Osama Bin Laden dead - USA has his body

[flying]

So clearly I was right and what you said was laughable.

If believing that comforts you then you are welcome to it.

Makes me wonder though if for instance.... when you want to buy a car do you rely on what you hear or what someone

tells you about that car? Do you base your purchase on TV ad's, magazines, forums? Then feel self righteous about

claiming that you are right or wrong with the wisdom you think you have about it. Without ever having actually investigated it yourself?

Or do you look into it objectively? Do you actually go see it, test drive it & formulate your own opinion?

How much more important than a car is the Constitution, your freedoms, your countries monetary policies, your countries foreign policies?

No need to reply as it is clear we think & come to conclusions differently & this dance of yours is..... as always circular.

Please excuse me if I no longer reply to it.

Edited May 13, 2011 by flying

[SteeleJoe]

Last try:

"If Ron Paul had been president soon enough there would never have been a OBL problem in the 1st place"

Your claim. Prove yourself right (and me wrong). Or even offer the slightest bit of support for your posit.

I'll check sometime tomorrow if I remember and will genuinely be pleased if you've actually got a tenable argument.

[SteeleJoe]

Flying:

I find myself feeling a bit sorry for you so let me help you out -- there's no point in you repeatedly telling me or implying I don't know enough about Ron Paul or that I have some sort of bias against him -- because my position has little to do with him.

If you had said, "If Ronald Reagan/Al Gore/Grover Cleveland/Bugs Bunny had been president soon enough there would never have been a OBL problem in the 1st place" it would have been no different.

It's my contention that there's not one single person who having become president would have meant we'd have had no "bin Laden problem". If I'm wrong and Ron Paul could have done it, I'd like to know about it.

Edited May 13, 2011 by SteeleJoe

[cdnvic]

SteelJoe and Flying, I'm growing weary of you two hijacking this thread to argue with each other. Try ignoring one another because your trading shots at each other is adding nothing to the conversation.

[FOODLOVER]

Porn found in bin Laden hideout, officials say

Fairly extensive collection consists of modern, electronically recorded video

He had a lot of American junk food as well.

Does Allah know he is kicking back watching porn with a bag of chips and coke all while watching his color TV by remote. Hand down his pants scratching his nuts( not sure if he does that with his right or left hand so it may not be him), you know the gig. So this guy murders thousands in the name of the KORAN or Allah, has committed or been in charge of more plots since, and when we track him down the argument is to read him his rights? Ten years and hundreds of millions spent, another 10 years for a trial.

We have a breed of terrier in the states called a Pitt Bull. When bred improperly and not handled correctly they can become vicious. There have been on occasion tragedies that occur when they are not pinned properly and people die. We dont try to catch them once they have committed the atrocity, we kill it as it might escape during capture killing more people.The dog that was Osama has been put down with a precision strike. Not by one of those bunker busters that would have leveled the town but by a bullet. Thus saving civilian casualties.

I do understand the argument that we are better than that and all that but COME ON MAN! The seals did not know if a hundred jihadists were going to jump out at any moment and the goal was to get Bin Laden. They did.

[SteeleJoe]

SteelJoe and Flying, I'm growing weary of you two hijacking this thread to argue with each other.

Didn't hijack anything. Responded to a post and asked for the person to support their claim.

My apologies.

[geriatrickid]

WTC building 7, controlled demolition ...

[media] edited to remove offensive media link image

Your conspiracy theory has been proven false. if you want to use this thread as an opportunity to promote a lie, you are misguided. There is not one reputable professional or academic body that supports the allegation of a controlled demolition. If you wish to spread lies, then please take it to another thread and hopefully another forum.

thank you.

Edited May 14, 2011 by geriatrickid

[metisdead]

Some more off topic conspiracy theory fantasy posts have been removed.

[Steely Dan]

Porn found in bin Laden hideout, officials say

Fairly extensive collection consists of modern, electronically recorded video

He had a lot of American junk food as well.

Does Allah know he is kicking back watching porn with a bag of chips and coke all while watching his color TV by remote. Hand down his pants scratching his nuts( not sure if he does that with his right or left hand so it may not be him), you know the gig. So this guy murders thousands in the name of the KORAN or Allah, has committed or been in charge of more plots since, and when we track him down the argument is to read him his rights? Ten years and hundreds of millions spent, another 10 years for a trial.

