What we are now discussing is our opinion of her, which I doubt will change much if either of us produce videos.

That is very likely true as I have watched her on TV many times and do not have a negative opinion of most of her comments.

Also, since the issue of physically attacking a woman, as it is one of the behaviors of Mr.Gibson, is apart of this discussion you also implied that one or many of us here beat our wives.

What a line of total B.S. Now I'm accusing people here of being wife-beaters? That's quite a stretch for you to make. It's very clear that when you are backed into a corner, you make sh*t up. Me, I'm taking the words you actually write and pointing out where you are wrong. Whereas you use your wild imagination to come up with wild implications and attribute them to others. You have already done that several times in a short time on this thread. You must have taken a course on what to say when you are losing an argument. It does make me wonder though what a disagreement in your household might be like...

thaibebop: Honey, I don't think this chicken is cooked enough.

Wifey: Really? I cooked it the same as I always do.

thaibebop: What?! The same as always? If the chicken isn't cooked all the way and you have been cooking it the same way that means that you have been trying to murder me with salmonella all these years?! You must think you're going to get my Cabbage Patch Doll collection that is worth millions! You hate those dolls so you must want to sell them. What would you need that much money for? You must have a secret boyfriend on the side! You want to buy him a flashy sports car or something?! You murderous, scheming, unfaithful,...

Wifey: Geez, give it a rest already. Why can't you remember to take your medication?

Therefore, we have an individual who is defending a wife beater, racist and bigot, by suggestion that I am a wife beater, racist, and bigot. My, aren't you a clever one.

He is also a very successful actor and director. Does that mean I am suggesting you are the same? For the record, based on your posts here (which is all I know about you) I don't think you are a racist or bigot. I am sure you aren't half as bright as you like to think of yourself as being. If you were, you wouldn't have to make up so much and claim the other person is implying it.

lets keep it civil boys.

thaibebop: Honey, I don't think this chicken is cooked enough. Wifey: Really? I cooked it the same as I always do. thaibebop: What?! The same as always? If the chicken isn't cooked all the way and you have been cooking it the same way that means that you have been trying to murder me with salmonella all these years?! You must think you're going to get my Cabbage Patch Doll collection that is worth millions! You hate those dolls so you must want to sell them. What would you need that much money for? You must have a secret boyfriend on the side! You want to buy him a flashy sports car or something?! You murderous, scheming, unfaithful,... Wifey: Geez, give it a rest already. Why can't you remember to take your medication?

This sounds pretty much like any liberal explaining why they are "right'".

Whenever I see a beautiful woman I am reminded of what someone said about every beautiful woman being someone’s nightmare.

Seven years is the limit so I hear.

I avoid beautiful woman. I smile and say thanks for the offer and compliment other men on their wife or GF or whatever but deep down inside I make the sign of the cross the same as when I see a leper.

The latest on the Mel thing, it turns out he just wanted a hummer before his bath. Not getting it he threatened to burn down the house.

Now that’s extreme. I’ve been there and done that and admit a hummer is better before the hot tub than afterward but still, burning down the house is extreme.

People criticize Pattaya a lot but it sure has some advantages. I can’t imagine anyone living there burning down their house because they couldn’t get a hummer. Hum/hummer kind of funny in Thai actually. There are a lot of big mansions in Pattaya and none of them are more than a couple of minutes away from a hummer supplier. And there is quite a choice. One could be quite picky and never use the same supplier or even genre twice in a row for months on end, maybe even years.

Both Tiger and Mel would have saved themselves a lot of money and headaches by living in Pattaya. Most men, exceptions for TV posters, would save a bunch of cash living in Pattaya.

Whenever I see a beautiful woman I am reminded of what someone said about every beautiful woman being someone's nightmare.

Seven years is the limit so I hear.

I avoid beautiful woman. I smile and say thanks for the offer and compliment other men on their wife or GF or whatever but deep down inside I make the sign of the cross the same as when I see a leper.

The latest on the Mel thing, it turns out he just wanted a hummer before his bath. Not getting it he threatened to burn down the house.

Now that's extreme. I've been there and done that and admit a hummer is better before the hot tub than afterward but still, burning down the house is extreme.

On the surface it might seem that simple. In reality, it's more complex and depends on the house and the hummer. I'd have to see the house and get the hummer first before jumping to any hasty judgements. Maybe she really is that good and I'm sure he's got multiple houses. She could even take it as a compliment. "Hiney, a hummer from you is worth far more than my house". Of course, now he'll likely have to pay much more than what the house cost.

