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Right wingers are so funny. They're been using dirty tricks for decades now. Such as demonizing gay people to raise money and get the anti-gay vote out to the polls.

And Left wingers are so clueless. It is a fact that the same sex marriage referendum in California in 2008 FAILED because of the high turnout of Obama-loving, Democrat, black and Hispanic voters casting their votes for Obama while at the same time voting against gay marriage. That has really got to hurt, doesn't it? Old, white, bible-thumping Republicans didn't defeat the same sex marriage referendum - anti-gay black & Hispanic Democrats did. Yee-ouch!

Totally irrelevant.

I am curious, though, why you seem to be obsessed with gay people. Care to explain?

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What a naive statement. There is a LOT more that can be gleaned from the tax forms than about cheating.

No, when a consensus of lots of polls is showing it's a two point lead, it is a two point lead. Denial ain't gonna save you.

It will take a lot of time for Romney to release hundreds of pages of tax documents. Hell, it took Obama 3 years to Photoshop on piece of sheet of his birth certificate so at that rate expect Romney's returns in a couple hundred years.

You don't seriously believe that racist BIRTHER garbage, do you? Even Romney has disassociated himself from that.

Again, what is Romney hiding?

No doubt something very politically toxic or he wouldn't be resisting so strongly.

Now the democrats are advancing a bill to require TEN YEARS returns from candidates.

This issue won't go away.

Romney won't cave and people will go to the polls KNOWING Romney is hiding something very bad.

As far as I can tell, this goes directly to what tax experts told me yesterday: It’s likely that Romney has paid a far lower tax rate in multiple years, and that this could help explain why Romney won’t release his returns. If he paid nothing in any given year, of course, that would be even more politically toxic. But even a far lower rate would be hard to explain. And as the experts told me, the returns could also reveal how Romney reduced his rates — whether he relied on “aggressive sheltering,” which would be politically very problematic, or more standard techniques, which would still be hard to explain, depending on how much lower his rate ended up being.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/still-more-holes-in-mitt-romneys-tax-returns/2012/07/18/gJQAEq40tW_blog.html

When you said donation bundlers I thought you were going to mention Jon Corzine. What are the odds Obama pardons this scum? That is if he even lets him get indicted.

Indicted?...Never going to happen

Pardon?....Most likely or just some kind of $$ fine....again

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Romney looking VERY weak. His character is being legitimately destroyed by the brilliant OBAMA campaign. First time in THIRTY YEARS that a prez candidate has only released one or two years of tax returns. TEN YEARS is normal. Something serious to hide, Mitt? This is getting delicious. Check multiple videos here. The second one he comes off as Mr. Howel/Richie McRich. Americans cannot relate to this BLUE BLOOD aristocrat! He is like Kerry on steroids. Right wingers, you picked a very, very bad choice. I am so glad.

http://www.huffingto..._n_1681425.html

The REAL Romney is coming out. It isn't pretty!

First time in THIRTY YEARS that a prez candidate has only released one or two years of tax returns.

Another blatant lie. There is good reason why I do not trust any of the claims in your political posts. With research, the great majority prove false, but I get tired of having to check every single thing that you say. John McCain released 2 years of tax returns in 2008 which is exactly what Romney wants to do. rolleyes.gif

I guess you guys never actually grok the fact that your lives are wholly consumed with the shadow and not the substance. The smoke and not the fire. The political version of E entertainment news. The peurile, facile, non-substantive arguments that people far smarter and more evil than yourselves have concocted for you to care about - today. They'll have another list for you tomorrow, without so much as a thanks for you carrying their water for them. "Thank You Sir, May I have Another".

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Romney will not relent. This issue will stick. He is hiding something. Probably a lot. Doesn't mean illegal. Just means politically damaging.

"He is hiding something."

Prove what he is hiding. If you are so certain then you must have some sort of documented facts to support it.

It will stick because the MSM wants it to stick and the Obama supporters will clutch at any straw to make it stick.

Strictly a distraction to change the subject of Obama's extremely poor performance for the first 3+ years of another failed Democratic Presidency.

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Again, what is Romney hiding?

No doubt something very politically toxic or he wouldn't be resisting so strongly.

