step daughter and logic

[lovelomsak]

My stepdaughter appears to me to be more interested in showing she is in control of her own demise than anything else. I would like to explain.

A few months ago my stepdaughetr wanted a cell phone {the daughter is 14 years old }, So i told her she could have one but spend no more than 10,000 baht. We went shopping,she found the phone she wanted but it was 16,000 baht I told her that is more than I will spend. She said if she doesnot get that phone she doesnot want a phone. She still doesnot have a phone to this day.Has to borrow freinds phones to make calls.

Her older brother started university at Rangsit and received a new honda wave to get around. She felt she should get a new motorcycle too.So ok we decide to buy her a new Wave also.But no she wants the 125 mini bike that uses a clutch.I ask the wife can the daughter drive a bike with a clutch. She said no she cannot. I said why buy her the bike ? Wife replies she wants that bike,simple. Then I ask does she have a drivers license that agian was no. So we told her she gets a honda Wave or nothing. She said she would think about it. So now no motorcycle.

So here was a 14 year old girl who could have had a fairly good mobile and new honda Wave,but has nothing because she didnot get exactly what she wanted. I think her friends must get tired of her borrowing their phones and driving her everywhere.

She wants to be in contol so much she cuts her nose off to spite her face.

Times like this I am happy she is a stepdaughter not my flesh and blood.

My big question about this is Is this behaviour common among young people?

[transam]

She would be driving illegally at 14. At 15 can drive a 110 cc bike until 18, 125 after. If she had an accident you would be in deep doo doo.

My wife gave her son her Honda Airblade, nice bike. He would not use it cos someone had a trendy bike . She bought him a trendy bike of which l am not happy about.

[canuckamuck]

A 14 year old should have 1500 baht cell phone, if any, and should not be allowed to drive. I would say she is helping you out, with her attitude.

[David48]

My wife gave her son her Honda Airblade, nice bike. He would not use it cos someone had a trendy bike . She bought him a trendy bike of which l am not happy about.

Man ... I thought YOU were the head of the house ...

I hope you cut her favours down to once a week to teach her a lesson!

Please reinstall favours to bi-weekly once lesson has been taught.

[transam]

My wife gave her son her Honda Airblade, nice bike. He would not use it cos someone had a trendy bike . She bought him a trendy bike of which l am not happy about.

Man ... I thought YOU were the head of the house ...

I hope you cut her favours down to once a week to teach her a lesson!

Please reinstall favours to bi-weekly once lesson has been taught.

Nooooooooo, she bought it via her budget, so l eat every other day now.

[slapout]

At 14, the stepdaughter is going to try to work the system to get what she wants or what her friends tell her she wants. Her attitude toward material things and how to get them, will be shaped over the next few years by you and her mother. The kids try to play daddy against mother, pouting, threatening, screaming, silent treatment, etc

Set the rules/conditions, keep them fair, be consiistent, and hang on for the ride.If you and her mother work together, the finished product (maturity) could be your pride and joy.

[GirlDrinkDrunk]

sounds like both of you want to control her fate. I personally admire the kid for knowing what she wants.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

Saving you money is good, isn't it?

If she were my step-daughter I would be most careful to always offer less than she wants.

Edited August 29, 2013 by AnotherOneAmerican

[jocko]

You are asking about young peoples logic you could include most Thais in that question.

I wonder if she will think about it and change her mind.

You done the right thing under difficult circumstances.

[transam]

sounds like both of you want to control her fate. I personally admire the kid for knowing what she wants.

To ride a bike illegally. .....................Gawd 'elp us.................

[jocko]

sounds like both of you want to control her fate. I personally admire the kid for knowing what she wants.

14 year old's know what they want and if they stick it out they will get it.

Thats logic

[MrRealDeal]

Yes the behavior of wanting decent stuff is quite common amoung all people kids included , the behavior of parents being douchebags and not allowing them the decent stuff they can easily afford is less common. Hope that helps

[MrRealDeal]

You are the cheap Charlie who would rather see your step kid have no phone or transportation to save a few bucks you don't even need and since your friends and neighbors know it's nonsense have to try and gain sympathy on the internet from random strangers ........ who is the one cutting the nose off ? her ? or you ? ........... you are the one who is refusing to give your step kid a decent product you can easily afford so you look like a cheap Charlie douchebag ..... and you are ....... It's you who is cutting your own nose off to spite your own face because you are wanting to save a couple of bucks you don't need to look like and be a douchebag parent instead and the only hope in hell of getting anyone to side with you is on the internet.

[kennedy]

Typical comments from the elites that worked for everything they had from birth.

[transam]

Yes the behavior of wanting decent stuff is quite common amoung all people kids included , the behavior of parents being douchebags and not allowing them the decent stuff they can easily afford is less common. Hope that helps

Seems you have never heard the word ''show'' or ''face''. Been there, got the T-shirt. A youngsters friends who KNOW a farang ''millionaire'' is involved is supposed to have the best and be king, queen of their chums. BUT, you carry on and see what happens in your kids latter life.

