Does It Matter Where You Buy/Register Your Vehicle

[topt]

Someone floated the suggestion that they heard that people who bought and registered in Pattaya, Chonburi, Rayong received a lower resale value then if they had registered in BKK. It does not seem plausible to me especially if you buy in say Pattaya, live there and then sell it there?

Anybody heard this or can refute it ?

[timekeeper]

i heard that too, still do not know if its true or why it would be?

[wandrinstar]

The Sea Air causes rust .

[guzzi850m2]

The Sea Air causes rust .

True.

My Thai doctor neighbor got his Fortuner registered in BKK, because he don't like to people to see that he lives in ChonBuri province (Pattaya). I find this very strange, he work in BKK/Pattaya hospital which is the biggest private hospital around, but okay this guy is the most kind/discreet type of person you can imagine.

[futurespeter]

I did register my car in Bangkok, although I live in Samut Sakhon.

My Wife and other Thai people recommended registration in Bangkok.

I do what my wife says …

Rust problems at the sea area? Small province plates causes more intensive police controls? Don’t know if that is true.

In many countries cars from small cities causes problems because they are not used experienced driving behaviour in big cities.

[mdechgan]

Its true. A Bkk registration and license plate is much more preffered than a chonburi or nonthaburi plate.

Don't really know why. It must have something to do with the police and status. If you have a chonburi license plate but you do most of your driving in bkk the cops will find a way to get money off you for driving in the wrong place at the wrong time. Also a non-bkk plate means you are not a bangkokian and are from the rural areas.

[wandrinstar]

Police pull known Border Drug Areas over more so than Bkk plates .A Bkk reg is a Face thing for poor Thai Ladies made good.Bit like Face White Cream.

[LeCharivari]

Police pull known Border Drug Areas over more so than Bkk plates .A Bkk reg is a Face thing for poor Thai Ladies made good.Bit like Face White Cream.

Agreed. Apart from the "poor Thai Ladies made good" there is little difference in resale value between Bangkok and Chonburi plates for most people, but vehicles registered in up-country areas are likely to have been driven on worse roads than those in urban areas (particularly 4x4 and Prerunner-style pick-ups which may have been genuinely used off-road) so they are likely to be valued accordingly.

[wandrinstar]

Police pull known Border Drug Areas over more so than Bkk plates .A Bkk reg is a Face thing for poor Thai Ladies made good.Bit like Face White Cream.

Agreed. Apart from the "poor Thai Ladies made good" there is little difference in resale value between Bangkok and Chonburi plates for most people, but vehicles registered in up-country areas are likely to have been driven on worse roads than those in urban areas (particularly 4x4 and Prerunner-style pick-ups which may have been genuinely used off-road) so they are likely to be valued accordingly.

Dont Shoot the Messenger..The Ladies [some] do say that. FACT. In context to the O.P.s inquiry.

[katabeachbum]

Chonbury and any Isarn plate hard to sell, even locally. Tent trick, change to BKK plates (at approx 1300baht)

BKK, Petchbury and Pretchuap and Phuket popular. Surat ok.

But at every province border check, BKK plates always get pulled over, probably as most rentals are BKK plates.

[wandrinstar]

Ive got the papers and book to a Datsun Truck . Its overgrown with vines, not roadworthy, but Black Plated with No 404 , registerd in Loi. Could i put it on another car i own..?.

[katabeachbum]

Ive got the papers and book to a Datsun Truck . Its overgrown with vines, not roadworthy, but Black Plated with No 404 , registerd in Loi. Could i put it on another car i own..?.

tempting

there is an old benz 123 for sale around the corner at 5500 baht including book and plates. and an uk one year old E320d costs a million or two

[wandrinstar]

Ive got the papers and book to a Datsun Truck . Its overgrown with vines, not roadworthy, but Black Plated with No 404 , registerd in Loi. Could i put it on another car i own..?.

tempting

there is an old benz 123 for sale around the corner at 5500 baht including book and plates. and an uk one year old E320d costs a million or two

So if i took all the papers, in her late Fathers name,she could slap it on her accord then.?.

[LeCharivari]

Chonbury and any Isarn plate hard to sell, even locally. Tent trick, change to BKK plates (at approx 1300baht)

BKK, Petchbury and Pretchuap and Phuket popular. Surat ok.

Where are you talking about selling?

Any idea that vehicles from Chonburi are as "hard to sell, even locally" (in Chonburi) as those from Issan is simply bizarre.

Chonburi sales rooms, not surprisingly, are full of vehicles with Chonburi plates which sell there without any problem (as they do in Rayong), but what you won't see, though, are many vehicles from Phuket, Petchaburi, Prachuap, Surat or the Issan provinces. Why should you?

Similarly, the vast majority of vehicles sold second-hand in Issan (particularly pick-ups) have Issan plates.

Any "tent trick" of changing to Bangkok plates would cost considerably more than 1300 baht as the seller/middleman would be unable to do so without being the owner of the vehicle and paying transfer tax accordingly - something very few would be keen to do - and it would, in any case, be immediately obvious in the green book.