Now the democrats are advancing a bill to require TEN YEARS returns from candidates.

This issue won't go away.

Romney won't cave and people will go to the polls KNOWING Romney is hiding something very bad.

As far as I can tell, this goes directly to what tax experts told me yesterday: It’s likely that Romney has paid a far lower tax rate in multiple years, and that this could help explain why Romney won’t release his returns. If he paid nothing in any given year, of course, that would be even more politically toxic. But even a far lower rate would be hard to explain. And as the experts told me, the returns could also reveal how Romney reduced his rates — whether he relied on “aggressive sheltering,” which would be politically very problematic, or more standard techniques, which would still be hard to explain, depending on how much lower his rate ended up being.

http://www.washingto...q40tW_blog.html

From your own link..."Romney’s Swiss account could shield many financial activities from American scrutiny. Hypothetically, any politically unpopular investments,"...COULD SHIELD and HYPOTHETICALLY?

and..." It’s likely that Romney has paid a far lower tax rate in multiple years,"...LIKELY?

Or..."If he paid nothing in any given year, of course, that would be even more politically toxic."...IF he paid nothing, that would make him the same as that famous Obama supporter, General Electric.

This..."There could be assets abroad"...COULD?

How about..."If HuffPo’s story is correct,"...Notice the word IF.

and...". But again, this is all speculative"...SPECULATIVE?

Now that is hard hitting journalism at its finest. The Washington Post referencing a Huffington Post article and all of it supposedly unbiased. Pulitzer prize in the mail for this piece of incisive investigative reporting.

Not to worry, though. The author admits his knowledge of this subject is from deep within his vast store of knowledge..."As far as I can tell, this goes directly to what tax experts told me yesterday" YESTERDAY?

What a joke.

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I guess you guys never actually grok the fact that your lives are wholly consumed with the shadow and not the substance. The smoke and not the fire. The political version of E entertainment news. The peurile, facile, non-substantive arguments that people far smarter and more evil than yourselves have concocted for you to care about - today. They'll have another list for you tomorrow, without so much as a thanks for you carrying their water for them. "Thank You Sir, May I have Another".

I couldn't agree more. We (I) are (am) as guilty as the MSM for falling into the trap of discussing this smoke and mirrors put out by his campaign rather than discussing the failed Presidency known as the Obama Administration.

Obama's problem is he cannot run on his so called successes. The only ones he has had are toxic to the American voters and would certainly not gain him any new voters. His campaign knows this better than anyone.

His Presidency is a failing one because of the remaining 14% unemployed and under-employed citizens and no known plan to rectify the situation, a foreign policy in disarray, lack of any cohesive energy policy, an $800 Billion stimulus that was badly thought out and even more poorly managed, a TSA that is out of control, an Attorney General that is at best dishonest and has already been held in contempt of Congress, crony capitalism to a new level, an EPA that is not regulated by the White House or Congress, a Labor Department that is in the pocket of big labor, a declining US military and International prestige...and these are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

We have major talking points and that should be our primary point of attack.

Here are some very good ISSUE reasons to vote for Obama:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/fareed-zakaria-romney-and-obamas-relevant-debate-over-americas-future/2012/07/18/gJQAjVhSuW_story.html

On the broader economic strategy, I think that Obama has the stronger case. We need a tax and regulatory structure that creates strong incentives for businesses to flourish. The thing is, we already have one. The World Economic Forum’s 2011-12 Global Competitiveness Report ranks the United States No. 5 — and first among large economies. There has been a little slippage in this ranking the past few years, but it is modest and can be rectified. Overall, however, whether compared with our own past — of, say, 30 years ago — or with other countries, the United States has become more business-friendly. That’s why, just last week, the Economist magazine predicted an American economic renaissance.

I agree with Zakaria. But I don't agree Obama can win with a clean issues campaign. Too complicated for simple minded American voters. I think he needs to get very dirty this time. Go for the jugular and don't relent. It's a shame but to win this it is worth it. For the country.

Too complicated for simple minded American voters.

laugh.png He would not be president now if it were not for (mainly) simple minded voters & those duped by

the broken promise of "hope & change"

Perhaps he should stick to his usual?

