What am I going to do?

[bifftastic]

Open up, dont be afraid. Its anonymus.

I'm just tired. Really tired. And it's sad, because I'm only 31, and am honestly a really great guy. I've lived in I think 7 different countries now, traveled to many others, been rich, been poor, been totally in love with it being returned, being totally heart broken, and the list goes on.

I don't know. Doesn't matter.

It does matter. Never think it doesnt matter there is always somone you can turn too. Post me if you need to talk . it costs nothing . So feel free to talk .

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Absolutely right. It does matter. Even if when you rationalise things and decide that you're feeling low for no 'good reason' it's how you feel. No use denying it. Feelings are what they are. If you share them with someone, you may well discover what's causing them.

At the very least, you will have found someone to talk to. It's often best to talk to someone you don't know very well, someone who is perhaps more objective than those close to you.

Open up, to yourself and others. I know it works.

I hope you feel able to take up kevvy's kind offer. You can message me too if you like. We're all in this world together, sometimes it's important to reach out, just for reaching out's sake.

[bifftastic]

Open up, dont be afraid. Its anonymus.

I'm just tired. Really tired. And it's sad, because I'm only 31, and am honestly a really great guy. I've lived in I think 7 different countries now, traveled to many others, been rich, been poor, been totally in love with it being returned, being totally heart broken, and the list goes on.

I don't know. Doesn't matter.

It does matter. Never think it doesnt matter there is always somone you can turn too. Post me if you need to talk . it costs nothing . So feel free to talk .

Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Absolutely right. It does matter. Even if when you rationalise things and decide that you're feeling low for no 'good reason' it's how you feel. No use denying it. Feelings are what they are. If you share them with someone, you may well discover what's causing them.

At the very least, you will have found someone to talk to. It's often best to talk to someone you don't know very well, someone who is perhaps more objective than those close to you.

Open up, to yourself and others. I know it works.

I hope you feel able to take up kevvy's kind offer. You can message me too if you like. We're all in this world together, sometimes it's important to reach out, just for reaching out's sake.

[johntren]

Can only share my own experience. When in my thirties I tried to kill myself. I failed. And you know what? Every truly wonderful & magical thing in my long life happened AFTER I failed. When I'm down I reflect on that and I'm not down any longer.

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[JoeThePoster]

move away from the balcony...

To be clear, go back in to the room.

[FredLee]

Bewildered, Bewildered...

You have no complaint

You are what your are and you ain't what you ain't

So listen up Buster, and listen up good

Stop wishing for bad luck and knocking on wood

So sayeth Mr. Prine. This one certainly goes back a long way! Thanks, brought a smile to my face this morning.

[MrWorldwide]

OP, *if* you are serious, this is probably the last place I would come to for counselling. Pretty much everyone on TV is rich, attractive from head to toe and has zero problems - if you are serious, you need to treat this seriously. You're not a child, and you know what a counsellor is - good luck.

Apparantly you havent read the thread.

Unless I see a Diploma, I'm going to assume that everyone here is an amateur. Sure, we all have life experiences, but there is a point where people need to seek real help from professionals - that remains my advice to the OP. I dont want to turn this into a to-and-fro : this isn't a discussion about the evils of Pattaya.

[Nautilus05]

Unless I see a Diploma, I'm going to assume that everyone here is an amateur. Sure, we all have life experiences, but there is a point where people need to seek real help from professionals - that remains my advice to the OP. I dont want to turn this into a to-and-fro : this isn't a discussion about the evils of Pattaya.

No, I don't need a shrink. I'm not in the mood to waste my time and money, sitting in some office playing mind games with some shrink. Could use some seratonin though, which I think I might do. I actually slightly know a doctor at one of the clinics in town -- educated in Australia, and she seems to love the chance to practice English. Will go see if I can get some mild SSRI off her.

But yeah, this is bad. And I already know it's not going away easily.

[aveabeeror2]

Open up, dont be afraid. Its anonymus.

I'm just tired. Really tired. And it's sad, because I'm only 31, and am honestly a really great guy. I've lived in I think 7 different countries now, traveled to many others, been rich, been poor, been totally in love with it being returned, being totally heart broken, and the list goes on.

I don't know. Doesn't matter.

We on TV dont know how bad your condition is, just remember....Death is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

[Hawkman]

From past experience and whenever the world gets on top of me, I follow these steps and it WILL make you better.

1) As someone else said, WRITE it down. Don't just write one line, write exactly what the whole problem is. If you get it down onto a notepad, then it's out of your head and onto paper. If it's just swirling around your head then, there will be more questions etc.

