Just now, JerryM said:

Oh. I've been outed.

Your sexual orientation never crossed my mind.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Your sexual orientation never crossed my mind.

that's clever. I'll have to tell that other Jerry guy.

Just now, JerryM said:

that's clever. I'll have to tell that other Jerry guy.

Even a blind hog gets an acorn every now and then.

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

they seem poorly trained to me.

and i wouldn't go a mile close to them.

me neither , so why does anybody? especially "selfless doctors" and "innocent moms" are they really so much braver than us , or simply stupid

50 minutes ago, JerryM said:

The video of which you watched 5 seconds took place at a Target where the ICE gang led by Greg Bovino himself went to use the restrooms. Target stores esp. in MN HQ state are not locations to be avoided. The encounter resulted in the arrest of 2 US Citizen employees. Later released.

that has nothing to do with anything I have said

Just now, Bday Prang said:

that has nothing to do with anything I have said

Get used to that...

1 hour ago, Wingate said:

The brown shirt stormtroopers and the fascist scumbucket Trump are now selectively erasing the Bill of Rights, suspending the 4th Amendment and making the 2nd Amendment only applicable to MAGAs. 250 years of Freedom are evaporating. Time to fight back.

Well, Castle Doctrine allows one to use whatever force needed to stop unlawful entry into one's place of residence, and the stormtroopers now, per the fascist Trump, can enter homes unannounced and without a warrant. That is illegal and gives residents every right to gun the suckers down.

Shoot the scumbuckets. They're going to shoot anyway and likely kill the homeowner, as they're poorly trained psychopaths, so take as many of them as time and your weaponry allows.

The 2nd Amendment still allows Americans to load up on semi auto rifles like AR-15s using everything from .223/5.56 NATO to 300 blackout (which can be in subsonic form so that it kills the intruders but can be suppressed so as not to upset the good neighbors). Bumpstocks are legal again, too, so put one of those on the AR-15 and you can unload a 30 rd mag in three seconds. Add a 100 rd mag to make sure you get as many of the illegal intruders as possible. Handguns like the FN Five-seveN have a range of ammo, some of which is armor piercing and can get through the vests worn by the stormtroopers.

If a homeowner survives, he must doxx the dead....name and addresses. Turn up the heat; melt the ICE.

If the stormtroopers violate the Bill of Rights, time to send them to Hell. The only good fascist is a dead fascist.

Everything I have written here is legal according to the Constitution written by and supported by true patriots. Know your rights. Fight the fascists.

YES, and one like me thinks that DJT should be paying attention to the US Constitutional rights of people in the US since he has taken the oath to protect that document twice now but seems to forget following it altogether in his goal of being crowned KING of the world! IMHO anyway and I a VN vet, am totally ashamed of the leadership of my country!

3 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Why would he need a firearm at a peaceful protest?

No one was questioning the legality of his carrying a firearm. I do however, question the common sense and intelligence of a person to carry a firearm at a supposed peaceful protest. It is also legal to carry a fire extinguisher, and carving knives, and a hatchet too. However the need for these items at the activity is doubtful. Why does one need a firearm if one is attending a protest rally? Ever hear of personal responsibility, responsible firearm handling? One does not put a firearm in any place where it can be stolen or easily lost. The protests are well known for mad scrambles with the loss of protestor backpacks and other bags. Protestors also get robbed.

Your emotions are running wild. Who is the they that would have killed him regardless? Do you really believe that the agents wake in the morning looking for opportunities to kill people?

He may usually carry it in his backpack when he goes to work but in any case, 10 shots AFTER the other ICE officer had taken the weapon out of the backpack. There were numerous other ICE officers forcing the guy onto the ground and he NEVER held the gun nor threatened any of them! Totally a brutal and unnecessary MURDER! IMHO but then the WH and secretary of Homeland security have already excused the officers in question and are demanding only a federal investigation so that if an officer is found guilty then DJT can pardon him and the states and the families' of the victims have no way getting any legal satisfaction against the murderers! A very scary situation there and will also affect the entire US IMHO.

oh i see "georgina" tried to join in this thread, is there anything sadder than a pathetic troll making his sad inflammatory comments....... and getting no response at all lol

2 minutes ago, Presnock said:

YES, and one like me thinks that DJT should be paying attention to the US Constitutional rights of people in the US since he has taken the oath to protect that document twice now but seems to forget following it altogether in his goal of being crowned KING of the world! IMHO anyway and I a VN vet, am totally ashamed of the leadership of my country!