[LeCharivari]

Ive got the papers and book to a Datsun Truck . Its overgrown with vines, not roadworthy, but Black Plated with No 404 , registerd in Loi. Could i put it on another car i own..?.

tempting

there is an old benz 123 for sale around the corner at 5500 baht including book and plates. and an uk one year old E320d costs a million or two

So if i took all the papers, in her late Fathers name,she could slap it on her accord then.?.

No - you own the car, not the plates, and if the car's that old its probably not been registered in a while and has been de-registered anyway.

You only own the plates if you have bought them separately and have the papers for them registered separately in your name - the coloured plates with the provincial "picture" on them are the only one you can actually own and transfer to another vehicle or sell.

[LeCharivari]

Sorry, duplicate post

[wandrinstar]

Ive got the papers and book to a Datsun Truck . Its overgrown with vines, not roadworthy, but Black Plated with No 404 , registerd in Loi. Could i put it on another car i own..?.

tempting

there is an old benz 123 for sale around the corner at 5500 baht including book and plates. and an uk one year old E320d costs a million or two

So if i took all the papers, in her late Fathers name,she could slap it on her accord then.?.

No - you own the car, not the plates, and if the car's that old its probably not been registered in a while and has been de-registered anyway.

You only own the plates if you have bought them separately and have the papers for them registered separately in your name - the coloured plates with the provincial "picture" on them are the only one you can actually own and transfer to another vehicle or sell.

Good info, thank you. Now im even more confused for 2 reasons. My daughter just sold her Sportiveo,in her Moms name and the guy changed the plates to a 3 Number, 456 or something, but it wasn't a coloured one, just normal. Now there a shop in the City that sells plates, both Province Colour and all over the country plates, but there's no Cars about just a Shop. De registering seems a bit drastic, what if its an old Car kept as a Classic.

[katabeachbum]

Chonbury and any Isarn plate hard to sell, even locally. Tent trick, change to BKK plates (at approx 1300baht)

BKK, Petchbury and Pretchuap and Phuket popular. Surat ok.

Where are you talking about selling?

Any idea that vehicles from Chonburi are as "hard to sell, even locally" (in Chonburi) as those from Issan is simply bizarre.

Chonburi sales rooms, not surprisingly, are full of vehicles with Chonburi plates which sell there without any problem (as they do in Rayong), but what you won't see, though, are many vehicles from Phuket, Petchaburi, Prachuap, Surat or the Issan provinces. Why should you?

Similarly, the vast majority of vehicles sold second-hand in Issan (particularly pick-ups) have Issan plates.

Any "tent trick" of changing to Bangkok plates would cost considerably more than 1300 baht as the seller/middleman would be unable to do so without being the owner of the vehicle and paying transfer tax accordingly - something very few would be keen to do - and it would, in any case, be immediately obvious in the green book.

sold a few one-oneandhalf year old vehicles to tent dealers out of Province, and strangely enough they all ask to have new plate application form signed, perhaps cause they want BKK plates before putting them up for sale? Just a thought .

and in Isarn, BKK lates simply catches higher price than local plates, especially since the DLT requirement to change to local plates disappeared

and southwest/south of BKK nobody wants Chonbury plates, impossible to sell

In Phuket 30-40% of all sold/reg Phuket plate vehicles are registered to non Phuket residents, according to Phuket DLT stats

and as this is about cars/trucks, they come with blue books, not green

[katabeachbum]

Good info, thank you. Now im even more confused for 2 reasons. My daughter just sold her Sportiveo,in her Moms name and the guy changed the plates to a 3 Number, 456 or something, but it wasn't a coloured one, just normal. Now there a shop in the City that sells plates, both Province Colour and all over the country plates, but there's no Cars about just a Shop. De registering seems a bit drastic, what if its an old Car kept as a Classic.

Registered owner owns the plates, any color. But the ordinary ones can not be transfered to another vehicle, only the scenic ones. Plate remains on vehicle despite being deregistered, they are supported by tax sticker to indicate vehicle is registered, taxed, insured and roadworthy tested

any vehilce can get new plates, same province or another province, simple application form and 650 baht for bike or 1300 baht for car. new plate number stamped on books front page, noted/stamped/signed on page 4 and platechange logged in page 18. New tax sticker with new plate number.

If I where to buy a second hand vehicle I would never keep the plates, but replace them, to reduce the chance of mixup with previuos owners actions and reduce the possibility of extra keys being used

[eTiMaGo]

Back to the topic of seeing provincial plates in BKK, I think the reverse also applies, for instance when I am in Phuket I stay far, far away from cars with Bangkok plates, as these guys generally have no idea how to go up a hill... (although truth be told, neither do most locals)

[LeCharivari]

sold a few one-oneandhalf year old vehicles to tent dealers out of Province, and strangely enough they all ask to have new plate application form signed, perhaps cause they want BKK plates before putting them up for sale? Just a thought .

and in Isarn, BKK lates simply catches higher price than local plates, especially since the DLT requirement to change to local plates disappeared

and southwest/south of BKK nobody wants Chonbury plates, impossible to sell

In Phuket 30-40% of all sold/reg Phuket plate vehicles are registered to non Phuket residents, according to Phuket DLT stats

and as this is about cars/trucks, they come with blue books, not green

My mistake - I was posting about vehicles "bought and registered in Pattaya, Chonburi, Rayong", as was the OP. What happens "southwest" of Bangkok may be a different story, but south-east of Bangkok Chonburi plates are as acceptable as any (especially in Chonburi and the neighbouring provinces!).

