sustento Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 It could be a lot worse, it could be a UK school that is too scared to make a big fuss out of Christmas in-case it offends the non-Christian minority! It would be lovely if you could post some credible links to the UK schools that are too scared to make a big fuss out of Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 It could be a lot worse, it could be a UK school that is too scared to make a big fuss out of Christmas in-case it offends the non-Christian minority! It would be lovely if you could post some credible links to the UK schools that are too scared to make a big fuss out of Xmas. Not hard.. https://www.google.co.th/search?q=uk+school+bans+christmas&oq=uk+school+bans+christmas&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64l2.7022j0j8&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 google search comes up with thousands! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 It could be a lot worse, it could be a UK school that is too scared to make a big fuss out of Christmas in-case it offends the non-Christian minority! It would be lovely if you could post some credible links to the UK schools that are too scared to make a big fuss out of Xmas. Not hard.. https://www.google.co.th/search?q=uk+school+bans+christmas&oq=uk+school+bans+christmas&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64l2.7022j0j8&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 google search comes up with thousands! It would probably be a good idea to read some of those links before posting them as credible links. On the first page: The first five links report a primary school in Kent where the headmistress has banned the pupils from talking about Xmas until December. She believes that if they start talking about it too early it loses its magic. The sixth link reports a primary school in Rochdale where the school has asked the children to bring Xmas cards addressed to the whole class rather than individual cards because it causes loads of grief if some kids don't get one and get upset about it. The seventh link reports a hoax which claims just what you say about schools banning Xmas and which turns out to be totally false. The eight link is talking about Red Cross charity shops not schools. The ninth link reports a school in Bingley where parents are asked not to take any children, apart from those taking part, to the Xmas show as they'd be too noisy and spoil the show. The tenth link is about a school in Texas which I believe is in the USA. There is not a single mention in any of those links (apart from the seventh which was a hoax anyway) about 'non-Christian minorities' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 The War On Christmas comes to Thailand. The war is over. Christmas came to Thailand, it saw, and it conquered. Next ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choonpon Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Merry Xmas everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 up yours ,merry crimbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 It could be a lot worse, it could be a UK school that is too scared to make a big fuss out of Christmas in-case it offends the non-Christian minority! It would be lovely if you could post some credible links to the UK schools that are too scared to make a big fuss out of Xmas. Not hard.. https://www.google.co.th/search?q=uk+school+bans+christmas&oq=uk+school+bans+christmas&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64l2.7022j0j8&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 google search comes up with thousands! It would probably be a good idea to read some of those links before posting them as credible links. On the first page: The first five links report a primary school in Kent where the headmistress has banned the pupils from talking about Xmas until December. She believes that if they start talking about it too early it loses its magic. The sixth link reports a primary school in Rochdale where the school has asked the children to bring Xmas cards addressed to the whole class rather than individual cards because it causes loads of grief if some kids don't get one and get upset about it. The seventh link reports a hoax which claims just what you say about schools banning Xmas and which turns out to be totally false. The eight link is talking about Red Cross charity shops not schools. The ninth link reports a school in Bingley where parents are asked not to take any children, apart from those taking part, to the Xmas show as they'd be too noisy and spoil the show. The tenth link is about a school in Texas which I believe is in the USA. There is not a single mention in any of those links (apart from the seventh which was a hoax anyway) about 'non-Christian minorities' http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-chris-allen/muslim-christmas-ban_b_4464410.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Well, at my provincial school, where 50% are muslim, I was told to not do anything. So, yesterday, on the 24th. (school closed today for scouts crap)I handed out peppermint candy and I wore a Santa's cap. ʞɔnɟ them!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Well, at my provincial school, where 50% are muslim, I was told to not do anything. So, yesterday, on the 24th. (school closed today for scouts crap)I handed out peppermint candy and I wore a Santa's cap. ʞɔnɟ them!!! Yes bwana! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 My introduction to Asia was in the late 60s when I went to Singapore and the official Communist Chinese ran Mall there has speakers blaring out Christmas Carols everywhere and lots of Chrissie things for sale. Trade trumps politics and religeon every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILT Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Op reminds me of the classic film "Christmas Carol" I am having a hard time seeing this a forced issue. Take away the religion aspect and Christmas becomes a act of giving and spreading joy. Ooooh How terrible! Force the children in the act of giving. Come on OP have a swill! Merry Christmas to you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpharma Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 And beside of that, I have never met 1 Thai who really knows what X-mas means... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA_FARANG Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) I've seen this happen before .... when a poor family simply did not have the money to buy a "present" for their child to take to school to give to another student. They solved the problem by taking the student on a family trip .... which cost them less than the organized gift giving the teacher intended the whole class to join in. Teachers need to be very careful to make such an activity to be a voluntary thing ... and not an organized class activity. Teachers ..... that's why you should have taken that "cultural values" training. Edited December 25, 2013 by IMA_FARANG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappie1207 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Coming from the UK, which NOW probably has one of the most diverse cultures in the world, our children are taught different cultures and how they are celebrated. I think this is good from an education point as it opens the young mind to more than just one mindset. Letting a child experience another cultures way, for a few moments, can only stimulate and empower. As long as respect is always in the mind of the one's overseeing this then a good and much needed idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyumiii Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Nothing wrong with the tradition of exchanging gifts. Thais love gifts and parties. As long as they are not pushing Christian propaganda on the children, Jai yen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samaaw Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 New Christmas HUB - Thailand !