Also, since the issue of physically attacking a woman, as it is one of the behaviors of Mr.Gibson, is apart of this discussion you also implied that one or many of us here beat our wives.

What a line of total B.S. Now I'm accusing people here of being wife-beaters? That's quite a stretch for you to make. It's very clear that when you are backed into a corner, you make sh*t up. Me, I'm taking the words you actually write and pointing out where you are wrong. Whereas you use your wild imagination to come up with wild implications and attribute them to others. You have already done that several times in a short time on this thread. You must have taken a course on what to say when you are losing an argument. It does make me wonder though what a disagreement in your household might be like...

thaibebop: Honey, I don't think this chicken is cooked enough.

Wifey: Really? I cooked it the same as I always do.

thaibebop: What?! The same as always? If the chicken isn't cooked all the way and you have been cooking it the same way that means that you have been trying to murder me with salmonella all these years?! You must think you're going to get my Cabbage Patch Doll collection that is worth millions! You hate those dolls so you must want to sell them. What would you need that much money for? You must have a secret boyfriend on the side! You want to buy him a flashy sports car or something?! You murderous, scheming, unfaithful,...

Wifey: Geez, give it a rest already. Why can't you remember to take your medication?

Therefore, we have an individual who is defending a wife beater, racist and bigot, by suggestion that I am a wife beater, racist, and bigot. My, aren't you a clever one.

He is also a very successful actor and director. Does that mean I am suggesting you are the same? For the record, based on your posts here (which is all I know about you) I don't think you are a racist or bigot. I am sure you aren't half as bright as you like to think of yourself as being. If you were, you wouldn't have to make up so much and claim the other person is implying it.

Laughable, truly. Your words were careless and instead of just changing them you come up with this. All of your posts defending him have all neglected the violence as well. Why ignore this? Why come up with a little play, trying to be funny and insulting at the same time? I feel like I am talking to high schoolers. Enough.

thaibebop: Honey, I don't think this chicken is cooked enough. Wifey: Really? I cooked it the same as I always do. thaibebop: What?! The same as always? If the chicken isn't cooked all the way and you have been cooking it the same way that means that you have been trying to murder me with salmonella all these years?! You must think you're going to get my Cabbage Patch Doll collection that is worth millions! You hate those dolls so you must want to sell them. What would you need that much money for? You must have a secret boyfriend on the side! You want to buy him a flashy sports car or something?! You murderous, scheming, unfaithful,... Wifey: Geez, give it a rest already. Why can't you remember to take your medication?

This sounds pretty much like any liberal explaining why they are "right'".

No, UG it sounds just like conservative tactic. Ignore the issue and insult and try to be funny. Demean the other person in the most convenient way and try to laugh them off. It's what every conservative does, I know many of them, and they just like love blending any issue that can with their politics. Doesn't matter what it is. "Of course you would like that movie, you're a liberal." It's exhausting.

Also, since the issue of physically attacking a woman, as it is one of the behaviors of Mr.Gibson, is apart of this discussion you also implied that one or many of us here beat our wives.

What a line of total B.S. Now I'm accusing people here of being wife-beaters? That's quite a stretch for you to make. It's very clear that when you are backed into a corner, you make sh*t up. Me, I'm taking the words you actually write and pointing out where you are wrong. Whereas you use your wild imagination to come up with wild implications and attribute them to others. You have already done that several times in a short time on this thread. You must have taken a course on what to say when you are losing an argument. It does make me wonder though what a disagreement in your household might be like...

thaibebop: Honey, I don't think this chicken is cooked enough.

Wifey: Really? I cooked it the same as I always do.

thaibebop: What?! The same as always? If the chicken isn't cooked all the way and you have been cooking it the same way that means that you have been trying to murder me with salmonella all these years?! You must think you're going to get my Cabbage Patch Doll collection that is worth millions! You hate those dolls so you must want to sell them. What would you need that much money for? You must have a secret boyfriend on the side! You want to buy him a flashy sports car or something?! You murderous, scheming, unfaithful,...

Wifey: Geez, give it a rest already. Why can't you remember to take your medication?

Therefore, we have an individual who is defending a wife beater, racist and bigot, by suggestion that I am a wife beater, racist, and bigot. My, aren't you a clever one.

