Wife poses as teen, snares pervert husband

A SUSPICIOUS wife caught her pensioner husband chatting up girls for internet sex by posing online as a teenager on a computer in the room next door to his.

Cheryl Roberts, 61, suspected her husband David was logging on to chatrooms to lure schoolchildren into sex.

So the mother-of-two used another computer in their home in Bridgend, South Wales, to pretend she was a 14-year-old - and snared her husband in the act, The Daily Mail reports.

Cardiff Crown Court heard she hooked up with Roberts, 68, when he was in his study. He was completely unaware he was chatting to his own wife in the living room next door.

Former pub landlord Roberts propositioned the girl asking her to meet up for sex.

The court heard Mrs Roberts was so shocked by her husband's behaviour she brought in police who seized his computer.

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I wonder what came first, the pervert or the bitch

The pervert!

See photos of Mr and Mrs Roberts in this article in The Sun:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/...as-girl-14.html

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Maestro

During interviews Roberts denied having sex with any young girls but admitted he was "prepared to do so".

He admitted engaging in sexual activity in the presence of a child, and making and possessing illegal images.

Oh my. So, this makes HER a bitch? If I thought my husband was luring underage girls for sex I don't know that the POLICE would be the first people I would be contacting.

I wonder what came first, the pervert or the bitch

That's a bit harsh. I don't blame her one little bit. Her husband was the type of guy to masturbate on webcam thinking a 14 yo girl was watching.

Yeah, bad crocodile, down boy.

As my one liner above has stirred up some here, I will explain my thoughts on the matter.

While I do not condone child molestation in any way, I am opposed to the usual crowd who advocate "cut off his balls and string him from the nearest lampost." These predators should be tried and penalised within the Justice system. There is no room for vigilantism or entrapment over the net by private citizens. The dangers of such actions are manifest.

If the woman was incapable of confronting her husband directly, and wished the full weight of the law to come down on him, she should have gone directly to the Police and turned over the computer for analysis. To attempt entrapment by pretending to be a 14 yo could have had disasterous, and dangerous consequences. I don't know what sort of marriage they had before this episode, but I feel there were severe problems, not neccesarily one way - hence my comment.

(before anyone else says it - if a member of my family was the victim, the perpertrator would face severe consequences. My moral attitudes start outside my immediate family. )

Well, from me anyway, Old Croc, I meant just what I said.... "a bit harsh". I can see where you're coming from and reckon she would be a bit of a mole to live with.

I take it for granted that nobody here would condone a sexual, paedophylic predator.

Sorry, but i think the wife did not do a wrong thing. She tried to gain some definitive proof of what she suspected he was doing. She did it in a way that wasnt detrimental to anyone (except her husband of course). How could have actions have disastrous, and dangerous consequences? Im honestly not goading in any way, i just would like to understand why it could be thought of in that way.

Until i can understand why what she did could have been wrong, then imo if her actions prevented one possible assault from this man, what she did was worth it.

I cannot see how being concerned that her husband is a sexual predictor could possibly make her a bitch. I just cant..sorry.

Let me give you 3 scenarios, all the same apart from one ingredient.

I catch my wife (of 20 years) soliciting sex from young boys on the internet.

I love my wife very much. I'm upset. I talk to her, try to understand where this came from.....try to fix it.

My marriage has been drifting these past few years, although I'm still fond of my wife. This came as a shock, but thinking back on the lack of intimacy over the past few years......maybe not too surprising. "Hey come on old girl. stop that crying.....we need to talk about this".

I hate my wife. I just knew the bitch was up to something. Well she's for it now. Give her some rope watch her hang herself, hahaha...priceless. Hope the Judge throws away the key.

I'm with Old Croc on this one. This was just revenge. The wife was glad this happened.

Regards.

If he was solicitating sex from women i could personally better understand that scenario teletiger.

I think people are presuming that the women wanted some kind of revenge, where it may be that she was genuinely concerned about young girls being the victim of a sex predictor.

But yes, i guess im of the thinking that grown men and women should not prey on underage kids. So i have little sympathy for him. I would hope he will get some psychological help..as im not part of the "cut off his balls" brigade. But in regards to being prosecuted, no, i dont feel sympathy.

In court, Roberts admitted engaging in sexual activity in the presence of a child and making and possessing illegal images.

If this was your daughters, how would you feel about it? How would you feel if one of your kids was sexually abused in some way by an adult? He was in possession of "illegal images"..can we assume that was child pornography then? The thought "bitch" or "revenge" didnt enter my head. The thought "protect kids" did.

Maybe I'm strange. My first thought would be for my partner, our relationship, our future. My last thought would be for the stupid kid on the other side of the screen, with their stupid parents, who didn't put a net nanny on the computer.