We have a breed of terrier in the states called a Pitt Bull. When bred improperly and not handled correctly they can become vicious. There have been on occasion tragedies that occur when they are not pinned properly and people die. We dont try to catch them once they have committed the atrocity, we kill it as it might escape during capture killing more people.The dog that was Osama has been put down with a precision strike. Not by one of those bunker busters that would have leveled the town but by a bullet. Thus saving civilian casualties.

I do understand the argument that we are better than that and all that but COME ON MAN! The seals did not know if a hundred jihadists were going to jump out at any moment and the goal was to get Bin Laden. They did.

This is fantastic news! The hypocrisy of this nihilistic death cult is there for all to see. 'A lion of Islam' As Meshaal the Hamas leader called him. My morbid curiousity would like to know what sort of porn he had a predeliction for but I suspect I know the answer - watch Fitna II when it's released if you need a hint.

[elcent]

WTC building 7, controlled demolition ...

[media] edited to remove offensive media link image

Your conspiracy theory has been proven false. if you want to use this thread as an opportunity to promote a lie, you are misguided. There is not one reputable professional or academic body that supports the allegation of a controlled demolition. If you wish to spread lies, then please take it to another thread and hopefully another forum.

thank you.

OK, for this post I'll PrtScn and keep it for further evidence.

The FBI didn't consider to put Bin Laden on the list over 9/11 http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists - for me professional enough.

If I can't reply to an offensive post and my posts get consantly deleted then everybody knows where these manipulation goes.

keep it up on topic about Ron Paul though if that is the topic. I don't know.

[chuckd]

Talking about porn, Bin Laden and conspiracy theories...

One of our more esteemed members mentioned that he thought the photo shown of Bin Laden was a fake because Bin Laden was left handed and he was using the remote control with his right hand. Ergo, the photo was fake and was part of the conspiracy.

Now that we know he watched porn, we also know what he was using his left hand for.

[elcent]

Pakistan condems the action of the Americans in their country. In an over 10 hour of parliamentary session and with the presence of high ranking top brass, the PM offered his resignation if asked for it. Nobody asked yet.

Only the secret service of Pakistan defended the actions.

[elcent]

Pakistan also threatens to cut off the supply lines to Afghanistan. They'll try to negotiate.

Hard to get anything from an almost bankcrupt Nation I guess.

[Exsexyman]

Porn found in bin Laden hideout, officials say

Fairly extensive collection consists of modern, electronically recorded video

He had a lot of American junk food as well.

Does Allah know he is kicking back watching porn with a bag of chips and coke all while watching his color TV by remote. Hand down his pants scratching his nuts( not sure if he does that with his right or left hand so it may not be him), you know the gig. So this guy murders thousands in the name of the KORAN or Allah, has committed or been in charge of more plots since, and when we track him down the argument is to read him his rights? Ten years and hundreds of millions spent, another 10 years for a trial.

We have a breed of terrier in the states called a Pitt Bull. When bred improperly and not handled correctly they can become vicious. There have been on occasion tragedies that occur when they are not pinned properly and people die. We dont try to catch them once they have committed the atrocity, we kill it as it might escape during capture killing more people.The dog that was Osama has been put down with a precision strike. Not by one of those bunker busters that would have leveled the town but by a bullet. Thus saving civilian casualties.

I do understand the argument that we are better than that and all that but COME ON MAN! The seals did not know if a hundred jihadists were going to jump out at any moment and the goal was to get Bin Laden. They did.

This is fantastic news! The hypocrisy of this nihilistic death cult is there for all to see. 'A lion of Islam' As Meshaal the Hamas leader called him. My morbid curiousity would like to know what sort of porn he had a predeliction for but I suspect I know the answer - watch Fitna II when it's released if you need a hint.

Well i for one will not believe this story until pictures of the porn are released! And electronically recorded videos are released on youtube! In fact i insist on it!

[cdnvic]

Deleted more conspiracy fantasies. Patience running short.

[FOODLOVER]

Porn found in bin Laden hideout, officials say

Fairly extensive collection consists of modern, electronically recorded video

He had a lot of American junk food as well.

