Anyone Know Anything About The Yamaha Tzm/tzr, And Other 2 Strokes Available In Los?

[Tzr2503ma]

Picked up this black Belle R in KK..Well put together little machine..First underbone in my collection.

[yankee99]

Nice bike!! What else did they have left in stock?

[Tzr2503ma]

Not that much of interest.. ZR 120 minus stickers 34000...Tiara S 38000..I paid 29000 for the Belle R.

[Dutchbike]

Congrats on the new addition to your collection.

A belle Belle R

How did you like that shop??

[Tzr2503ma]

Nice little bike in very good condition.I won't take the plastic off the seat and mirrors..Nice people running the shop..Thank you for the tip...Manager says they have a 1 month old TZM in blue if anyone is interested..Making a weekend away of it..One night in the Pullman.

[Tzr2503ma]

This is available in KK for 50000 baht..Good color with all the stickers taken off..I'm told farang owner trading up.

[casualbiker]

This is available in KK for 50000 baht..Good color with all the stickers taken off..I'm told farang owner trading up.

Is it a 250 or 150. Does it have a legal green book... ohhhhhh

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[Tzr2503ma]

150 with book

[casualbiker]

150 with book

Ok. That's what thought

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[ClareQuilty]

Picked up this black Belle R in KK..Well put together little machine..First underbone in my collection.

I've looked at those Belle Rs in that shop so many times - they appeal more to me than any of his other old-new bikes. One still sees loads of Belle Rs on the road here in Isaan - incredibly durable and well-made bikes. Just one question - is it a 3, 4, or 5 speed?

[Tzr2503ma]

I'm looking at mine now my living room where it will live..Yes lots still on the road.Don't make them like this anymore.Its a 4 speed.

[ll2]

I'm looking at mine now my living room where it will live..Yes lots still on the road.Don't make them like this anymore.Its a 4 speed.

Haha, sure, your living room will be like a garage soon!

[VocalNeal]

On the subject of two strokes in LOS. Let us not forget the Honda Phantom TA150. Same engine as NSR but tuned for torque if one can use torque in a two-stroke thread!

[ClareQuilty]

On the subject of two strokes in LOS. Let us not forget the Honda Phantom TA150. Same engine as NSR but tuned for torque if one can use torque in a two-stroke thread!

Is the Honda Phantom TA150 a two stroke? How can I 'tune for torque' my two stroke bikes? Though I like two-strokes for their simplicity and greater durability/reliability, I prefer torque over high-end power.

[casualbiker]

On the subject of two strokes in LOS. Let us not forget the Honda Phantom TA150. Same engine as NSR but tuned for torque if one can use torque in a two-stroke thread!

Is the Honda Phantom TA150 a two stroke? How can I 'tune for torque' my two stroke bikes? Though I like two-strokes for their simplicity and greater durability/reliability, I prefer torque over high-end power.

The older 150 was a 2t that looked like a 4t.. you tune the expansion chamber. I remember a LONG time ago riding a ta150 around samui. It wasn't until about 5 years later that I found out they are 2t.

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[Tzr2503ma]

Kenny Roberts had a 2 stroke with torque..Check out the brakes.

[ktm jeff]

Did you know KR had a switch on the handlebars that would cut out one cylinder on the turns. Early traction control !. Fearsome beast.

[ClareQuilty]

Is the Honda Phantom TA150 a two stroke? How can I 'tune for torque' my two stroke bikes? Though I like two-strokes for their simplicity and greater durability/reliability, I prefer torque over high-end power.

The older 150 was a 2t that looked like a 4t.. you tune the expansion chamber. I remember a LONG time ago riding a ta150 around samui. It wasn't until about 5 years later that I found out they are 2t.

I see! Very interesting. What about those old Suzuki two strokes one sees with the straight pipe exhausts, I think they are Suzuki RCs:

http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/suzuki-history/1991/1991_RC100D_black_450.jpg

I wonder if that straight pipe was about producing torque over horsepower? (I'm really keeping my eyes peeled for one of these antiques, but they're extremely hard to find).

