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John Lennon Was A Closet Republican!

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John Lennon was a closet Republican, who felt a little embarrassed by his former radicalism, at the time of his death - according to the tragic Beatles star's last personal assistant.

Fred Seaman worked alongside the music legend from 1979 to Lennon's death at the end of 1980 and he reveals the star was a Ronald Reagan fan who enjoyed arguing with left-wing radicals who reminded him of his former self.

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/06/28/lennon-was-a-closet-republican-assistant

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So it seems Lennon really was a genius afterall.

Only says to me that its easy enough to talk about a dead man and say anything since its not likely he will be answering back. Kinda reminds me of a few TV posters with their stories of their "exploits" .

You guys in your little closed Box have been a source of much amusement for many for some time now.

If it wasn't for the fact that your biggotted viewpoints could get quite nasty at times you could easily be mistaken for Larry, Curly, Moe, et al.

You generally kept yourselves contained and others didn't have to read your stuff unless we needed a good belly laugh at the rediculousness of your scarcely constrained racism directed at one man.

However, you have gone too far.

John Lennon?

That does it....I must rescind all my former views, recant all my past statements, and sign up to the Republican Supporters of The World.

"He was a very different person back in 1979 and 80 than he'd been when he wrote Imagine. By 1979 he looked back on that guy and was embarrassed by that guy's naivete."

That sounds like a lot of us.

“If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”

- Winston Churchill

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Only says to me that its easy enough to talk about a dead man and say anything since its not likely he will be answering back.

So discussions about famous people of the past should be forbidden? Besides, this former assitant is paying him a great compliment. I'm sure he'd be proud.

Only says to me that its easy enough to talk about a dead man and say anything since its not likely he will be answering back.

So discussions about famous people of the past should be forbidden? Besides, this former assitant is paying him a great compliment. I'm sure he'd be proud.

Ohhhh. All this time. Now I know who you are, Koheesti.

This makes it so much easier.

Cheers, mate!;)

"He was a very different person back in 1979 and 80 than he'd been when he wrote Imagine. By 1979 he looked back on that guy and was embarrassed by that guy's naivete."

That sounds like a lot of us.

"If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

- Winston Churchill

Did Churchill really say that?

In Germany (which was a divided country during my youth), we used to say:

If you are not a communist when you are 20, you have no heart.

If you are still a communist when you are 30, you have no brain.

Of course, we said that in West Germany, not sure it would have been approved in East Germany. It was legally significant (no further comments).

My question is: Did we use and rephrase what Churchill said, or did he never say it?

"He was a very different person back in 1979 and 80 than he'd been when he wrote Imagine. By 1979 he looked back on that guy and was embarrassed by that guy's naivete."

That sounds like a lot of us.

"If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

- Winston Churchill

Did Churchill really say that?

Probably not. If he did he would more likely have used the word 'socialist rather than the the word 'liberal'. Both words have different meanings in the UK to what they do in the US.

Here's a piece from Google Answers which seems more likely to be true:

"I have not found any evidence that this is a Winston Churchill quotation.

It appears that this particular quotation is often mistakenly

attributed to Winston Churchill.

A man named Peter Rutland wrote a letter to the Washington Post

clearing up the origin of the 'Churchill quote':

?Charles Krauthammer [op-ed, May 25] quotes Winston Churchill as

saying, "If you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If

you're not a conservative when you're 40, you have no head."

This quotation is frequently but mistakenly attributed to Churchill.

It is anyway unlikely that Churchill would subscribe to this

philosophy: He was a swashbuckling soldier at 20, and a Conservative

member of Parliament at 25. A couple of years later he switched to the

Liberal Party (which was not liberal in the modern sense), and later

went back to the Conservatives.

The phrase originated with Francois Guisot (1787-1874): "Not to be a

republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is

proof of want of head." It was revived by French Premier Georges

Clemenceau (1841-1929): "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of

want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head.""

