December 12, 201312 yr Sweden seeks closer defence cooperation with Thailand BANGKOK: -- State Secretary of Swedish Ministry for Defence State Secretary Carl von der Esch visited Thailand recently to discuss issues of common interest related to the defence cooperation. During the visit the State Secretary met with the Deputy Chief of Defence Forces Admiral Amorntep Na Bangchang, Chief of Airforce ACM Prajin Juntong and Chief of Navy Admiral Narong Pipatanasai. The State Secretary also visited Wing 7 in Surat Thani, the airbase that hosts the Thai Gripen aircraft and the Swedish Support Group.In the photo: State Secretary and Chief of Navy Admiral Narong Pipatanasai.Photo credits: Capt Punnarong YuthavongSource: Embassy of Sweden in ThailandSource: http://scandasia.com/sweden-seeks-closer-defence-cooperation-thailand/-- ScandAsia 2013-12-12
December 12, 201312 yr Sweden lost the race for the jets-sale to the US Joint Strike Fighter. Now try Thailand.
December 12, 201312 yr How does that work ? Geographically and capabilitily impossible. Just sweden selling planes.
December 12, 201312 yr Popular Post Joint exercise in the snow Just in time to meet Ludolf the Lednosed Leindeer!
December 12, 201312 yr Maybe he could ask the Swedish chef chief if he has any planes for Thailand's aircraft carrier so it would look less like a giant diving platform if and when it's at sea.
December 12, 201312 yr Rice for Gripen jets? " The State Secretary also visited Wing 7 in Surat Thani, the airbase that hosts the Thai Gripen aircraft and the Swedish Support Group." would those be the ones bought with chickens? Actually how many are airworthy today?
December 12, 201312 yr Maybe he could ask the Swedish chef chief if he has any planes for Thailand's aircraft carrier so it would look less like a giant diving platform if and when it's at sea. Actually it is the world's largest and most expensive royal yacht...
December 12, 201312 yr Rice for Gripen jets? " The State Secretary also visited Wing 7 in Surat Thani, the airbase that hosts the Thai Gripen aircraft and the Swedish Support Group." would those be the ones bought with chickens? Actually how many are airworthy today? A good question. It's a balance of reliability against high tech systems. The USSR chose quantity and simplicity, and the US chose high tech. The best choice probably depends on the nature of the conflict. Super high tech planes are "down for maintenance" a lot of the time. "Fly by wire" always sounded creepy to me! Did they mean "bailing wire" ?
December 12, 201312 yr Rice for Gripen jets? " The State Secretary also visited Wing 7 in Surat Thani, the airbase that hosts the Thai Gripen aircraft and the Swedish Support Group." would those be the ones bought with chickens? Actually how many are airworthy today? No, the chickens for the jet deal backfired after Thaksins televised Chicken cooking show during the peak of the Chicken Flue epidemic. Think most of the Gripen's are still flying, but the 9 Hawker Harrier vertical takeoff planes that came with the Aircraft Carrier from Spain are all grounded.
December 12, 201312 yr The Royal Thai Air Force ordered six Gripens (two single-seat C-models and four two-seat D-models) in February 2008 to replace some F-5s, with deliveries beginning in 2011. Six more Gripen Cs were ordered in November 2010 with deliveries from 2013. The Gripens are to be based at Surat Thani Airbase. The first of the six aircraft were delivered on 22 February 2011. The next three were delivered on 2 April 2013, while the remaining three were delivered in September 2013. It is believed that Thailand may eventually order as many as 40 Gripens. (Wikipedia) Gripen = The griffin, griffon, or gryphon is a legendary creature with the body, tail, and back legs of a lion; the head and wings of an eagle; and an eagle's talons as its front feet. Because the lion was traditionally considered the king of the beasts and the eagle the king of birds, the griffin was thought to be an especially powerful and majestic creature. The griffin was also thought of as king of all creatures. Griffins are known for guarding treasure and priceless possessions. (Wikipedia)
December 12, 201312 yr The Royal Thai Air Force ordered six Gripens (two single-seat C-models and four two-seat D-models) in February 2008 to replace some F-5s, with deliveries beginning in 2011. Six more Gripen Cs were ordered in November 2010 with deliveries from 2013. The Gripens are to be based at Surat Thani Airbase. The first of the six aircraft were delivered on 22 February 2011. The next three were delivered on 2 April 2013, while the remaining three were delivered in September 2013. It is believed that Thailand may eventually order as many as 40 Gripens. (Wikipedia) 300px-JAS_Gripen.jpg Gripen = The griffin, griffon, or gryphon is a legendary creature with the body, tail, and back legs of a lion; the head and wings of an eagle; and an eagle's talons as its front feet. Because the lion was traditionally considered the king of the beasts and the eagle the king of birds, the griffin was thought to be an especially powerful and majestic creature. The griffin was also thought of as king of all creatures. Griffins are known for guarding treasure and priceless possessions. (Wikipedia) 9155.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin_(surname) Griffin was the 75th most common surname on the island of Ireland in 1891.[2] In Wales, Griffin has been established as the 65th most frequent Welsh surname.[3] It was estimated in 2000 that Griffin is the 114th most common surname in the U.S., with a population in the order of two hundred thousand.