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saroq Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Sometimes it's the school administration that asks the teachers (particularly foreign teachers) to prepare activities for different festivals. That could be the case here. Santa's appeal to young kids is universal and is about as easy to ignore as it is to drive past a McDonald's without little pleading voices asking you to stop. That said the more we can do to preserve the Buddhist faith and traditions in Thailand the happier I'll be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post orosee Posted December 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2013 Better Santa than Hitler. I think we can all agree on that. Merry Christmas from an atheist. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I agree, Thai children should be kept from all international influences. Otherwise the entire country will be at risk of knowing something new. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonspot Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Merry CHRISTmas all you UK atheists. You may have given up on God but He hasn't given up on you. Mwah! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgma Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I think the world has gone crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtsabai Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 xmas is ok, good time for parties, except now the cops have roadblocks everywhere and want to stick dirty Breathalyzers in your face whether you have had a drink, no drink or too many drinks. I liked xmas when my kids were small, out of the mountains and down to the in-laws, early mornings rise and shine at 0 dark thirty (often with a hangover from the party the night before), son, daughter, nieces, nephews, wrapping paper everywhere, big smiles, laughter, and the Colonel's famous 'bloody Mary'. Nothing religious about it, the in-laws of Jewish decent, me of southern baptist and none of us ever entered the door of a religious facility or wanted to after we reached the age where the brain actually functioned. A different aspect was when I was still a "two week millionaire" down in Pattaya. As best I remember the most 'fun' I ever had at xmas, especially after kids grown etc. Loved it. We don't do xmas here, although I did get xmas cards this am from the wife and kids. Ah now New Year is a different story. I like xmas here much more than I did in the states, even with the creeping commercialization. I don't see the nutty religion aspect of it here like it is back in the states. I just wish they would ban that damned Jingle Bells! Happy Holidays to all except the right wing troglodyte fringe crowd, to you-BAH HUMBUG! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiean Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I have been celebrating christmas for more than 20 years since I was a little girl coz my dad's company has been doing business with american as partnership group...well, we celebrate it for fun and interaction with other people.....ppl get together , have high tea party and Xmas dinner sharing ideas, feeling and happiness .....after I got married with my husband who is a rock n roll Roman Catholic , we do it every year for fun instead of religious purpose ...and now my daughter is converted to catholic , I m still a not strong Buddhist ....we still do Xmas for fun and they never go to church,......celebrating foreign festive isnt forcing culture.......Thais ' tradition still exist and nobody can stop tradition....even though I v been raised in a western way and live my rest of life in this way, part of me is still Chinese .....don't be paranoid and hold no xenophobia, let 's just have some fun and stay cool... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recycler Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Being non-religious I don't have a problem when kids have a party at school buying presents for each other. Our son of 6 though was not very happy with the set of brown hand towels that he got for a present. It probably needs some explaining to Thai parents that kids fancy other things.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 OMG, It's a great Holiday for the Kids. Every child should know about the Magic of Santa, and gifts for good little boys and girls. Don't be such a Spoil Sport, I dont believe the Teachers are Forcing anything, it's a way of spreading a little more Joy and Peace to the Kids....."with the Program" Scrooge !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 OP - hey don't you stop in your local shopping mall?? - check out the xmas songs banging out the speakers, santas and trees everywhere Now if you really have an issue with it, why not talk to them. That's right, you really are not thinking this through loooong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrysum Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I wonder what the original poster had in mind, when they posted it....... Never been a problem, in many Asian countries I have been in..... Wow, I guess it is the ideal of watching the children enjoy such a day..... No one is forcing it on anyone, When you give... Let them enjoy it.... Oh and am I forcing my beliefs when I make them pancakes for breakfast?????? Get over it....... I have never had a complaint in my years, of doing such things...... Guess I just enjoy the smiles on their faces, you were never young? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 If you want to teach what it's about then great, but to impose a financial burden on others especially without warning is wrong. How many are going to lose face when a gift can't be bought or when one's gift is far superior to another? If you want to teach about the winter equinox, what stars represent the 3 wise men, what the sun being born again means and all those in mythology that share the very same story, then great, I think they should know. Let them know that santa is a representation of the priests that used to climb down the smoke holes in people's yurts to leave mushrooms in stockings to dry near the fire. Let them know where it really came from, I don't have a problem with that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 If you want to teach what it's about then great, but to impose a financial burden on others especially without warning is wrong. How many are going to lose face when a gift can't be bought or when one's gift is far superior to another? If you want to teach about the winter equinox, what stars represent the 3 wise men, what the sun being born again means and all those in mythology that share the very same story, then great, I think they should know. Let them know that santa is a representation of the priests that used to climb down the smoke holes in people's yurts to leave mushrooms in stockings to dry near the fire. Let them know where it really came from, I don't have a problem with that at all. I never knew that. My youngest has just realized that Santa is me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Oh crimminy!!! Nobody was forcing anything, just having some fun. Children probably had a great time. No religious overtones...as Christmas started as a pagan holiday, devoid of religion....(The Santa/gift giving part). Ancient traditions should be tought and, gift giving is just a way to do it. Following taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas... "Certain elements having origins in pre-Christian festivals that were celebrated around the winter solstice by pagan populations who were later converted to. These elements, including the Yule Log from Yule and gift giving from Saturnalia" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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