Does Allah know he is kicking back watching porn with a bag of chips and coke all while watching his color TV by remote. Hand down his pants scratching his nuts( not sure if he does that with his right or left hand so it may not be him), you know the gig. So this guy murders thousands in the name of the KORAN or Allah, has committed or been in charge of more plots since, and when we track him down the argument is to read him his rights? Ten years and hundreds of millions spent, another 10 years for a trial.

We have a breed of terrier in the states called a Pitt Bull. When bred improperly and not handled correctly they can become vicious. There have been on occasion tragedies that occur when they are not pinned properly and people die. We dont try to catch them once they have committed the atrocity, we kill it as it might escape during capture killing more people.The dog that was Osama has been put down with a precision strike. Not by one of those bunker busters that would have leveled the town but by a bullet. Thus saving civilian casualties.

I do understand the argument that we are better than that and all that but COME ON MAN! The seals did not know if a hundred jihadists were going to jump out at any moment and the goal was to get Bin Laden. They did.

This is fantastic news! The hypocrisy of this nihilistic death cult is there for all to see. 'A lion of Islam' As Meshaal the Hamas leader called him. My morbid curiousity would like to know what sort of porn he had a predeliction for but I suspect I know the answer - watch Fitna II when it's released if you need a hint.

Well i for one will not believe this story until pictures of the porn are released! And electronically recorded videos are released on youtube! In fact i insist on it!

Apparently all you can see are 2 humps and a camel toe, sorry.

[Exsexyman]

Porn found in bin Laden hideout, officials say

Fairly extensive collection consists of modern, electronically recorded video

He had a lot of American junk food as well.

Does Allah know he is kicking back watching porn with a bag of chips and coke all while watching his color TV by remote. Hand down his pants scratching his nuts( not sure if he does that with his right or left hand so it may not be him), you know the gig. So this guy murders thousands in the name of the KORAN or Allah, has committed or been in charge of more plots since, and when we track him down the argument is to read him his rights? Ten years and hundreds of millions spent, another 10 years for a trial.

We have a breed of terrier in the states called a Pitt Bull. When bred improperly and not handled correctly they can become vicious. There have been on occasion tragedies that occur when they are not pinned properly and people die. We dont try to catch them once they have committed the atrocity, we kill it as it might escape during capture killing more people.The dog that was Osama has been put down with a precision strike. Not by one of those bunker busters that would have leveled the town but by a bullet. Thus saving civilian casualties.

I do understand the argument that we are better than that and all that but COME ON MAN! The seals did not know if a hundred jihadists were going to jump out at any moment and the goal was to get Bin Laden. They did.

This is fantastic news! The hypocrisy of this nihilistic death cult is there for all to see. 'A lion of Islam' As Meshaal the Hamas leader called him. My morbid curiousity would like to know what sort of porn he had a predeliction for but I suspect I know the answer - watch Fitna II when it's released if you need a hint.

Well i for one will not believe this story until pictures of the porn are released! And electronically recorded videos are released on youtube! In fact i insist on it!

Apparently all you can see are 2 humps and a camel toe, sorry.

Heh heh. Not 72 virgins indulging in non penetrative action then? Oh dear, what a disappointment.

[geriatrickid]

In respect to the alleged pornography collection, I believe the court systems in the west have relied on the "community defintion" of pornography, I suppose some cultures might consider exposed arms on a woman pornoraphic. It's all relative. The report is a canard and not relevant. The mention of pornography was inappropriate and will be readily dismissed by OBL's followers because of the manner in which the news was leaked. The man had 3 wives with him. Why would he specifically need such material. There is a chance the material belonged to one of the henchmen. Who knows.

[transam]

In respect to the alleged pornography collection, I believe the court systems in the west have relied on the "community defintion" of pornography, I suppose some cultures might consider exposed arms on a woman pornoraphic. It's all relative. The report is a canard and not relevant. The mention of pornography was inappropriate and will be readily dismissed by OBL's followers because of the manner in which the news was leaked. The man had 3 wives with him. Why would he specifically need such material. There is a chance the material belonged to one of the henchmen. Who knows.

Doubt it. Would any aid RISK that sort of stuff being linked to their leader, noooooooooooo, have their own PC for that. Remember it is a death penalty offence in their world. Let's see what pan's out in the future.

WE ALL know these holier than thou guys take trips for sex and booze outside their own country, it's what they want but can't get for fear of head removal.