The word Harcourt missed was shrew. If the silly old sod needed counselling before, he sure needs it now.

I have no sympathy over him getting caught whatsoever. But his wife's vindictive, back-stabbing behaviour, absolutely disgusts me.

Her concern you say is for the children. Ok, You've got the goods on him, you can force him to stop and get counselling.......or else. But no, she needed to get her revenge on him, to totally humiliate him.

Haha.....sounds like she needs more counselling than him.

Regards.

From what I can see the two of them deserve each other.

Hmm topic moves from the a guy who admits to being a pedo to his wife, who is being labled a bitch/shrew blah blah, for getting proof of him being a dirty pedo & being rightly disgusted enough to get him done for it. Got some really odd people posting on thaivisa.

I don't blame her at all.....but I think some people despise the sneaky entrapment that occured.

What they are overlooking, or placing a lesser emphasis on, is that the entrapment was deserved, and resulted in a paedo being caught.

One thing I don't agree with is from Teletiger, "..You've got the goods on him, you can force him to stop and get counselling.......or else. But no, she needed to get her revenge on him, to totally humiliate him...."

A guy that masturbates to a 14 year old girl, with a view to grooming her for a sexual encounter, does not deserve the chance to get counseling and "change". He deserves to be taken off the street and removed from society, and to recieve all the humiliation that the public metes out.....THEN he can get counseling and try to reform.

I got arrested once for dealing to a youth that tried it on with my 9 year old daughter. It was a very close call for my daughter who managed to escape. Of course I was released later, but they had to take me in after what I did to that bastard.

Maybe those without daughters are hindered in empathising with those of us who despise and hate child molesters....Take it from me, please; these predators do not deserve any sympathy...they make conscious decisions to do what they do, and they KNOW it is wrong.

If someone knows what they are doing is wrong I believe there is a chance for rehabilitation but from what I've read these people genuinely believe they are indulging in a "normal" sexual activity and are a victimised group.

To me this means that there is no place for them in society, I don't hold with the "castrate them with red hot pliers" crowd, surprisingly those who have suffered at their hands as children seldom belong to this group, but if the only way to protect our young is to lock them away permanently, so be it.

That's an interesting perspective. I did not consider the ones that can't help themselves.

Those that are cognisant of the wrongness of their actions, are reformable. That makes sense, and I agree that society should make some sort of effort to rehabilitate them.

The other side of that coin is that BECAUSE they did what they did, KNOWINGLY, they deserve to be punished. Consequences of actions.

I can agree that some that can't help themselves, can't help themselves and do need to be removed from society.

I also think that morals are only a matter of opinion......therefore I don't see them committing a moral crime....but they are still knowingly committing a crime against the law....they still KNOW that a crime is being committed, regardless of their moral standards.

I can't see it as a case of "not being able to help themselves". Any rational person is responsible for his actions. The criminally insane aren't, pedophiles may not fall into this category and therefore are capable of suppressing their sexual urges. If they cannot, then they are subject to the law.

There's an interesting story in last weeks "The Australian"; a pilot was released from a Queensland prison after serving three years for sexually assaulting a child in New Guinea. He'd been convicted by the Australian Federal Police using new laws covering Australians overseas.

His wife produced flight evidence that he had been a thousand kilometers away from the child at the time of the offence. The AFP hadn't produced this at his trial so an appeal's court overturned his conviction.

He had been in the mainstream prison system for three years as a "known" pedophile; no doubt suffering whatever additional punishments his fellow inmates could dream up. Bashings, food urinated in, they can be quite inventive.

While he was on remand the AFP froze his bank accounts and his wife claims their daughter died in PNG because she had no money for medicine.

Even after release, there will be people who will never believe he is innocent... where there's smoke etc.

His life is trashed.

I suppose he finds some consolation in the fact he wasn't castrated with red hot pliers by outraged forum members though.

I suggest that, to quote you, "... these people genuinely believe they are indulging in a "normal" sexual activity and are a victimised group....", are people that can't help themselves. If they genuinely believe that sex with a child is ok....I say that is "can't help themselves".

But of course, I may be putting my own moral opinion on it.

False accusation and wrongfull imprisonment is certainly another side to it too.

I can see why the justice system will err on the side of caution....it's a hard one, but ultimately society has to protect it's children.

I think maybe many people in society just arent aware of the real and long term damage pedophiles can do.

Some time back i did some research into the mindset of Pedophiles and yes, there are some who truly believe children to be sexually mature. Even believing that the child initiates and sexually provicates. For some it is about power and control. Of course Pedophiles know this thinking is different from the norm. They are also aware that its prosecutable.