[Berkshire]

When I was 14 (in America), I wanted these pair of sneakers that all the other kids had (Converse All-Stars). My parents refused and bought me a cheapo pair of K-mart specials. Didn't go over well with the other kids at all. That really, really pissed me off. It's amazing how we remember these things.

[thaicbr]

You are the cheap Charlie who would rather see your step kid have no phone or transportation to save a few bucks you don't even need and since your friends and neighbors know it's nonsense have to try and gain sympathy on the internet from random strangers ........  who is the one cutting the nose off ?  her ? or you ? ........... you are the one who is refusing to give your step kid a decent product you can easily afford so you look like a cheap Charlie douchebag ..... and you are ....... It's you who is cutting your own nose off to spite your own face because you are wanting to save a couple of bucks you don't need to look like and be a douchebag parent instead and the only hope in hell of getting anyone to side with you is on the internet.

Your a dick.

I totally agree with the Op about making sure teenagers understand the value of things. Thailand and the world in general is getting f@#ked up by people who are ignorant and think money is the be all and end all of happiness.

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[NanLaew]

What's the issue here. The girls attitude is saving the OP money and keeping her out of the ER.

Why the OP wants to get inside the head of any teenager is beyond me.

[kennedy]

When I was 14 (in America), I wanted these pair of sneakers that all the other kids had (Converse All-Stars). My parents refused and bought me a cheapo pair of K-mart specials. Didn't go over well with the other kids at all. That really, really pissed me off. It's amazing how we remember these things.

When I was 14, I worked for them, and paid for them. and I wore them.

same sneekers

Edited August 29, 2013 by kennedy

[NanLaew]

When I was 14 (in America), I wanted these pair of sneakers that all the other kids had (Converse All-Stars). My parents refused and bought me a cheapo pair of K-mart specials. Didn't go over well with the other kids at all. That really, really pissed me off. It's amazing how we remember these things.

I think it's more worrying how 'we' can't forget these things.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

When I was 14 (in America), I wanted these pair of sneakers that all the other kids had (Converse All-Stars). My parents refused and bought me a cheapo pair of K-mart specials. Didn't go over well with the other kids at all. That really, really pissed me off. It's amazing how we remember these things.

When I was 14, I worked for them, and paid for them. and I wore them.

My parents didn't give me much in the way of material goods, and I never expected them to.

Home, food, love and the opportunity for education were enough for me.

But brand name stuff didn't exist much when I was a kid (apart from Coca Cola).

[transam]

When I was 14 (in America), I wanted these pair of sneakers that all the other kids had (Converse All-Stars). My parents refused and bought me a cheapo pair of K-mart specials. Didn't go over well with the other kids at all. That really, really pissed me off. It's amazing how we remember these things.

I think it's more worrying how 'we' can't forget these things.

I think it good that we don't forget and point kids in the right direction instead of holding their hands out to folk cos they think money grows on trees.

[MrRealDeal]

You are the cheap Charlie who would rather see your step kid have no phone or transportation to save a few bucks you don't even need and since your friends and neighbors know it's nonsense have to try and gain sympathy on the internet from random strangers ........ who is the one cutting the nose off ? her ? or you ? ........... you are the one who is refusing to give your step kid a decent product you can easily afford so you look like a cheap Charlie douchebag ..... and you are ....... It's you who is cutting your own nose off to spite your own face because you are wanting to save a couple of bucks you don't need to look like and be a douchebag parent instead and the only hope in hell of getting anyone to side with you is on the internet.

Your a dick.

I totally agree with the Op about making sure teenagers understand the value of things. Thailand and the world in general is getting f@#ked up by people who are ignorant and think money is the be all and end all of happiness.

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People who tell it like it is are always called dicks ....it's you're not your btw .... it's not about money it's about quality and nice things , it's just that quality and nice things cost more and the op and I guess you and other posters are to cheap to care about that when it comes to your Thai step kids ..... if that makes you sleep better at night fine by me.

[NanLaew]

....cheap Charlie ...cutting the nose off ...cheap Charlie douchebag ...cutting your own nose ...douchebag parent ...

2 x cheap Charlie

2 x nose cutting

2 x douchebag

Wow! That was insightful.

[kennedy]

You are the cheap Charlie who would rather see your step kid have no phone or transportation to save a few bucks you don't even need and since your friends and neighbors know it's nonsense have to try and gain sympathy on the internet from random strangers ........ who is the one cutting the nose off ? her ? or you ? ........... you are the one who is refusing to give your step kid a decent product you can easily afford so you look like a cheap Charlie douchebag ..... and you are ....... It's you who is cutting your own nose off to spite your own face because you are wanting to save a couple of bucks you don't need to look like and be a douchebag parent instead and the only hope in hell of getting anyone to side with you is on the internet.

Your a dick.

