat Ice agent approching him

Some people only see what they want to see; whatever serves their agenda.

Just now, Yagoda said:

Bro, I have carried concealed in the US legally for 50 years and the last thing you want to do as a lawful gun owner is put yourself in a situation where that gun may cause a problem. That means you AVOID trouble and interfering in a Federal Law Enforcement Operation means trouble.

OK So I guess means his intent,per White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller, Pretti was a "would-be assassin" who "tried to murder federal law enforcement" and labeled him as a "domestic terrorist" via FOX News.

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

yes

I haven't

then show them unless you really cant because a. they were not riots, just protest and b. there were equal numbers regardless of Party in office

Respectful Warning

Anybody considering joining in with the activities of the anti ICE protestors needs to be aware that following recent events , interference with any ICE officers could lead to the very real possibility of being shot multiple times by out of control psycho officers.

Further more whilst we embrace your right to protest, and recognise the moral high ground you occupy , getting yourself shot will help nobody, Not the illegal immigrants you seek to protect, Not your children who will be bereft of a parent , and not yourself as you will be unable to support our cause from beyond the grave.

Further more the fascist government will have your details and will probably target your surviving family and friends

This is soooo obviously wrong/ illegal / immoral but regrettably that in no way protects you from the very real danger. So whilst we fully support your sentiments and your willingness to stand up for the vulnerable, and admire your enthusiastic hatred of the current nazi president for your own sakes please restrict your legal protests to areas more appropriate and conducive to you own personal safety

You have been warned

6 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

What arrest !! he was trying to help a woman who was pushed by ICE even so does that warrent the death penalty!! and 10 shots !! 10 shots !!!! thats an execution !!!

What right does he have to interfere with Law Enforcement WHILE ARMED?. If he was an "Legal Observer" as folks where screaming, why wasnt he just observing?

Just now, Bday Prang said:

Respectful Warning

Anybody considering joining in with the activities of the anti ICE protestors needs to be aware that following recent events , interference with any ICE officers could lead to the very real possibility of being shot multiple times by out of control psycho officers.

Further more whilst we embrace your right to protest, and recognise the moral high ground you occupy , getting yourself shot will help nobody, Not the illegal immigrants you seek to protect, Not your children who will be bereft of a parent , and not yourself as you will be unable to support our cause from beyond the grave.

Further more the fascist government will have your details and will probably target your surviving family and friends

This is soooo obviously wrong/ illegal / immoral but regrettably that in no way protects you from the very real danger. So whilst we fully support your sentiments and your willingness to stand up for the vulnerable, and admire your enthusiastic hatred of the current nazi president for your own sakes please restrict your legal protests to areas more appropriate and conducive to you own personal safety

You have been warned

Beautiful. I doubt the fanatics will listen, death helps their cause.

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

How exactly do you expect law enforcement officers to behave when they are mobbed by screaming violent protestors who may well be armed ,

They have a job to do, its known as enforcing the law . Of course people should not be getting shot , but in the highly charged atmosphere of these events bad things can and will happen.

It would be just the same if the police were constantly attacked whilst doing their duty,

The protestors have a right to protest, they do not have a right to obstruct law enforcement officers carrying out their duties, There is no need for them to be anywhere near the areas where the ICE agents are operating they can and should protest in more appropriate areas. and if they had done nobody would have been shot

The behaviour of the protestors is nothing short of anarchy, if they insist on continuing in this manner then more people will no doubt be shot. The only solution would be to provide the ICE agents with a military escort of sufficient magnitude to protect the agents and keep the protestors at a safe distance , as much for their own protection as anything else

perhaps you should educate yourself to the actual shootings done and what the victims where actually doing. Law enforcement officers are trained or supposed to be on laws , conduct and crowd control among other areas that dont seem to be in place

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10 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What right does he have to interfere with Law Enforcement WHILE ARMED?. If he was an "Legal Observer" as folks where screaming, why wasnt he just observing?

The observers and camera people appear to be domestic terrorists to me.

If they were really non-participants they wouldn't be in the crowds running around in the crowd.

Maybe ICE should be placing snipers on rooftops, taking out the domestic terrorists.

14 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

The laws they are enforcing are those related to the detention and removal of illegal immigrants , which they are enforcing , or at least attempting to enforce and uphold , they are not "the police" and are not responsible for maintaining public order.

Rightly or wrongly, those who choose to interfere with ICE are, as has been seen twice in a matter of days, very likely to be shot I think we can all agree on that, denial would be pointless.

Those who feel the need to show their outrage , are of course entitled to the views they enthusiastically express from behind the safety of their keyboards, although if they really cared at all for the safety of the protestors , they might consider warning potential protestors of the dangers involved in such direct action, .