One Pedophile can damage many lives, even indirectly by obtaining child pornographic images and videos.

Ultimately children should be protected. In all honestly, i think that woman would have been a bitch if she hadnt done something. Unfortunately too many prefer to turn a blind eye. Often family members will prefer to not have the local community know when its happening within the home. A *slap on the wrist* style attitude does actually exist..crazy as this sounds..with the pedophile just being thought of as *dirty uncle bill*or whatever. What message do we give to kids if we knowingly let these things happen to them! Sorry to veer off..im just saying that i believe its out duty to protect kids from things like this. Our thoughts should be with them first and foremost.

I think in most western societies adequate legislation is in place to punish pedophiles. To me the policy that some crimes are worse than others is evident in the sentencing. Car thieves do less time than armed robbers.

The sentences for serious assaults on children are approaching those for manslaughter, repeat offenders are locked away longer as the courts realise that it wasn't an isolated incident and society need to be protected from these people.

I agree that the wife was justified in what some would see as entrapment. To have gone to the police with suspicions probably wouldn't have done any good, evidence had to be produced. Most people will say he should have got a serious term of imprisonment, he should be grateful he didn't and hopefully the public disgrace will be sufficient deterrent.

Hmm topic moves from the a guy who admits to being a pedo to his wife, who is being labled a bitch/shrew blah blah, for getting proof of him being a dirty pedo & being rightly disgusted enough to get him done for it. Got some really odd people posting on thaivisa.

I have found that some will defend the most depraved of conduct, in whatever setting, especially if there's a buck to be made by such defense.

I'm curious to know people's opinion on a teenage girl who wants to have sex with an older man, or a boy with an older woman. Is the older person who participates automatically a paedophile and what then is the teenager ? Who is guilty and of what ?

Edit: realised I should express some view on the above. Remember the recent case of the young but big for his age student and the teacher in Thailand ? I'd say there have to be some cases where the punishment doesn't fit the circumstances of the crime, but the law is "one size fits all" by necessity.

the man filmed himself masturbating in front of a camera and thought it was going to a 14 year old girl. and yet his wife is a bitch. astonishing.

Regardless of how sexually precocious a young teenager may be for a mature adult to take advantage of that is just that, taking advantage. one of them is supposed to be the responsible adult.

one of them is supposed to be the responsible adult.

A fair point sbk.

Sibeymai, to answer your question; The adult should always be accountable for their actions imo.

A teenager is still a child, in the eyes of the law & usually mentally & emotionally.

To whoever find fault in the wife;

In this case the guys wife suspected him & sought out proof that he was a pedo, it could he gone the other way, she might have found out that it wasn't him trawling sites for children to have sex with & no harm done. Relief all round.

What if she has approached the police before knowing for sure and it turned out that he was innocent?.

As another poster said, mud sticks & this guys reputation could have been destroyed...... but yeah, she is a totally big bitch for getting proof before accusing a potentially innocent man & then once confirmation was made that he was in fact attempting to find children to groom for sex, actually stopping a pervert from abusing a child!!!! :D

I'm curious to know people's opinion on a teenage girl who wants to have sex with an older man, or a boy with an older woman. Is the older person who participates automatically a paedophile and what then is the teenager ? Who is guilty and of what ?

Edit: realised I should express some view on the above. Remember the recent case of the young but big for his age student and the teacher in Thailand ? I'd say there have to be some cases where the punishment doesn't fit the circumstances of the crime, but the law is "one size fits all" by necessity.

It's why there's an age of consent. Probably globally.

I'll probably open a can of worms mentioning this one..but in the main forum: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Needed-Rape-...up-t314432.html

14 years old and violently raped. Quite likely not the only girl he did this too (and yes i know the parents are to blame of course..but the man committed the act.). One adults moment of selfish lust takes away so much from someones life. Of course, having parents who would do that to their daughter would leave her shattered also. I truly hope she gets the resources she needs.

If my wording seems overly dramatic..well....its not something i find easy to remain calm about.

Thailand has an age of consent law and regardless of popular expat opinion it's quite strictly enforced. My wife's niece was involved in such a case at 14, the young man in question spent time in jail before being released when the girl begged to be allowed to marry him. I think he was 19 at the time but they have a baby now and seem quite happy. I know this is not relevant but I can't help gossiping.

Dropping a 14 year old girl into the cauldron that is Pattaya has to be considered in a different light. There's no chance of charges being laid because unless the rapist is apprehended immediately he's gone. Traffickers like the aunt do get caught occasionally but it's fairly rare.

The problem is not Thailand's laws but Pattaya and every other sex tourism area. The money poured into these places is huge and buys all the law you want.