Have they stopped with stoning?

Apparently stoning is for adulterous women. If you're gay they push a wall on you and crush you to death.

what would happen if you are an adulterous lesbian !

I'm not quite sure about their policy on lesbians. If they've got any sense they'll leave them alone. It's not wise to fuc_k with a lesbian...

Three of the accused have been found guilty and the other two have been acquitted. They're to be sentenced in a fortnight. I've ordered a dump truck full of throwing-sized jagged-edged rocks in case they invite me to carry out the sentence.

Jehova

Jehova

Are you one of his witnesses?

I don't know why they would want to hang them. I know many gay men who are already quite well hung.

"Three Muslim men have been jailed for handing out leaflets calling for gay people to be killed.

In a landmark case last month, Ihjaz Ali, 42, Kabir Ahmed, 28 and Razwan Javed, 28, were found guilty of breaching hate crime legislation by distributing the leaflets outside a mosque and posting them through letterboxes in the Normanton area of Derby.

Ali was sentenced to two years in prison at Derby Crown Court, while Ahmed and Javed were jailed for 15 months. Two other men, Mehboob Hussain, 45 and Umar Javed, 38, were previously acquitted of the same charge."

http://news.sky.com/...rticle/16167407

Anyone want to buy some rocks?

The fact that it was a Muslim group that handed out the leaflets probably does more to help the gay cause than hurt it. A lot of people don't want to be on the same side with them on any issue.

You have a point. These days, even the skinheads are more anti-Muslim than anti-Gay.

I can only see where we are happy with who we are, what we do, no matter what we believe simply we act as we know. Others don't know, act as if they want to belong to something they don't quite grasp and wish only to be seen to be doing what they perceive to be right. For the gratification of others.

Reminds me of the kind of people who buy extra large pizzas for their partners who are 300 kg....

The fact that it was a Muslim group that handed out the leaflets probably does more to help the gay cause than hurt it. A lot of people don't want to be on the same side with them on any issue.

Derby's never been a particularly gay-friendly town. The first time we had a publicly advertised gay pub open the local thugs attempted to trash it within hours of it opening. What they didn't realise is that not poofs are limp of the wrist. They got a good kicking

i remember a part-time drag queen in San Francisco that we called Uncle Ron. He always said that the only thing he liked to do more than f*** was fight and he meant it.

The fact that it was a Muslim group that handed out the leaflets probably does more to help the gay cause than hurt it. A lot of people don't want to be on the same side with them on any issue.

Derby's never been a particularly gay-friendly town. The first time we had a publicly advertised gay pub open the local thugs attempted to trash it within hours of it opening. What they didn't realise is that not poofs are limp of the wrist. They got a good kicking

My closest homosexual friend, I think, is an example to which I think men should aspire: a competent handyman who is comfortable with the ladies and always willing to be helpful. Despite being English, I don't think he is particularly bellicose, but I see that as more childish than manly in any case. He doesn't have a puerile sense of humour, either...

I think it was in the song "Gordon is a moron"

"...He is a poof

He's more of a man than you'll ever be..."

SC

The Daily Mail can be relentless on some subjects however the content can be excellent too. I stopped buying it though as every other headline was a stupid pejorative question such as " Are we all going to die of bird flue? ".

On the pther hand they do have a point, the introduction of Sharia Law tribunals is and was a disgrace, ( on a side note, the Jewish faith also has a similar tribunal system in place in the UK ).

I thought the point of the Magna Carta and the thousand year struggle for the Rule of Law was to ensure that we all live under one law??

These exceptions based upon " religious sensitivities " will come back and haunt the UK.

I don't think that adherence to the Shariah law exempts you from the criminal law. However, some people apparently prefer to live according to their own cultural norms rather than those of their host nation. For example, while living in a muslim country, I continued to have only one wife, and to drink alcohol. The Muslim country, like the UK, was a tolerant place where diversity was supported. I never had any civil disputes that required arbitration, though I am sure that if could settle the disputes amicably, without resort to the local courts, I could have resorted to whatever arbiter was acceptable to both parties.

I don't think that Shariah law encourages, or even allows you to preach hatred against your neighbour, regardless of who he may be, but in any case the men in question fell foul of the UK criminal law and were rightly prosecuted. I don't really see it as any different from the prosecution of neo-nazi hatemongers, but I sometimes worry that simpletons reading that newspaper may accept statements by nutters as an accurate summary of the teachings of Islam

SC

Sorry SC.......I am not agreeing with this one.

Sharia Tribunals are now legally binding in many instances. That has gone beyond the laudable cause of arbitration into now creating a two tier legal system in the UK.

Quite frankly I think it is disgusting.

There are now reports of women being forced into Sharia Tribunals and being denied access to British justice. Disgraceful.