He may usually carry it in his backpack when he goes to work but in any case, 10 shots AFTER the other ICE officer had taken the weapon out of the backpack. There were numerous other ICE officers forcing the guy onto the ground and he NEVER held the gun nor threatened any of them! Totally a brutal and unnecessary MURDER! IMHO but then the WH and secretary of Homeland security have already excused the officers in question and are demanding only a federal investigation so that if an officer is found guilty then DJT can pardon him and the states and the families' of the victims have no way getting any legal satisfaction against the murderers! A very scary situation there and will also affect the entire US IMHO.

What is really scary is that some on here make excuses for these ICE thugs......😬

1 minute ago, Presnock said:

YES, and one like me thinks that DJT should be paying attention to the US Constitutional rights of people in the US since he has taken the oath to protect that document twice now but seems to forget following it altogether in his goal of being crowned KING of the world! IMHO anyway and I a VN vet, am totally ashamed of the leadership of my country!

He may usually carry it in his backpack when he goes to work but in any case, 10 shots AFTER the other ICE officer had taken the weapon out of the backpack. There were numerous other ICE officers forcing the guy onto the ground and he NEVER held the gun nor threatened any of them! Totally a brutal and unnecessary MURDER! IMHO but then the WH and secretary of Homeland security have already excused the officers in question and are demanding only a federal investigation so that if an officer is found guilty then DJT can pardon him and the states and the families' of the victims have no way getting any legal satisfaction against the murderers! A very scary situation there and will also affect the entire US IMHO.

Are you going to provide any examples of Trump violating the Constitution?

Let me guess, there are too many to list.

3 minutes ago, Presnock said:

it altogether in his goal of being crowned KING of the world!

Thats a new one, of course you have a link ?

3 minutes ago, Presnock said:

10 shots AFTER the other ICE officer had taken the weapon out of the backpack.

But did the other officers even see him take the weapon out?

He walks away from the scene with Alex's gun, but I'm not sure anyone saw him. Why would he walk away and not just yell to everyone that he has the gun?

Did he do it on purpose?

It's all around completely incompetent police work.

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

oh i see "georgina" tried to join in this thread, is there anything sadder than a pathetic troll making his sad inflammatory comments....... and getting no response at all lol

I would rather listen to him than you, a supporter of the ICE killers, Trump's S.S..............😬

Even President Clinton has buried folk like you.........😒

4 hours ago, gargamon said:

Minnesota is an open carry state.

It's time:

A pic of the rednecks and hillbillies on parade!!

The fatal shooting of a nurse by ICE agents may have been prompted by one of the officers “negligently” firing the victim’s gun, it has emerged.

Video footage shows Alex Pretti’s gun being taken from him by a border agent as he lies on the ground while being beaten by other officers.

As the agent runs away with Pretti’s 9mm pistol in his right hand, a gunshot can be heard in the footage posted online.

That, in turn, may have “spooked” the other Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents at the scene into firing a number of rounds at Pretti, 37, as he lay unarmed and defenceless on the ground.

The series of events raises serious questions about the training and discipline of the 3,000 federal agents who have been drafted into Minnesota by the Trump administration to round up illegal immigrants in the state.

A 2025 study showed that police officers were 11 times more likely to fire their weapons if they had already heard gunfire as part of a phenomenon called “contagious fire”.

Critics will argue that the number of shots fired at Pretti suggests that ICE agents deployed in Minneapolis were not trained to tackle crowd control in city environments.

Misfire of victim’s gun could have triggered fatal ICE shooting

On 1/25/2026 at 9:05 AM, dinsdale said:

He was licensed to carry a concealed weapon. Question is why would you take a 9mm semi-automatic weapon with two extra high capacity magazines to a protest where you are going to actively agitate. Concealed holders are trained to disclose to law enforcement. It would seem this didn't happen. What happened was he fought back. He was definitely disarmed before he was shot but what actually happened can't be seen. Sadly more is to come as long as the "Gestapo" rhetoric continues, non-peaceful protests are allowed to continue.

And the victim blaming rolls on. No! He didn’t fight back. Numerous video evidence shows that he held an empty hand in the air and a phone in the other. This was seconds after he came to assist a lady who’d been assaulted by ICE thugs. He was then murdered.

Anyone who supports these actions is very sick in the head.

Trump appointed California Assemblyman Bill Essayli to be the U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California in April 2025.

"If you approach law enforcement with a gun, there is a high likelihood they will be legally justified in shooting you," the prosecutor wrote. "Don’t do it!"

That set off alarm bells for gun policy journalist Stephen Gutowski, who wrote, "This is an insane claim."

"You're arguing merely being armed in public is justification for police killing you?" he asked. "That's well beyond even the dubious claims DHS is making."

When a commenter told Gutowski, "It's called risk assessment," the journalist replied, "It's called a public statement from a US Attorney's account. And the standard he articulates is nuts if you care at all about lawful carry."