He is also a very successful actor and director. Does that mean I am suggesting you are the same? For the record, based on your posts here (which is all I know about you) I don't think you are a racist or bigot. I am sure you aren't half as bright as you like to think of yourself as being. If you were, you wouldn't have to make up so much and claim the other person is implying it.

Laughable, truly. Your words were careless and instead of just changing them you come up with this. All of your posts defending him have all neglected the violence as well. Why ignore this? Why come up with a little play, trying to be funny and insulting at the same time? I feel like I am talking to high schoolers. Enough.

Show where I have defended Mel Gibson or take your trollish self someplace else.

What a line of total B.S. Now I'm accusing people here of being wife-beaters? That's quite a stretch for you to make. It's very clear that when you are backed into a corner, you make sh*t up. Me, I'm taking the words you actually write and pointing out where you are wrong. Whereas you use your wild imagination to come up with wild implications and attribute them to others. You have already done that several times in a short time on this thread. You must have taken a course on what to say when you are losing an argument. It does make me wonder though what a disagreement in your household might be like...

thaibebop: Honey, I don't think this chicken is cooked enough.

Wifey: Really? I cooked it the same as I always do.

thaibebop: What?! The same as always? If the chicken isn't cooked all the way and you have been cooking it the same way that means that you have been trying to murder me with salmonella all these years?! You must think you're going to get my Cabbage Patch Doll collection that is worth millions! You hate those dolls so you must want to sell them. What would you need that much money for? You must have a secret boyfriend on the side! You want to buy him a flashy sports car or something?! You murderous, scheming, unfaithful,...

Wifey: Geez, give it a rest already. Why can't you remember to take your medication?

Therefore, we have an individual who is defending a wife beater, racist and bigot, by suggestion that I am a wife beater, racist, and bigot. My, aren't you a clever one.

He is also a very successful actor and director. Does that mean I am suggesting you are the same? For the record, based on your posts here (which is all I know about you) I don't think you are a racist or bigot. I am sure you aren't half as bright as you like to think of yourself as being. If you were, you wouldn't have to make up so much and claim the other person is implying it.

Laughable, truly. Your words were careless and instead of just changing them you come up with this. All of your posts defending him have all neglected the violence as well. Why ignore this? Why come up with a little play, trying to be funny and insulting at the same time? I feel like I am talking to high schoolers. Enough.

Show where I have defended Mel Gibson or take your trollish self someplace else.

Perhaps our young untraveled friend could show us where anybody has defended Gibson's actions.

Your troll statement says it all.

Mel Gibson is poised to quit the US after selling his mansion near New York.

The disgraced Lethal Weapon star, who faces allegations of violence from his Russian former girlfriend, sold the mock Tudor property, known as Old Mill Farm, for £16 million – £10 million less than the asking price.

Gibson has also put his Malibu home, Lavender Hill Farm, on the market for £10 million, according to a property newsletter.

He has told friends that he will move back to his native Australia with his ex-wife Robyn, who still supports him.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1295658/Mel-Gibson-leaves-States-selling-mansion-cut-price.html#ixzz0u0SB3Zki

Gibson followers are going to want to read this one --

http://www.slate.com/id/2260937/

Mel Gibson Isn't Just an Angry NarcissistHis tirades are the distilled violence, cruelty, and bigotry of right-wing Catholic ideology.

Gibson followers are going to want to read this one --

http://www.slate.com/id/2260937/

Mel Gibson Isn't Just an Angry NarcissistHis tirades are the distilled violence, cruelty, and bigotry of right-wing Catholic ideology.

In a series of ultra-violent propaganda movies, from Braveheart to The Patriot, Gibson has represented the English as a generally foul tribe.

He's not all bad.

Gibson followers are going to want to read this one --

http://www.slate.com/id/2260937/

Mel Gibson Isn't Just an Angry NarcissistHis tirades are the distilled violence, cruelty, and bigotry of right-wing Catholic ideology.

In a series of ultra-violent propaganda movies, from Braveheart to The Patriot, Gibson has represented the English as a generally foul tribe.

He's not all bad.

No, he's just the actor in pap designed to thrill and outrage audiences with the IQ's of well worn flip-flops, who's knowledge of world history, geography and politics is infantile at best and remain so xenophobic that they insist their internal sports competitions are called " World " championships.

Is that any worse than a nation of football hooligans?

Is that any worse than a nation of football hooligans?

Urban myth.