You know? "Yes We Can" to later be followed by...well they really screwed it up before I arrived.

Hmmm actually that will not work this time eh?

Too complicated for simple minded American voters.

laugh.png He would not be president now if it were not for (mainly) simple minded voters & those duped by

the broken promise of "hope & change"

Perhaps he should stick to his usual?

You know? "Yes We Can" to later be followed by...well they really screwed it up before I arrived.

Hmmm actually that will not work this time eh?

No he can't win the same way as last time. You want him to lose. I want him to win. This time it needs to be different. Left wingers are sick and tired of the right wingers owning the dirty campaign tricks game. This time we've learned. We're going to beat you at your own game. For the country. Believe me the Obama base LOVES that Obama is not afraid now to attack, attack, attack!

No he can't win the same way as last time. You want him to lose.

Yes True....Because the majority understand....fool me once shame on you...Fool me twice shame on me.

Secondly I do not want America to lose wink.png

Sadly I do not see any alternative given the two choices discussed here.

But....forced to pick the least worse of the two....

I already know the incumbent is not capable.

Left wingers are sick and tired of the right wingers owning the dirty campaign tricks game.

The left has always used dirty tricks. Just ask Hillary.

But I don't agree Obama can win with a clean issues campaign.

That's for sure.

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But I don't agree Obama can win with a clean issues campaign.

That's for sure.

Obama%2527s%2Bbill.jpg

Food stamps are a win win. Good for farmers. Good for hungry people. Good for the economy. What's your problem?

Left wingers are sick and tired of the right wingers owning the dirty campaign tricks game.

The left has always used dirty tricks. Just ask Hillary.

Hilary's right. Obama did nothing but "give aid and comfort to special interests" in pasting together this botch-up of a healthcare program. No cojones. He talked a good game but now he has to defend his caving in to every single special interest from Wall Street to Healthcare to Defense to Green Energy scams ( isee there's a new one today). I never seen a politician pay so much for votes and still be leading by the skin of his teeth. It's that dam_n record of his that's weighing him down. NO jobs plan. No enforcement of lawbreakers. People arenb't as stupid as he thinks.

He's now a known quantity.Romney is an unknown though seemingly flawed candidate. I think people may decide to roll the dice on him as the status quo is so bad.

What a naive statement. There is a LOT more that can be gleaned from the tax forms than about cheating.

No, when a consensus of lots of polls is showing it's a two point lead, it is a two point lead. Denial ain't gonna save you.

It will take a lot of time for Romney to release hundreds of pages of tax documents. Hell, it took Obama 3 years to Photoshop on piece of sheet of his birth certificate so at that rate expect Romney's returns in a couple hundred years.

If Obama has Photoshop his birth certificate, he has committed a federal offence. by altering an official document.

An offence that would be easy to prove and be subject for impeachment. If the Republicans have not fingered this out yet they must be morons.

So which is it? is it that his birth certificate is real or is it that republicans are morons, or is it both?

But I don't agree Obama can win with a clean issues campaign.

That's for sure.

Obama%2527s%2Bbill.jpg

Food stamps are a win win. Good for farmers. Good for hungry people. Good for the economy. What's your problem?

As wth most government programs, too many people getting them that shouldn't.

But I don't agree Obama can win with a clean issues campaign.

That's for sure.

Obama%2527s%2Bbill.jpg

Food stamps are a win win. Good for farmers. Good for hungry people. Good for the economy. What's your problem?

As wth most government programs, too many people getting them that shouldn't.

More people should get them. Food stamps rock!

Here are some very good ISSUE reasons to vote for Obama:

On the broader economic strategy, I think that Obama has the stronger case. We need a tax and regulatory structure that creates strong incentives for businesses to flourish. The thing is, we already have one. The World Economic Forum’s 2011-12 Global Competitiveness Report ranks the United States No. 5 — and first among large economies. There has been a little slippage in this ranking the past few years, but it is modest and can be rectified.