[4] The surname "Griffin" has two primary Gaelic sources in Ireland, which pertain to the towns of Ballygriffey in Co. Clare, and Ballygriffin in Co. Kerry. The spelling "Ó Gríobhtha" is associated with the Co. Clare family, whose surname was also anglicised as "O'Griffey" or "Griffey". "Ó Gríofa" translates to English as "descendant of the Griffin-like". The "Mac Grífín" spelling belongs to the Kerry family. In Ireland, the name can also be associated with the Welsh surname "Griffith", but to a much lesser degree.[5] The surname Griffin is of patronymic origin. Griffin in Sweden[edit]In Sweden, the griffin Coat-of-Arms gave one actually used surname, Grip, and belonged to three somewhat distinct medieval noble families, to each of which such a surname is retrospectively dubbed: the family of so-called griphuvud who are known to have been nearly-hereditary justiciars of Västergötland (no surname was contemporaneously used of them and they went extinct in 14th century, but later historiography has dubbed "griphuvud", head of griffin, as sort of name to them); and the two families of Grip av Vinäs, one descended from last female of the other, "Griffin of Vinaes", who are attested to have been related in some (not specifically) way at least with the first (Griphuvud) family (no surname was used of the Grip av Vinäs in the Middle Ages, but this family and its Arms continued until the 17th century, admittedly through one female heiress but the Arms were retained by her issue; and at least one generation before their male-line end this, to baronial rank elevated family certainly was called with the surname Grip, "Griffin".) All these may have represented different branches of a clan descended from legendary Geatish local chieftains. This historical noble name (or word) "Grip" has then, in later centuries, been used as surname of some other Swedish families. The family of Aspenäs whose Arms is called "lejonörn" (lion-eagle) and who may have descended from early justiciars of Västergötland (no surname was contemporaneously used of this family which went extinct in the 15th century) had the escutcheon, lion-eagle, squarely opposite of griffin: Lion-eagle is formed of eagle's hindparts and lion's head.
December 12, 201312 yr Rice for Gripen jets? " The State Secretary also visited Wing 7 in Surat Thani, the airbase that hosts the Thai Gripen aircraft and the Swedish Support Group." would those be the ones bought with chickens? Actually how many are airworthy today? A good question. It's a balance of reliability against high tech systems. The USSR chose quantity and simplicity, and the US chose high tech. The best choice probably depends on the nature of the conflict. Super high tech planes are "down for maintenance" a lot of the time. "Fly by wire" always sounded creepy to me! Did they mean "bailing wire" ? Ehh... What does Russia got to do with this? And the US too for that matter? These are Swedish planes... And the US have actually bought a lot of Swedish war/fight technologies since it in a number of areas are world-leading.
December 12, 201312 yr I think you're all wrong. Sweden wants it's aerospace companies to buy parts "made in Thailand " for its ships, fighters, artillery etc. European bits are just too expensive.
December 12, 201312 yr Are so Thailand is going into competition with Germany in the machine and machine tools business. Great!
December 12, 201312 yr I think you're all wrong. Sweden wants it's aerospace companies to buy parts "made in Thailand " for its ships, fighters, artillery etc. European bits are just too expensive. In the long run parts Made in Sweden or Made in Germany will be cheaper compared to parts Made in Thailand or Made in China. German or Swedish engineers can not buy a certificate and they also are proud of what they produce.
December 12, 201312 yr Rice for Gripen jets? " The State Secretary also visited Wing 7 in Surat Thani, the airbase that hosts the Thai Gripen aircraft and the Swedish Support Group." would those be the ones bought with chickens? Actually how many are airworthy today? At least 4... I saw them training over Lang Suan 2 monthes ago....doing some Hua-Hin - Surat circle i guess with the time I calcultate.... but they were following the coast... is it normal ?
December 12, 201312 yr Aha. We have some planes to sell. More probably, any chance of some money on account for the ones we already sell you...
December 12, 201312 yr I think you're all wrong. Sweden wants it's aerospace companies to buy parts "made in Thailand " for its ships, fighters, artillery etc. European bits are just too expensive. In the long run parts Made in Sweden or Made in Germany will be cheaper compared to parts Made in Thailand or Made in China. German or Swedish engineers can not buy a certificate and they also are proud of what they produce. Surely that's why parts made in Sweden/Germany will always be more expensive?
December 12, 201312 yr I think you're all wrong. Sweden wants it's aerospace companies to buy parts "made in Thailand " for its ships, fighters, artillery etc. European bits are just too expensive. In the long run parts Made in Sweden or Made in Germany will be cheaper compared to parts Made in Thailand or Made in China. German or Swedish engineers can not buy a certificate and they also are proud of what they produce. Surely that's why parts made in Sweden/Germany will always be more expensive? Buy cheap - buy twice.
December 12, 201312 yr My connections and your connections can exchange ideas. We call it "tea money" here in Thailand.
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