[elcent]

has the so called learned lawyer and President of the USA become silent after ordering the killing(of an admittedly unarmed man) and disposal of a human body? The article below states that they admitted a 50:50 chance that Osama was there. Maybe it's still the same unless evidence will be provided. The body got washed and disposed in the sea and still no images according to the law(yer) of what? - Surely not international law, just Obama's law kinda Sharia thingy.

This is an insult to the international community at it's best.

Washington: Faced with what he called a "55-45 situation" US President Barack Obama took a calculated risk when he ordered the May 1 commando raid on Osama bin Laden's hideout in Pakistan.

"At the end of the day, this was still a 55-45 situation," Obama told CBS in an interview telecast on Sunday acknowledging the US had only circumstantial evidence about Al Qaeda leader hiding in the Abbottabad house.

He also had a sharply divided counsel from his advisers as "We could not say definitively that bin Laden was there. Had he not been there, then there would have been some significant consequences." http://daily.bhaskar...ni-2089283.html

Edited May 14, 2011 by elcent

[SteeleJoe]

has the so called learned lawyer and President of the USA become silent after ordering the killing(of an admittedly unarmed man) and disposal of a human body? The article below states that they admitted a 50:50 chance that Osama was there. Maybe it's still the same unless evidence will be provided. The body got washed and disposed in the sea and still no images according to the law(yer) of what? - Surely not international law, just Obama's law kinda Sharia thingy.

This is an insult to the international community at it's best.

Washington: Faced with what he called a "55-45 situation" US President Barack Obama took a calculated risk when he ordered the May 1 commando raid on Osama bin Laden's hideout in Pakistan.

"At the end of the day, this was still a 55-45 situation," Obama told CBS in an interview telecast on Sunday acknowledging the US had only circumstantial evidence about Al Qaeda leader hiding in the Abbottabad house.

He also had a sharply divided counsel from his advisers as "We could not say definitively that bin Laden was there. Had he not been there, then there would have been some significant consequences." http://daily.bhaskar...ni-2089283.html

Trouble reading what you posted? The article quotes Pres. Obama as saying 55:45 chance that Osama was there. They don't call it an 'admission', that's you.

But I'm afraid I don't get what your point is in regards to that...

[elcent]

Unreleased bin Laden audio message called 'puzzling'

-- An unreleased audio message from Osama bin Laden, produced in late April, days before his death, in which he talks in support of the so-called "Arab Spring," was seized at the compound during the U.S. raid, according to a U.S. official.The message refers to the revolutions in Egypt and Tunisia but doesn't mention the uprisings in Libya, Yemen, Syria or elsewhere.

The official spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the classified nature of the information.

The official said it is "puzzling" that bin Laden would "suddenly join the bandwagon on the uprisings," months after they started and not mention all of the Arab nations in turmoil. For instance, the official said it was a "head scratcher" why bin Laden would not indicate his support for the uprising against Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, a man bin Laden detested. http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/13/pakistan.bin.laden.message/index.html?hpt=T2

Unreleased evidence of this and that are very forthcoming. From the above we can suspect that these kind of a fake evidence was prepared well ahead of the Libya, Yemen, Syria and elsewhere conflicts . As time passes things becoming clearer and clearer.

[elcent]

has the so called learned lawyer and President of the USA become silent after ordering the killing(of an admittedly unarmed man) and disposal of a human body? The article below states that they admitted a 50:50 chance that Osama was there. Maybe it's still the same unless evidence will be provided. The body got washed and disposed in the sea and still no images according to the law(yer) of what? - Surely not international law, just Obama's law kinda Sharia thingy.

This is an insult to the international community at it's best.

Washington: Faced with what he called a "55-45 situation" US President Barack Obama took a calculated risk when he ordered the May 1 commando raid on Osama bin Laden's hideout in Pakistan.

"At the end of the day, this was still a 55-45 situation," Obama told CBS in an interview telecast on Sunday acknowledging the US had only circumstantial evidence about Al Qaeda leader hiding in the Abbottabad house.

He also had a sharply divided counsel from his advisers as "We could not say definitively that bin Laden was there. Had he not been there, then there would have been some significant consequences." http://daily.bhaskar...ni-2089283.html

Trouble reading what you posted? The article quotes Pres. Obama as saying 55:45 chance that Osama was there. They don't call it an 'admission', that's you.