Another of Clemenceau's sayings was that 'England is a former colony gone horribly wrong' :lol:

There are times when I have want of head. :whistling:

But I think that is a different meaning.

"He was a very different person back in 1979 and 80 than he'd been when he wrote Imagine. By 1979 he looked back on that guy and was embarrassed by that guy's naivete."

That sounds like a lot of us.

"If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

- Winston Churchill

Stop posting misquotes. You've posted that particular one too many times.

"He was a very different person back in 1979 and 80 than he'd been when he wrote Imagine. By 1979 he looked back on that guy and was embarrassed by that guy's naivete."

That sounds like a lot of us.

"If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

- Winston Churchill

Did Churchill really say that?

In Germany (which was a divided country during my youth), we used to say:

If you are not a communist when you are 20, you have no heart.

If you are still a communist when you are 30, you have no brain.

Of course, we said that in West Germany, not sure it would have been approved in East Germany. It was legally significant (no further comments).

My question is: Did we use and rephrase what Churchill said, or did he never say it?

Many sayings attributed to Winston were not his, or not originally his.

But this one was around long before WWII, so your youth had picked it up from somewhere else.

Another of Clemenceau's sayings was that 'England is a former colony gone horribly wrong' :lol:

Then Clemenceau got it completely wrong, because France was ruled by England as late as the 1400's.

Well, the best parts - Normanndy, Aquitane, Languedoc et al.

And the Plantagenet descendants could still rightfully claim the French throne now, if there are any.

Also Henry VIII's sister Mary ws Queen of France.

They'd be better off than having this Hungarian dwarf ruling them as now.

No one knows if Churchill said it first of if he simply repeateded it, but it is still a valuable insight.

"If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

Did Churchill really say that?

In Germany (which was a divided country during my youth), we used to say:

If you are not a communist when you are 20, you have no heart.

If you are still a communist when you are 30, you have no brain.

Of course, we said that in West Germany, not sure it would have been approved in East Germany. It was legally significant (no further comments).

My question is: Did we use and rephrase what Churchill said, or did he never say it?

Many sayings attributed to Winston were not his, or not originally his.

But this one was around long before WWII, so your youth had picked it up from somewhere else.

What do you mean, "your youth"? I was the "youth" at the time! :whistling:

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No one knows if Churchill said it first of if he simply repeateded it, but it is still a valuable insight.

"If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

Got that right Georgie.

I was a 'liberal' for maybe one semester at UC Santa Barbara but after the hippies burned down the Band of America branch there in Goleta (Isla Vista) I saw the light... :rolleyes:

Some of us think that John Lennon is still alive and contributing to the forum as Boon Mee. :ph34r:

Winston Churchill switched back and forth between the conservative and liberal parties. His mother also believed that wasn't the only switching he did.

Winston Churchill switched back and forth between the conservative and liberal parties. His mother also believed that wasn't the only switching he did.

And before anybody kicks off the Liberal Party in the UK was not liberal in the sense that Americans mean:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_%28UK%29

Winston Churchill switched back and forth between the conservative and liberal parties. His mother also believed that wasn't the only switching he did.

He was only loyal to himself. A politician's and statesman's manner.

Winston Churchill switched back and forth between the conservative and liberal parties. His mother also believed that wasn't the only switching he did.

Churchil had a fetish for whipping people with a long thin stick? Or he went both ways?

Some of us think that John Lennon is still alive and contributing to the forum as Boon Mee. :ph34r:

And then there are others who believe Elvis is still alive in the reincarnation of a Miami hotel worker turned bookseller in CM too... :D

On topic: John Lennon wasn't referred to as the smart Beatle for nothing... :whistling:

I read somewhere that his mother accused him of being gay.

He got it on with Brian Epstein, but in England a little of that seems to be accepted. :ermm:

He got it on with Brian Epstein, but in England a little of that seems to be accepted. :ermm:

That's what bikesheds are for - having a fag...

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