The Daily Mail can be relentless on some subjects however the content can be excellent too. I stopped buying it though as every other headline was a stupid pejorative question such as " Are we all going to die of bird flue? ".

On the pther hand they do have a point, the introduction of Sharia Law tribunals is and was a disgrace, ( on a side note, the Jewish faith also has a similar tribunal system in place in the UK ).

I thought the point of the Magna Carta and the thousand year struggle for the Rule of Law was to ensure that we all live under one law??

These exceptions based upon " religious sensitivities " will come back and haunt the UK.

I don't think that adherence to the Shariah law exempts you from the criminal law. However, some people apparently prefer to live according to their own cultural norms rather than those of their host nation. For example, while living in a muslim country, I continued to have only one wife, and to drink alcohol. The Muslim country, like the UK, was a tolerant place where diversity was supported. I never had any civil disputes that required arbitration, though I am sure that if could settle the disputes amicably, without resort to the local courts, I could have resorted to whatever arbiter was acceptable to both parties.

I don't think that Shariah law encourages, or even allows you to preach hatred against your neighbour, regardless of who he may be, but in any case the men in question fell foul of the UK criminal law and were rightly prosecuted. I don't really see it as any different from the prosecution of neo-nazi hatemongers, but I sometimes worry that simpletons reading that newspaper may accept statements by nutters as an accurate summary of the teachings of Islam

SC

Sorry SC.......I am not agreeing with this one.

Sharia Tribunals are now legally binding in many instances. That has gone beyond the laudable cause of arbitration into now creating a two tier legal system in the UK.

Quite frankly I think it is disgusting.

There are now reports of women being forced into Sharia Tribunals and being denied access to British justice. Disgraceful.

Sharia tribunals are never legally binding in the UK. The only legally binding decisions in the UK are those that are fought through the courts. Sharia tribunals have the same legal standing as Beth Din tribunals. They are binding (but not legally binding) on those who are willing to accept their decisions.

Sorry SC.......I am not agreeing with this one.

Sharia Tribunals are now legally binding in many instances. That has gone beyond the laudable cause of arbitration into now creating a two tier legal system in the UK.

Quite frankly I think it is disgusting.

There are now reports of women being forced into Sharia Tribunals and being denied access to British justice. Disgraceful.

Sharia tribunals have the weight of most arbitral tribunals.

If the parties agree to abide by them, then they becoming legally binding in any future legal action (unless the arbitral decision is unsound in law).

What concerns me is that one of the parties is often not allowed any alternative recourse (i.e. British common law) but is forced to accept Sharia law as the final arbiter.

Sorry SC.......I am not agreeing with this one.

Sharia Tribunals are now legally binding in many instances. That has gone beyond the laudable cause of arbitration into now creating a two tier legal system in the UK.

Quite frankly I think it is disgusting.

There are now reports of women being forced into Sharia Tribunals and being denied access to British justice. Disgraceful.

Sharia tribunals have the weight of most arbitral tribunals.

If the parties agree to abide by them, then they becoming legally binding in any future legal action (unless the arbitral decision is unsound in law).

What concerns me is that one of the parties is often not allowed any alternative recourse (i.e. British common law) but is forced to accept Sharia law as the final arbiter.

Any arbitral decision made under Sharia law is likely to be unsound under British common law. Denying one of the parties access to British common law is certainly illegal, but very difficult to prevent. How do you stop something when by definition you don't know it's happening?

Any arbitral decision made under Sharia law is likely to be unsound under British common law. Denying one of the parties access to British common law is certainly illegal, but very difficult to prevent. How do you stop something when by definition you don't know it's happening?

I disagree.

Many Sharia decisions (probably the great majority) concern property or trade disputes and are sound in law. They are not reported by the media as they have no sensational aspect.

The only ones I see reported are those with some sexual aspect, where Islam has a very different view to current Western mores. For me, neither extreme is correct, but the middle ground is derided by both groups.

Personally, I follow the ten commandments and the rest of Leviticus to the best of my ability.

And here is a guide on how to do your duty as a Muslim husband :

An Islamic marriage guide that advises Muslim men on how to beat and control their wives has sparked outrage.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4218484/Muslims-guide-to-belting-the-wife.html

And here is a guide on how to do your duty as a Muslim husband :

An Islamic marriage guide that advises Muslim men on how to beat and control their wives has sparked outrage.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4218484/Muslims-guide-to-belting-the-wife.html

I'm against capital punishment... but a spot of flogging... at the triangle... would be appropriate (and maybe consistent with Sharia law?).

I'm against capital punishment... but a spot of flogging... at the triangle... would be appropriate (and maybe consistent with Sharia law?).

I am told that the guy doing the flogging has to hold a copy of the Q'ran under his arm, while carrying out the sentence.

This can limit the extent of punishment.

Well that will certainly restrict his actions if he has a copy of page 3 of the Sun in the other hand.