I have not read one post that has warned of the inherent dangers of this behaviour so in effect they are encouraging further action of this nature from people who are obviously unable to see the dangers for themselves,

I will seek to redress this in my next post

DHS policy clearly state that upholding public safety is the responsibility of ICE. Go and read it up.

The Minnesota police force has policy not to interfere with ICE criminal investigation. The chain of command policy for Minnesota police to be involved in crowd control should be from top but none came around. This is telling as the non involvement of trained crowd control officers gave ICE a free rein on how they deal with public safety.

Why?

Citizens has the 2nd amendment rights to protest. The shooting was unprovoked and disproportionate. Why the government refused to investigate?

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

You have been warned


Ooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What right does he have to interfere with Law Enforcement WHILE ARMED?. If he was an "Legal Observer" as folks where screaming, why wasnt he just observing?

Did he interfere with Law Enforcement ?? must have been in ur dreams Nothing like that happened LOOK at the video without ur blinkers on

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Exactly Dan the man

Nothing wrong with mass immigration to the USA

Let them ALL in ,

Your very intelligent Dan

Let billions in ...billions

your posting moronic crap that has nothing to do with the topic or my post. stay on topic

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5 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Respectful Warning

Anybody considering joining in with the activities of the anti ICE protestors needs to be aware that following recent events , interference with any ICE officers could lead to the very real possibility of being shot multiple times by out of control psycho officers.

Further more whilst we embrace your right to protest, and recognise the moral high ground you occupy , getting yourself shot will help nobody, Not the illegal immigrants you seek to protect, Not your children who will be bereft of a parent , and not yourself as you will be unable to support our cause from beyond the grave.

Further more the fascist government will have your details and will probably target your surviving family and friends

This is soooo obviously wrong/ illegal / immoral but regrettably that in no way protects you from the very real danger. So whilst we fully support your sentiments and your willingness to stand up for the vulnerable, and admire your enthusiastic hatred of the current nazi president for your own sakes please restrict your legal protests to areas more appropriate and conducive to you own personal safety

You have been warned

You have been advised that freedom to protest is an 1st amendment constitutional rights. What you post is what the Mullahs did in Iran.

Phil Scott, the Republican governor of Vermont, took the rhetoric further. In a post on X, he said Trump should pause the immigration operations to reset the focus on criminals. He also urged Congress and the courts to “restore constitutionality” in the absence of presidential action.

“It’s not acceptable for American citizens to be killed by federal agents for exercising their God-given and constitutional rights to protest their government,” he wrote. “At best, these federal immigration operations are a complete failure of coordination of acceptable public safety and law enforcement practices, training, and leadership. At worst, it’s a deliberate federal intimidation and incitement of American citizens that’s resulting in the murder of Americans.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-surging-venezuela-raid-then-010513139.html

5 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

You have been advised that freedom to protest is a 2nd amendment constitutional rights. What you post is what the Mullahs did in Iran.

Note: The right to protest is protected by the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech and peaceful assembly, not the Second Amendment. The 2nd Amendment is the right to bear arms.

11 minutes ago, JerryM said:

Yes. But if you answer the question YES, the follow-up- question will be:

Then why (insert contradiction)?

And if you answer the question NO, the the follow-up- question will be:

Then why (insert contradiction)?

Which would result in an actual discussion, rather than just refusing to answer over and over and spewing nonsense. But a real discussion requires thought and effort, while spewing nonsense does not.

I can say the shooting of this poor guy was wrong, and condemn the agents, and I can also condemn the people that are causing all the mayhem to start with. Both things can be true at the same time.

But for the interference with law enforcement, none of this would be happening.

If we are going to have rule of law, someone have to enforce it, and mistakes are going to be made.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Which would result in an actual discussion, rather than just refusing to answer over and over and spewing nonsense. But a real discussion requires thought and effort, while spewing nonsense does not.

You like to ask these When did you stop beating your wife? questions as oft used modus operandi.

2 minutes ago, JerryM said:

Note: The right to protest is protected by the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech and peaceful assembly, not the Second Amendment. The 2nd Amendment is the right t

Thanks . Corrected.

11 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

The observers and camera people appear to be domestic terrorists to me.

If they were really non-participants they wouldn't be in the crowds running around in the crowd.

Maybe ICE should be placing snipers on rooftops, taking out the domestic terrorists.

"If they were really non-participants they wouldn't be in the crowds running around in the crowd."

Easy on the Guiness there! Crowds running around in crowds makes my head spin!😆

BTW, what does Farage say about all this? Has he received his talking points from Moscow yet?

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