South of Bangkok? No idea what vehicles are sold in the Gulf of Thailand

[eTiMaGo]

er..... boats?

[LeCharivari]

Registered owner owns the plates, any color.

Maybe in Phuket. Elsewhere, when you change the number for either a scenic plate (yours) or a standard plate you must return the old plates to the DLT - you don't "own" the plates. If you can't return the plates you must give the DLT a copy of the police report that they have been stolen.

Plate remains on vehicle despite being deregistered, they are supported by tax sticker to indicate vehicle is registered, taxed, insured and roadworthy tested

??? ... if the vehicle's been de-registered that's because it isn't "registered, taxed, insured and roadworthy tested" and doesn't have a "tax sticker"!

any vehilce can get new plates, same province or another province, simple application form and 650 baht for bike or 1300 baht for car. new plate number stamped on books front page, noted/stamped/signed on page 4 and platechange logged in page 18. New tax sticker with new plate number.

Hence my point that any such change "would, in any case, be immediately obvious" to any potential buyer reading the book who could see straightaway where the vehicle was first registered/used. It is quite possible to get a completely new book at the same time as any new plates for an additional payment, but it is still a very simple process to check the vehicle's history - someone would have to be very niave indeed to be fooled by something quite so cosmetic as new plates, and there is little reason for anyone to pay a premium for a vehicle with "new" Bangkok plates when they could make exactly the same cosmetic change themselves. Some people are that naive, admittedly, but not everyone.

[LeCharivari]

.... what if its an old Car kept as a Classic.

Unlike the UK, for example, there's no tax dispensation for "classic" (old) cars so all cars fall into the same three basic categories whether they are in a "car collection" or on the road , so if you want to keep your unregistered "Classic" in your living room (or your garden) you can.

1. Fully road legal: taxed, registered, insured and tested (if necessary).

2. Tax expired: untaxed, but still registered (and possibly insured).

3. De-registered: after tax has expired for over thee years cars are officially "de-registered" and have to be re-registered before they can become road-legal.

(and I don't mean "car collection" in a derogatory way - while they may not equal Beaulieu or the Schlumpf Collecion, some are well maintained, very interesting, and most of us could only dream about owning them)

[wandrinstar]

Hmmm, what a fuss, just to register. Personally i wouldn't put one of the Province Hello Kitty looking plates on Rubbish Tip. Who dreamed up those colours ?, some "ding ding dolly" in Phone Shop..A simple black one looks much nicer.. The Crashed Isuzu of my my Wife's friend has kept the No 711 on 3 or 4 Vehicles so it cant be too difficult.. !!.. Sometimes my replies are really from A1 Paper Truckers, those Big Blue and Whites you see everywhere. They recon the Cops pull any N.E. Plate regardless of make, from Benz to Cruze, highest to lowest.. Bkk is favorite, they all agree on that.:jap:

[guzzi850m2]

My current car has ChonBuri plates and the next car will have as well. I am not embarrassed/ashamed living in Pattaya.

I can't see it as a problem selling a car with CB plates, despite the motor forum experts dooms day conclusions.

[Superskunk]

If you really think about to keep your number plates you should get some special ones (but they can be worth more than your car):

http://www.tabiendee.com/

[LeCharivari]

The Crashed Isuzu of my my Wife's friend has kept the No 711 on 3 or 4 Vehicles so it cant be too difficult.. !!..

I think you'll find that no-one said it was difficult! There's no problem having any number of cars with the same numbers legally - you just have to pay for them at 1300 baht each, as long as no-one else wants that particular number. What will be different, though, are the letters.

[wandrinstar]

I find it illogical to de register a plate,My friend who is an elderly Thai has an immaculate black Peugeot. with a No 12 on it. I'm sure he doesn't know some faceless office twerp has cancelled it.. He intends to give it to his Grandson, its run and polished but not registered for 18 years ,the originality should not be taken from a 45 year old car IMO. It will be Sold at a great profit no doubt, but the old boy cant afford those prices..

[topt]

My current car has ChonBuri plates and the next car will have as well. I am not embarrassed/ashamed living in Pattaya.

I can't see it as a problem selling a car with CB plates, despite the motor forum experts dooms day conclusions.

I agree with your sentiments but I also found that we could get a much improved deal from the dealers in BKK then we could get in Pattaya/Rayong. I don't tend to nip up to BKK very often so it was a good day out as well - fortunately did not rain