When you're #1 for several years running and drop to #5, IT IS NOT a "little slippage" or "modest".,

2011-2012 USA # 5 [Obama]

2010-2011 USA # 4 [Obama]

2009-2010 USA # 2 [Obama]

2008-2009 USA # 1 [Not Obama]

2007-2008 USA # 1 [Not Obama]

2006-2007 USA # 1 [Not Obama]

Sources:

http://maaw.info/Wor...nessReports.htm

http://en.wikipedia....tiveness_Report

What a naive statement. There is a LOT more that can be gleaned from the tax forms than about cheating.

No, when a consensus of lots of polls is showing it's a two point lead, it is a two point lead. Denial ain't gonna save you.

It will take a lot of time for Romney to release hundreds of pages of tax documents. Hell, it took Obama 3 years to Photoshop on piece of sheet of his birth certificate so at that rate expect Romney's returns in a couple hundred years.

If Obama has Photoshop his birth certificate, he has committed a federal offence. by altering an official document.

An offence that would be easy to prove and be subject for impeachment. If the Republicans have not fingered this out yet they must be morons.

So which is it? is it that his birth certificate is real or is it that republicans are morons, or is it both?

Below is a link to one video that goes through how it was altered with Photoshop. For me, there is no proof each image comes from where the presenter says it does so I don't pay much attention to it. This issue doesn't get any play in the MSM because the issue is a non-starter. Just wait for JT to start screaming "BIRTHER! BIRTHER! Anyone who questions it is labelled a nut - even if you have the riches of Donald Trump. In the end, faking the document DOES NOT prove he wasn't born in Hawaii. It just proves the White House forgers are amateurs. Personally, I think he was born in Hawaii because of the newspaper birth announcements at the time.

Why don't the Republicans do anything about it? I would say because it would be the biggest mess the world has ever seen. And an embarrassment on top of that. Best just to hope to defeat the guy in November. Imagin IF it were to turn out that Obama wasn't born in the USA and was ineligible to be President? Everything he signed would be null and void. The only thing that would survive his presidency would be his golf handicap.

Since Jingthing claims that one or two points in the polls are so important (only when Obama is leading), Romney is ahead again. The stupid statement about business owners not being responsible for their own success seems to have really struck a nerve.

A new CBS/New York Times poll gives presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney a two-point edge over President Obama, the first time Mr. Romney has led in the survey since early January.

Mr. Romney has taken the lead in the poll despite a torrent of negative advertising in recent months from the Obama campaign http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/jul/19/romney-edges-obama-cbs-new-york-times-poll/

What a naive statement. There is a LOT more that can be gleaned from the tax forms than about cheating.

No, when a consensus of lots of polls is showing it's a two point lead, it is a two point lead. Denial ain't gonna save you.

It will take a lot of time for Romney to release hundreds of pages of tax documents. Hell, it took Obama 3 years to Photoshop on piece of sheet of his birth certificate so at that rate expect Romney's returns in a couple hundred years.

If Obama has Photoshop his birth certificate, he has committed a federal offence. by altering an official document.

An offence that would be easy to prove and be subject for impeachment. If the Republicans have not fingered this out yet they must be morons.

So which is it? is it that his birth certificate is real or is it that republicans are morons, or is it both?

Below is a link to one video that goes through how it was altered with Photoshop. For me, there is no proof each image comes from where the presenter says it does so I don't pay much attention to it. This issue doesn't get any play in the MSM because the issue is a non-starter. Just wait for JT to start screaming "BIRTHER! BIRTHER! Anyone who questions it is labelled a nut - even if you have the riches of Donald Trump. In the end, faking the document DOES NOT prove he wasn't born in Hawaii. It just proves the White House forgers are amateurs. Personally, I think he was born in Hawaii because of the newspaper birth announcements at the time.

Why don't the Republicans do anything about it? I would say because it would be the biggest mess the world has ever seen. And an embarrassment on top of that. Best just to hope to defeat the guy in November. Imagin IF it were to turn out that Obama wasn't born in the USA and was ineligible to be President? Everything he signed would be null and void. The only thing that would survive his presidency would be his golf handicap.

The Republicans did not mind impeaching Bill Clinton over a Blow Job, but I am glad to hear that the have now attained a new found civil responsibility, that prevents them from attacking Prez. Obama for the good of the country.whistling.gif

Clinton was not impeached for the BJ, but for his bad taste in mistresses and he was Guilty, Guilty Guilty!

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