We may have invented it, but the UK is now properly ( some say over ) policed in terms of football, with just about every other country playing the game ahead of us in terms of organised violence. France, Italy, Spain, Greece and all of the former Eastern Bloc plagued by the hooligan culture. Pretty safe to go to any game in the UK now, with the " organized" punch-ups left to those who wish to participate far from the grounds.

Perhaps you would like to talk us through the riots and wanton destruction heaped on irony of ironies upon the winning city in your little basketball competition every year? Or perhaps those educated students who destroy their towns after winning the odd varsity american football game?

Is that any worse than a nation of football hooligans?

Urban myth.

We may have invented it, but the UK is now properly ( some say over ) policed in terms of football, with just about every other country playing the game ahead of us in terms of organised violence. France, Italy, Spain, Greece and all of the former Eastern Bloc plagued by the hooligan culture. Pretty safe to go to any game in the UK now, with the " organized" punch-ups left to those who wish to participate far from the grounds.

Perhaps you would like to talk us through the riots and wanton destruction heaped on irony of ironies upon the winning city in your little basketball competition every year? Or perhaps those educated students who destroy their towns after winning the odd varsity american football game?

The riots in America after championships used to be few and far between with some people taking advantage of the crowds and celebration to grab some new stuff from a shop window. Then about 10 years ago, drunken college students got into the act. I have no idea where this comes from except that it's just "kids today". Like when they had the 40th Anniversary of Woodstock and the crowds sexually abused women, rioted, and burned the place down. Talk about irony.

Sad

Really spoils the whole thing for the genuine fan.

Is that any worse than a nation of football hooligans?

Urban myth.

How about all the ones who don't bother with waiting for a game?

Is that any worse than a nation of football hooligans?

Urban myth.

How about all the ones who don't bother with waiting for a game?

Watching them is one of Pattaya's finest attractions.........

Technically, I don't think it qualifies as an "urban myth" if it used to be true but has since changed.

What??? Could this really be possible?

"Sheriff investigating Mel Gibson's ex for extortion"

Article here: http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2010-07-21-mel-gibson_N.htm

What??? Could this really be possible?

"Sheriff investigating Mel Gibson's ex for extortion"

Article here: http://www.usatoday....el-gibson_N.htm

Extortion might make her guilty of trying to take financial advantage of Mel's rage problems, but it doesn't let Mel off the hook. His lawyers will keep him out of jail, not sure if hers will if she is guilty. BTW - I know Russian women pretty well and listening to how calm she is on the tapes it is an obvious set-up. hel_l hath no fury like a Russian (or Thai) woman scorned. She knew what he was like and she was ready when he went off. Don't be surprised to find an old Russian "boyfriend" is the real mastermind behind it.

Then there is Oliver Stone's latest. Many would consider this much more controversial than Mel's childish ravings.

What think you?

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Oliver Stone: 'Jewish-Dominated Media' Prevents Hitler from Being Portrayed 'in Context'

By Alana Goodman (Bio | Archive)

Sun, 07/25/2010 - 21:03 ET

Director Oliver Stone belittled the Holocaust during a shocking interview with the Sunday Times today, claiming that America's focus on the Jewish massacre was a product of the "Jewish domination of the media."

The director also defended Hitler and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and railed against the "powerful lobby" of Jews in America.

Stone said that his upcoming Showtime documentary series "Secret History of America," seeks to put Hitler and Communist dictator Joseph Stalin "in context."

"Hitler was a Frankenstein but there was also a Dr Frankenstein. German industrialists, the Americans and the British. He had a lot of support," Stone told reporter Camilla Long during the interview, which can be found behind the paywall on the Sunday Times' website.

Remainder of article here: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/alana-goodman/2010/07/25/oliver-stone-jewish-dominated-media-prevents-hitler-being-portrayed-c#ixzz=

Then there is Oliver Stone's latest. Many would consider this much more controversial than Mel's childish ravings.

What think you?

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Director Oliver Stone belittled the Holocaust during a shocking interview with the Sunday Times today, claiming that America's focus on the Jewish massacre was a product of the "Jewish domination of the media."

That much is true. In one of my mass comm classes 25 years ago we were told that around 75% of the writers, producers and directors in NY & Hollywood were Jewish. Of course that influences what we see. If there had been more Ukrainians, the American public would know more about Stalin's forced famine of the early 1930's which resulted in 7 to 10 million deaths.

The director also defended Hitler and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and railed against the "powerful lobby" of Jews in America.

Just more proof that some of the most well known liberals are deluded. There are TONS of books, articles, movies and documentaries done by people who were not Jewish.