[Tzr2503ma]

Yamaha shop in KK has a few new old Yamaha mate 100s..Basically the Yamaha version of that Suzuki two stroke.

[VocalNeal]

How can I 'tune for torque' my two stroke bikes? Though I like two-strokes for their simplicity and greater durability/reliability, I prefer torque over high-end power.

The quick answer is port height. Maybe I should have said NSR150 engine reconfigured for marginally more torque.

The older 150 was a 2t that looked like a 4t..

I don't know how one makes a 2T look like a 4T? If you mean it has a plastic engine cowl then yes it does but ...

Quick answer to tell them apart, the two stroke has a radiator as it is water cooled.

Edited July 30, 2014 by VocalNeal

[casualbiker]

How can I 'tune for torque' my two stroke bikes? Though I like two-strokes for their simplicity and greater durability/reliability, I prefer torque over high-end power.

The quick answer is port height. Maybe I should have said NSR150 engine reconfigured for marginally more torque.

The older 150 was a 2t that looked like a 4t..

I don't know how one makes a 2T look like a 4T? If you mean it has a plastic engine cowl then yes it does but ...

Quick answer to tell them apart, the two stroke has a radiator as it is water cooled.

" I don't know how one makes a 2T look like a 4T"

Like this . It may be a plastic cowl but it really doesn't look like a 2 stroke.

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[VocalNeal]

Like this . It may be a plastic cowl but it really doesn't look like a 2 stroke.

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Maybe to the uninitiated, but to anyone who knows about the two different models, that is the 2 stroke because it has a radiator.

If one is riding behind one or is passed by one in the street the smell would tell you it is 2T

[casualbiker]

Like this . It may be a plastic cowl but it really doesn't look like a 2 stroke.

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Maybe to the uninitiated, but to anyone who knows about the two different models, that is the 2 stroke because it has a radiator.

If one is riding behind one or is passed by one in the street the smell would tell you it is 2T

Dohhh. I know. I was just saying they did a good job of the disguise!

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[ClareQuilty]

Yamaha shop in KK has a few new old Yamaha mate 100s..Basically the Yamaha version of that Suzuki two stroke.

Yes I've looked at those a few times. I actually do have one old Yamaha Alpha, lovely little bike I picked up for 6,000 - hasn't needed a single repair in the year or two I've owned it. I've a special interest in Suzukis because they're so rare, and because the sole Suzuki I own (an old Akira I got for 4,500) runs so darn well.

Edited July 30, 2014 by ClareQuilty

[VocalNeal]

Like this . It may be a plastic cowl but it really doesn't look like a 2 stroke.

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Maybe to the uninitiated, but to anyone who knows about the two different models, that is the 2 stroke because it has a radiator.

If one is riding behind one or is passed by one in the street the smell would tell you it is 2T

Dohhh. I know. I was just saying they did a good job of the disguise!

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Well. I don't think they tried to make it look like a 4T or disguise the fact it is 2T . That would assume the 4 is better than 2. I think they just tried to make it look bigger as the cylinder of a WC engine is quite small compared to an AC one or to hide all the gubbins.

Edited July 31, 2014 by VocalNeal

[Pizzarunner]

any new Rxz arround thailand?

[Dutchbike]

Not in Khon Kean, check out this Thread:http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/733254-which-would-you-buy-if-you-could-only-have-on-nos-2-stroke-kawasaki-or-yamaha/page-2?hl=%2Bnos+%2Bbikes#entry7978324

There details about A shop in BKK which as a lot of NOS bikes.

[Jdiddy]

Ive got one of these with a dead engine in CM, wondering what to do with it

Engine just stopped while going down the highway, was having overheating issues at the time

[papa al]

Should be able to get it fixed cheap.

Maybe 3-4000baht piston/bore job and fix root prob.

[thaiguzzi]

Any of you guys know if there was ever a 250 or 350 twin sold over here, legal, legit with a book? I think i've seen some water cooled fully faired Honda's in the past. I'd be interested in one for a project, preferably Yamaha, but i doubt they exist, ditto air cooled, but i doubt they exist, and by the time the project was finished, it would have no plastic on it, so fairings, condition of, etc, are of no consequence to me.