2) Never ask yourself the question - "Why?" 'Why' is a pointless question, so is 'What am I gonna do?' it leads to nothing, you can't answer it, your brain doesn't have the answers to future unknowns. Instead, ask more specific questions, but in a positive sense, such as What can I do to make this problem go away?, Where do I want to be 6 months from now? What steps can I take to make myself happy and content by a certain time? - Just don't ask negative questions, like - 'Why does this always happen to me?' or 'What am I gonna do?' as your brain doesn't have the answers, it only knows life and knowledge from your past and present experiences.

3) Socialise with friends, get out of your head, talk about things, enjoy life. Drink can numb a little, but don't drink too much and get drunk - the hangover will make you feel 10 times worse.

4) Read some NLP; it's not really a Think Positive type book, it goes deeper into why we think a certain way and gets into the root of our beliefs and the reason we think and do things. Try it, it's a great way to change the way your perceive things in life, yourself etc.

5) Exercise. Even if a little. It will give you serotin.

6) A must - Stay away from any sort of illegal narcotics, class A's and weed emphasise certain parts of your consciousness and subconsciousness; so think what that will do to you if you are feeling down.

If it's a Thailand girl thing, many of us have all been there, felt like a complete mug, invested money and pride, only to look like a complete tool to friends and family back home. It happens. Learn from it. There will be better experiences in the future. There are many, many honest girls out here. Don't worry what other people think; you will get comments from idiots on here, saying well one sucker born each day; but they are probably ones who are being suckered as we speak, but are too blind to see. It's not what others think of you, it's what you think of yourself. You can make as many mistakes as you want from life, it's how you deal with it that matters to yourself.

[MrWorldwide]

Sensational post, Hawkman.

[bocceball1]

“When you're lost in those woods, it sometimes takes you a while to realize that you are lost. For the longest time, you can convince yourself that you've just wandered off the path, that you'll find your way back to the trailhead any moment now. Then night falls again and again, and you still have no idea where you are, and it's time to admit that you have bewildered yourself so far off the path that you don't even know from which direction the sun rises anymore.”

Good first step...talking it out ...but it was said earlier ...(and it helped me also)...Start a journal (I know its not a fix all) but write down what you "feel" ...do it for a week (at least) ...take it a day at a time.

[Silurian]

Ah, depression my old friend. I wrap you around me in an attempt to find comfort where there is none. What will you do to me this time? Will you lead me further into apathy where I find myself lost to any form of interest? Will you lead me to despair where I find myself wondering if the end will hurt or not? Will you bring to me items of my self destruction? Why must you come when I can least handle it? Why must you take so much away? Why do I let you in again and again? I am not strong enough to leave you on my own. Yet part of me doesn't want it to leave. Part of me likes to dwell in the inky blackness.

Hello, wish you weren't here, please don't leave and see you again soon.

[kevvy]

Unless I see a Diploma, I'm going to assume that everyone here is an amateur. Sure, we all have life experiences, but there is a point where people need to seek real help from professionals - that remains my advice to the OP. I dont want to turn this into a to-and-fro : this isn't a discussion about the evils of Pattaya.

No, I don't need a shrink. I'm not in the mood to waste my time and money, sitting in some office playing mind games with some shrink. Could use some seratonin though, which I think I might do. I actually slightly know a doctor at one of the clinics in town -- educated in Australia, and she seems to love the chance to practice English. Will go see if I can get some mild SSRI off her.

But yeah, this is bad. And I already know it's not going away easily.

The most basic of all human needs is the need to understand and be understood.The best way to understand people is to listen to them.

When we all listen it makes you feel accepted, understood, important, valued and validated. It gives you a voice to help you find yourself again. It reminds you that you are not invisible or alone.

To all members Take the time to really listen today, and see how it changes other people’s lives, and maybe yours too. Have a good day

Kevvy

[taotoo]

OP, *if* you are serious, this is probably the last place I would come to for counselling. Pretty much everyone on TV is rich, attractive from head to toe and has zero problems - if you are serious, you need to treat this seriously. You're not a child, and you know what a counsellor is - good luck.

Apparantly you havent read the thread.

Or looked at his own avatar.

[MrWorldwide]

OP, *if* you are serious, this is probably the last place I would come to for counselling. Pretty much everyone on TV is rich, attractive from head to toe and has zero problems - if you are serious, you need to treat this seriously. You're not a child, and you know what a counsellor is - good luck.

Apparantly you havent read the thread.

Or looked at his own avatar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitbull_(rapper)

For a guy who started with nothing, I'd say Senor Perez is doing OK, even if rap isn't my first preference musically.

[Samaaw]

you should have a close friend to talk to... in person.. if you can.N

Nothing is so bad that cannot be overcome... and the only thing to fear is fear itself.

If you have an illness (even HIV or Cancer) there is some help available.. sometimes it would be best to go home to your country for the support you need

Just DO NOT leave this... sort it out, whatever it is ASAP - then you will feel alot better within yourself..

Hope you will be ok !!

[Andre0720]

Open up, dont be afraid. Its anonymus.