Gun expert alarmed by US attorney's 'completely insane claim' about DHS shooting

8 minutes ago, xylophone said:

A pic of the rednecks and hillbillies on parade!!

not representative of trump supporters.

they're only a small minority.

nobody likes these people.

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

You dont think the dude started it by interfering in an arrest? Thats one fact thats clear from the videos.

President Clinton has buried you............

Given the references to Darwinism in this forum, it’s worth remembering that Darwin was, first and foremost, a geologist who studied fossils — not modern justifications for violence.

10 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

And the victim blaming rolls on. No! He didn’t fight back. Numerous video evidence shows that he held an empty hand in the air and a phone in the other. This was seconds after he came to assist a lady who’d been assaulted by ICE thugs. He was then murdered.

Anyone who supports these actions is very sick in the head.

A few on here are..........🤕

Bday Prang said:

Nice try , but i never mentioned homosexuality So why did you feel the need to ? perhaps you should continue your extensive research ,with a little more of an introspective approach to it Once you have learned to read what people have actually written in their posts of course

You are assuming that I am not openly gay or bisexual , and are ,also insinuating I am ashamed of my latent sexuality, which you have also decided that I choose to conceal based purely on my inability to determine a persons gender

Is it possible to be more offensive and less woke I actually doubt it

It was the psychologists who came to that conclusion, not me, and another telltale sign was the misuse/absence of punctuation.........!!

On 1/25/2026 at 2:43 AM, Patong2021 said:

Why bring a firearm to a peaceful protest where law enforcement are confronted? Yes, he had a permit to carry, but why take a handgun to a protest Another needless gun related death. The USA is tearing itself apart.

According to an amendment of the US constitution, everybody is allowed to carry hand- or other guns.

But.. why FIRST take away that handgun, and in a split second later, execute him with 8-10 shots ?

Only in Iran, Russia, North Korea the police can walk away by that.

1 minute ago, Harry Vibhavadi said:

According to an amendment of the US constitution, everybody is allowed to carry hand- or other guns.

But.. why FIRST take away that handgun, and in a split second later, execute him with 8-10 shots ?

Only in Iran, Russia, North Korea the police can walk away by that.

Probably Trump's ICE team employing thugs.................🤫

15 minutes ago, Dan747 said:

While right-leaning media frequently highlights individual cases to argue for stricter policies, some mainstream outlets have focused on broader data suggesting that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native-born citizens. 

Media Coverage and Key Cases (2020–2025)
High-profile cases that have received significant media attention include:

• Laken Riley (2024): The murder of the 22-year-old nursing student in Georgia, allegedly by a Venezuelan illegal immigrant, became a major national story, fuelling debates on immigration, police, and security.

• Rachel Morin (2023): The murder of a Maryland mother of five, allegedly by an illegal immigrant from El Salvador, received widespread coverage.

• NYPD Times Square Assault (2024): A caught-on-video assault of police officers by several immigrants in Times Square was heavily covered.

• ICE "Worst of the Worst" Releases (2025): The Department of Homeland Security and various media outlets reported on the arrests of numerous illegal immigrants with past convictions for child rape, sexual assault, and homicide. 

Right-Wing Media: Tends to focus on individual incidents of violent crime to highlight what they describe as a "migrant crime wave" caused by porous border policies.

Mainstream Media: Often covers these cases but also highlights studies indicating that immigrants, including those in the country illegally, do not commit crimes at higher rates than native-born Americans.

American media coverage of Americans raped, assaulted and killed by illegal immigrants over the last five years - Google Search

35 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

me neither , so why does anybody? especially "selfless doctors" and "innocent moms" are they really so much braver than us , or simply stupid

If you're feelin' lucky punk, then you can go around taunting ICE like this guy.

28 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But did the other officers even see him take the weapon out?

He walks away from the scene with Alex's gun, but I'm not sure anyone saw him. Why would he walk away and not just yell to everyone that he has the gun?

Did he do it on purpose?

It's all around completely incompetent police work.

totally agree, but obvious to me, the ICE officers have been told do whatever you want, the secretary of homeland security and the president will protect you. IMHO

31 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Thats a new one, of course you have a link ?

I forgot to add at the end IMHO anyway! Sorry if you haven't been reading what I have read/seen/heard.

33 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Are you going to provide any examples of Trump violating the Constitution?

Let me guess, there are too many to list.

guessing is not necessary. but until you read the US Constitution, you wouldn't understand anyway IMHO.

34 minutes ago, transam said:

What is really scary is that some on here make excuses for these ICE thugs......😬

Not only on here but even the White House and cabinet members, and while some in Congress may complain, nothing substantial seems to be coming out from them IMHO.