I totally agree with the Op about making sure teenagers understand the value of things. Thailand and the world in general is getting f@#ked up by people who are ignorant and think money is the be all and end all of happiness.

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People who tell it like it is are always called dicks ....it's you're not your btw .... it's not about money it's about quality and nice things , it's just that quality and nice things cost more and the op and I guess you and other posters are to cheap to care about that when it comes to your Thai step kids ..... if that makes you sleep better at night fine by me.

My wife is CHEAP.My stepson has grown into a fine young man.

[NanLaew]

My oldest stepdaughter wanted a phone, she got one, about 1100 baht if I recall.

The younger stepdaughter also got one because her big sister had one. Again about 1100 baht.

Two months later, one is broken and the other was 'stolen'. Both because some 'friends' did it.

That was about 2 years ago, no phones (out of my pocket) since and nobody is complaining.

If you give kids expensive shit, you are a mug. Grown up's expectation of having iPhone's and iPad's and all that other techy <deleted> that 'friends' can't live without is bad enough without starting the kids on that track.

[transam]

My oldest stepdaughter wanted a phone, she got one, about 1100 baht if I recall.

The younger stepdaughter also got one because her big sister had one. Again about 1100 baht.

Two months later, one is broken and the other was 'stolen'. Both because some 'friends' did it.

That was about 2 years ago, no phones (out of my pocket) since and nobody is complaining.

If you give kids expensive shit, you are a mug. Grown up's expectation of having iPhone's and iPad's and all that other techy <deleted> that 'friends' can't live without is bad enough without starting the kids on that track.

My wife's daughter kept having phones stolen , her father kept replacing them. Turned out she was selling them to get a later model.

[thaicbr]

 

You are the cheap Charlie who would rather see your step kid have no phone or transportation to save a few bucks you don't even need and since your friends and neighbors know it's nonsense have to try and gain sympathy on the internet from random strangers ........  who is the one cutting the nose off ?  her ? or you ? ........... you are the one who is refusing to give your step kid a decent product you can easily afford so you look like a cheap Charlie douchebag ..... and you are ....... It's you who is cutting your own nose off to spite your own face because you are wanting to save a couple of bucks you don't need to look like and be a douchebag parent instead and the only hope in hell of getting anyone to side with you is on the internet.

Your a dick.

I totally agree with the Op about making sure teenagers understand the value of things. Thailand and the world in general is getting f@#ked up by people who are ignorant and think money is the be all and end all of happiness.

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 People who tell it like it is are always called dicks ....it's you're not your btw .... it's not about money it's about quality and nice things , it's just that quality and nice things cost more and the op and I guess you and other posters are to cheap to care about that when it comes to your Thai step kids ..... if that makes you sleep better at night fine by me.

No. Your just a dick that thinks money is everything. The Op offered a mobile up to 10,000b. That's not cheap. There are many decent phones at that price..same for the bike.. teenagers need to learn the value of money for when they grow up and earn their own.

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[ABCer]

It is not about money parents can afford to spend.

It is not about kids having good taste or knowing what they want.

It is about kids growing into adult life with a right attitude.

And the first right attitude - needs and wants are different.

Until they are standing on their own feet - they need a place, food, clothing, TLC and good education.

Anything more than that backfires on them (psychologically) and on parents (financially).

The second right attitude - whatever you want extra - earn it one way or another.

Any other way - you are bringing up a brat! And a future parasite. They will be a burden to parents, their future wives/husbands or society. Quite often to all three.

I must admit I was disgusted by brats before I came here. Always and in every country.

Edited August 29, 2013 by ABCer

[Gsxrnz]

You are the cheap Charlie who would rather see your step kid have no phone or transportation to save a few bucks you don't even need and since your friends and neighbors know it's nonsense have to try and gain sympathy on the internet from random strangers ........ who is the one cutting the nose off ? her ? or you ? ........... you are the one who is refusing to give your step kid a decent product you can easily afford so you look like a cheap Charlie douchebag ..... and you are ....... It's you who is cutting your own nose off to spite your own face because you are wanting to save a couple of bucks you don't need to look like and be a douchebag parent instead and the only hope in hell of getting anyone to side with you is on the internet.

Your a dick.

I totally agree with the Op about making sure teenagers understand the value of things. Thailand and the world in general is getting f@#ked up by people who are ignorant and think money is the be all and end all of happiness.

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People who tell it like it is are always called dicks ....it's you're not your btw .... it's not about money it's about quality and nice things , it's just that quality and nice things cost more and the op and I guess you and other posters are to cheap to care about that when it comes to your Thai step kids ..... if that makes you sleep better at night fine by me.

No. Your just a dick that thinks money is everything. The Op offered a mobile up to 10,000b. That's not cheap. There are many decent phones at that price..same for the bike.. teenagers need to learn the value of money for when they grow up and earn their own.

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I wonder how many kids Mr Realdeal has raised......and if he has procreated, which particular correction facility they're currently in?

Or perhaps he's not long out of nappies himself, hence the 14 year old attitude he displays.