But I'm afraid I don't get what your point is in regards to that...

Obama gave order to kill when the chances were only 50:50 that Osama was there. The admission is within the content. Would you give an order like this and violate international laws? It's even more disgusting to see that he played a Russian Roulette with other peoples life. A tragical game by chance and not facts. It could have been anybody and probably was someone else. Hence all the destroyed and unrealeased evidences. This man is dangerous. Wait and see what else he will put on next.

There's one thing that comes to my mind. Impeachment now!

Edited May 14, 2011 by elcent

[SteeleJoe]

Obama gave order to kill when the chances were only 50:50 that Osama was there. The admission is within the content.

Wrong again. Twice.

It was 55:45 according to Obama. Not 50:50.

He gave the order to go in when he wasn't sure if ObL was there or not. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself. It's quite different to order them to kill if they were only 55% sure that it was ObL but the article doesn't say or suggest that's what Obama did.

Are you being deliberately dishonest, or just not paying attention to what you are reading? Or just too bigoted to see facts clearly? Or a combination of all three?

Edited May 14, 2011 by SteeleJoe

[cdnvic]

Troll removed, please move on.

If you want to talk conspiracy fairy tales there's plenty of other forums out there. We have no patience for that kind of nonsense here.

[Naam]

Talking about porn, Bin Laden and conspiracy theories...

One of our more esteemed members mentioned that he thought the photo shown of Bin Laden was a fake because Bin Laden was left handed and he was using the remote control with his right hand. Ergo, the photo was fake and was part of the conspiracy.

Now that we know he watched porn, we also know what he was using his left hand for.

i assume you were there because you "know" what he watched and used his left hand for.

but why do you use pluralis majestatis? are you a royal descendant?

[Ulysses G.]

Now that we know he watched porn, we also know what he was using his left hand for.

Apparently, Bin Ladin got all ambidextrous when he was watching snuff films. :jerk:

[FOODLOVER]

In respect to the alleged pornography collection, I believe the court systems in the west have relied on the "community defintion" of pornography, I suppose some cultures might consider exposed arms on a woman pornoraphic. It's all relative. The report is a canard and not relevant. The mention of pornography was inappropriate and will be readily dismissed by OBL's followers because of the manner in which the news was leaked. The man had 3 wives with him. Why would he specifically need such material. There is a chance the material belonged to one of the henchmen. Who knows.

Have you seen his wives?

[chuckd]

Talking about porn, Bin Laden and conspiracy theories...

One of our more esteemed members mentioned that he thought the photo shown of Bin Laden was a fake because Bin Laden was left handed and he was using the remote control with his right hand. Ergo, the photo was fake and was part of the conspiracy.

Now that we know he watched porn, we also know what he was using his left hand for.

i assume you were there because you "know" what he watched and used his left hand for.

but why do you use pluralis majestatis? are you a royal descendant?

I see your sparkling sense of humour is at work today.

By chance, you're not left handed are you?

[geriatrickid]

Unreleased bin Laden audio message called 'puzzling'

-- An unreleased audio message from Osama bin Laden, produced in late April, days before his death, in which he talks in support of the so-called "Arab Spring," was seized at the compound during the U.S. raid, according to a U.S. official.The message refers to the revolutions in Egypt and Tunisia but doesn't mention the uprisings in Libya, Yemen, Syria or elsewhere.

The official spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the classified nature of the information.

The official said it is "puzzling" that bin Laden would "suddenly join the bandwagon on the uprisings," months after they started and not mention all of the Arab nations in turmoil. For instance, the official said it was a "head scratcher" why bin Laden would not indicate his support for the uprising against Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, a man bin Laden detested. http://www.cnn.com/2...dex.html?hpt=T2

Unreleased evidence of this and that are very forthcoming. From the above we can suspect that these kind of a fake evidence was prepared well ahead of the Libya, Yemen, Syria and elsewhere conflicts . As time passes things becoming clearer and clearer.

We? Fake evidence? There is nothing to substantiate your allegation. I am glad that you are becoming lucid and I hope the clarity you have expressed allows you to undertsand that your comment does not make sense to those of us that are not in your "we".

Edited May 15, 2011 by geriatrickid