You are also persisting with your silly semantic angle over the word "country".

In other words, it was not a country and you can not answer the questions which would prove it was. About the closest you can come is to say that it was part of Syria at one time and never a separate entity or a seperate people and the land was mostly owned by Arabs in other places.

Then answer my question about how many Israelis, the very same Israelis that settle upon confiscated Palestinian land and confiscated Palestinian homes in EJ, can claim Israeli ancestry for more than 2 or 3 generations?

Again, there are no accurate statistics and you can not answer that same question about the so-called "Palestinians" either.

I notice that you did not attempt to answer even more question that would prove that an Arab Palestine ever existed.

There has never been an Arab country called "Palestine" so your map is nonsense. Jordan is the closest thing to it, but they don't want their Muslim "brothers" there either.

Yes...never mind about the invention of the state of Israel.

I notice that you did not attempt to answer even more question that would prove that an Arab Palestine ever existed.

There has never been an Arab country called "Palestine" so your map is nonsense. Jordan is the closest thing to it, but they don't want their Muslim "brothers" there either.

Yes...never mind about the invention of the state of Israel.

Both Israel and Palesstine were invented by the UN, but the Arabs refused the deal, declared war on the Jews and were beaten.

So it goes.

Give it a rest. Read up on The British Mandate for how things were in 1922....and read up on history even further back. The land was known as Palestine, and was inhabited by Arabs centuries ago.

I've read plenty on the subject and if that pseudo - history link is an example of your vast reading on the Middle East, no wonder you get it all wrong...

Can you give me any proof that there was ever an independent country of Palestine?

A common misperception is that the Jews were forced into the diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 A.D. and then, 1,800 years later, suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years. A national language and a distinct civilization have been maintained.

The Jewish people base their claim to the land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham; 2) the Jewish people settled and developed the land; 3) the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people and 4) the territory was captured in defensive wars.

The term "Palestine" is believed to be derived from the Philistines, an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C., settled along the Mediterranean coastal plain of what is now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century A.D., after crushing the last Jewish revolt, the Romans first applied the name Palaestina to Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank) in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Arabic word "Filastin" is derived from this Latin name.

The Twelve Tribes of Israel formed the first constitutional monarchy in Palestine about 1000 B.C. The second king, David, first made Jerusalem the nation's capital. Although eventually Palestine was split into two separate kingdoms, Jewish independence there lasted for 212 years. This is almost as long as Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States.

Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in Palestine continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.

Many Jews were massacred by the Crusaders during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years. By the early 19th century-years before the birth of the modern Zionist movement-more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.

When Jews began to immigrate to Palestine in large numbers in 1882, fewer than 250,000 Arabs lived there, and the majority of them had arrived in recent decades. Palestine was never an exclusively Arab country, although Arabic gradually became the language of most the population after the Muslim invasions of the seventh century. No independent Arab or Palestinian state ever existed in Palestine. When the distinguished Arab-American historian, Princeton University Prof. Philip Hitti, testified against partition before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, he said: "There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history, absolutely not." In fact, Palestine is never explicitly mentioned in the Koran, rather it is called "the holy land" (al-Arad al-Muqaddash).

Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted:

We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.

In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine: "There is no such country [as Palestine]! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria."

The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nations submitted a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said "Palestine was part of the Province of Syria" and that, "politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity." A few years later, Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, told the Security Council: "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."

Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day War and Israel's capture of the West Bank.

Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution.

http://answers.yahoo...05180203AAgo4gf

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Source? You are full of broken links!

Anyway, they question if there was ever an independent Palestine is still not much of relevance. Lame argument by the Zio-supremacists to tell others that they don't exist.

Give it a rest. Read up on The British Mandate for how things were in 1922....and read up on history even further back. The land was known as Palestine, and was inhabited by Arabs centuries ago.

I've read plenty on the subject and if that pseudo - history link is an example of your vast reading on the Middle East, no wonder you get it all wrong...

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The Twelve Tribes of Israel formed the first constitutional monarchy in Palestine about 1000 B.C. The second king, David, first made Jerusalem the nation's capital. Although eventually Palestine was split into two separate kingdoms, Jewish independence there lasted for 212 years. This is almost as long as Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States.

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http://answers.yahoo...05180203AAgo4gf

I still haven't read everything on the subject, but if that pseudo - history is an example of your vast reading on the Middle East, no wonder you get it all wrong...

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Source? You are full of broken links!

Anyway, they question if there was ever an independent Palestine is still not much of relevance. Lame argument by the Zio-supremacists to tell others that they don't exist.

Blindly and ignorantly defending Israel at any cost.

I suggest posters be civil to one another. If not, this topic will go the way of the one in the news section.

I still haven't read everything on the subject

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Blindly and ignorantly defending Israel at any cost.

More pointless insults. No substance. You boys just can't answer any of the questions that would prove your point.

Anyway, they question if there was ever an independent Palestine is still not much of relevance.

Well there was never a country there and the land belonged to the absentee landlords who sold much of it to the Jews and the rest was given to them by the UN. That seems pretty relevant.

I really hope someone here attempts to answer these questions but we all know they will avoid them like the plague.

No one will answer it because it is silly to ask. Do a cross check and ask the same or similar things about Israel.

Silly why? Every single one of those questions can be answered about Israel except the one about the terrorist Arafat. - as he was the ONLY leader of the so-called Palestinians.

Israel is a real country. "Palestine" never was.

I rest my case.

Furthermore...stop wagging the dog....Do you want to press your point about the size of Israel and Israel's non-pushing of their religion as some sort of justification for Israel's illegal actions?

Furthermore...stop wagging the dog....Do you want to press your point about the size of Israel and Israel's non-pushing of their religion as some sort of justification for Israel's illegal actions?

Better Israel's "illegal' actions than the actual illegal actions of the self-proclaimed supporters of the Palestinian people.

Silly why? Every single one of those questions can be answered about Israel except the one about the terrorist Arafat. - as he was the ONLY leader of the so-called Palestinians.

Israel is a real country. "Palestine" never was.

...according to the sunday school history lessons taught in Moisheville, Iowa?

Silly why? Every single one of those questions can be answered about Israel except the one about the terrorist Arafat. - as he was the ONLY leader of the so-called Palestinians.

Israel is a real country. "Palestine" never was.

...according to the sunday school history lessons taught in Moisheville, Iowa?

You don't seem to be able to answer those questions that would prove that there was ever a country called Palestine, but they can all be answered about Israel.

Silly why? Every single one of those questions can be answered about Israel except the one about the terrorist Arafat. - as he was the ONLY leader of the so-called Palestinians.

Israel is a real country. "Palestine" never was.

...according to the sunday school history lessons taught in Moisheville, Iowa?

You don't seem to be able to answer those questions that would prove that there was ever a country called Palestine, but they can all be answered about Israel.

i am using your tactics which is "not answering questions but posting irrelevant remarks".

An exchange of personal attacks have been deleted. Please stay on topic and refrain from remarks about the character of posters.

i am using your tactics which is "not answering questions but posting irrelevant remarks".

You have been using this "tactic" in almost every single post since 2006.

i am using your tactics which is "not answering questions but posting irrelevant remarks".

You have been using this "tactic" in almost every single post since 2006.

Give it up General, telling them that Palestine has never been a country is like telling a 4-yr old there is no...[CAUTION! SPOILER!!]...Santa Claus.