I'm just tired. Really tired. And it's sad, because I'm only 31, and am honestly a really great guy. I've lived in I think 7 different countries now, traveled to many others, been rich, been poor, been totally in love with it being returned, being totally heart broken, and the list goes on.

I don't know. Doesn't matter.

Lucky enough to have been totally heartbroken.

You must have had some great ones...

There will be more.

Just admire the beautiful clouds while you wait for the next one who will take your breath away...

[Mudcrab]

Unless I see a Diploma, I'm going to assume that everyone here is an amateur. Sure, we all have life experiences, but there is a point where people need to seek real help from professionals - that remains my advice to the OP. I dont want to turn this into a to-and-fro : this isn't a discussion about the evils of Pattaya.

No, I don't need a shrink. I'm not in the mood to waste my time and money, sitting in some office playing mind games with some shrink. Could use some seratonin though, which I think I might do. I actually slightly know a doctor at one of the clinics in town -- educated in Australia, and she seems to love the chance to practice English. Will go see if I can get some mild SSRI off her.

But yeah, this is bad. And I already know it's not going away easily.

Mate ask for Endep or one of the other serotonin replacement drugs. I know it makes you feel like shit - a hangover every morning - but it works and you can stop taking it after a while. I used it just like any other medication...took me a couple of years and the Black Dog went away.

[SOTIRIOS]

...I am willing to listen....

...I am not able to help myself....but I am very good at helping others...and giving them good advice...

[bra]

There is a solution for every problem. Look at yours objectively, and if there are things you cant change, then move on to what you can change. If you can break down your problems into smaller items - you will have much more chance of solutions if you solve them one by one. When you do solve a small problem it gives you heart and you then go on to the next one and so on.

I agree write things down and rule through them when you have a resolution - looking at a page of resolved items is great for your morale. Finally you are never never alone. Many who have responded to you have been through bad times too and know what you are feeling and are ready to help. Stay with it and lets know how you are getting on - we are all compassionate and interested in you progress.

[transam]

OP, I was with and married to a lady for 25 years. She decided to do something different cos she said she only lived once. I still have not got over it.

[MJP]

Unless I see a Diploma, I'm going to assume that everyone here is an amateur. Sure, we all have life experiences, but there is a point where people need to seek real help from professionals - that remains my advice to the OP. I dont want to turn this into a to-and-fro : this isn't a discussion about the evils of Pattaya.

No, I don't need a shrink. I'm not in the mood to waste my time and money, sitting in some office playing mind games with some shrink. Could use some seratonin though, which I think I might do. I actually slightly know a doctor at one of the clinics in town -- educated in Australia, and she seems to love the chance to practice English. Will go see if I can get some mild SSRI off her.

But yeah, this is bad. And I already know it's not going away easily.

Es-citalopram is what you need old boy. I get severe bouts of depression and if it gets to the point I'm near comatose with it I hit the es-citalopram. Been many years since I have so perhaps there have been further advances.

You've made the best first step. Openly admitting it to yourself you have depression and to us bunch of hapless clowns! Talking really does help too.

[ajonfree]

Do nothing except live in the moment. Be aware of what is going on outside you and inside you and accept it all as it is. Do this and all conflict will be removed from your life. It's all in the mind you know?

[MrMalarkey]

Do nothing except live in the moment. Be aware of what is going on outside you and inside you and accept it all as it is. Do this and all conflict will be removed from your life. It's all in the mind you know?

What do you do with the conflict of the moment?

[aussieinthailand]

Life is like a box of chocolates,,, you never know what ur gonna get,,, "Forrest Gump"

[benalibina]

My old man told me 25 years ago;

You will only understand life when you have experienced "black snow".

He was right.

[krisb]

Open up, dont be afraid. Its anonymus.

Very valid point. A lot of us do on here. It truly can be a great talking space thai visa forum. Sometimes I find myself talking to members about things even before I would talk to family about it.

[hellodolly]

Open up, dont be afraid. Its anonymus.

I'm just tired. Really tired. And it's sad, because I'm only 31, and am honestly a really great guy. I've lived in I think 7 different countries now, traveled to many others, been rich, been poor, been totally in love with it being returned, being totally heart broken, and the list goes on.

I don't know. Doesn't matter.

Sounds like you have never sat still long enough to find out who you are much less what to do. Start with a 10 day retreat in a Wat.

[hellodolly]

Do nothing except live in the moment. Be aware of what is going on outside you and inside you and accept it all as it is. Do this and all conflict will be removed from your life. It's all in the mind you know?

Sounds good.

There are actually hermits who practice that.

Many Monks spend years trying to get to the point where they can always be in the moment and aware of all that goes on around them.

I do realize that the moment is all that I physically have but my mind likes to recall joyful moments and make plans for joyful moments in the future.

[balo]

Take a deep breath

And stay away from balconies.