Scores of people injured in bomb attack during anti-government rally in Trat

[Gweiloman]

Sad to say!

When they stray out of their stronghold of Bangkok, and attempt to recreate in other parts of the country the havoc they created in Bangkok under the protection of the Rich E.E allies, they will be met with resistance,

Cheers

That sums up your morals.

I'm sure even your parents would disown you.

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For the record, even though I lean towards PT government policies, I condemn these sort of violence and hope that the injured will recover quickly and that loved ones will also recover from their extreme emotional distress.

I understand also the outpouring of anger from some TV posters towards what they consider vile and sick posts. However, looking at some of these "vile and sick" posts, I don't read them as justifying the violence but instead, explaining the actions.

No government in the world can control small groups of radicals and extremists. In the case of Thailand, the courts, the army, CC, EC etc etc have rendered the government even more powerless. Whilst this was being done, the anti govt supporters here on TV were cheering and congratulating each other. You have obviously not seen beyond the day to this day, to the reactions of some small groups of anti-protestors.

I will not take a leaf out of jollyman but instead put here a Chinese saying - "if you force a tiger into a corner, the tiger can no longer retreat and have no choice but to attack".

If like some of you think, that the govt is on the back foot (not through the ballot box but through court manipulations), then this is not unexpected. I have said previously that if PT is ousted via a judicial coup, then the current protests are child's play compared to what will inevitably happen.

p/s: sorry if above not too clear, have a massage appointment in 10 mins, so rushing this

Basically what you appear to be saying is that the government is behind these attacks because it has been cornered and politics being a fight for eat or be eaten like in the jungle, these deadly attacks on the opposition are ... well ... normal and to be expected.

Is that really the way a government in a democracy should behave? Kill or get killed?

No, that is not what I am saying at all.

What I am saying is that there are probably some groups of government supporters, whom, upon seeing the government that they support being blocked at every turn (rightly or wrongly), have decided to take the law into their own hands. And yes, it's the law of the jungle as they feel that they have been let down and betrayed by the "Law of the Country".

As to whether it is normal, it's not, because the situation currently in Thailand is not normal. Expected? Sadly, yes.

[DivinGuy]

This one is highly evocative, for anyone who knows anything about Thai history.

Yeah - the first thing I noticed about the series was that it's Manee. Then I saw this page. When I first saw the picture it's based on, I thought it was from Cambodia. It wasn't until many years later I learned it was from Thailand.

[Soi Sauce]

Ummm first off Trat ISNT a northern province last time i was there, its East and if anything south east what attack is he talking about ? second how can he know every persons political bent in a whole province or even area ?

sloppy standard of reporting at best.

He knows everyone up north supports the reds because they are terrorised into doing so.

Dissent, freedom of speech and protest, and having a mind of your own are not tolerated in red democracy.

[bkkjames]

(Edit: this is for mr ais shareholder)

I am sure you spent too much time digging this up, but you posted in wrong topic by accident?

This is about terrorist attack in trat with young children murdered.

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Edited February 23, 2014 by bkkjames

[mrtoad]

(Edit: this is for mr ais shareholder)

I am sure you spent too much time digging this up, but you posted in wrong topic by accident?

This is about terrorist attack in trat with young children murdered.

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Agreed, but the newer arrived Red Shirt apologists are again out in force trying to obscure the facts. Some even advocating it.

It's another very sad incident that has cost innocent people their lives.

[bkkjames]

Toad, i meant for crobe, not you

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[metisdead]

A post in violation of fair use policy has been removed. It is generally accepted, but not written into law, that quoting the first two or three sentences of an article and giving a link to the source is considered “fair use” and not a violation of copyright.

Off topic posts and replies have been removed as well.

[poohy]

Firstly Saddened a disturbed to hear of violence and deaths

IMHO both sides are corrupt and inept!

However more importantly and sad news for Thailand................ No condemnation of violence from PM or government....

[Donnie Brasco]

From THAI POST very bad English Translation Im afraid

"An explosion at the big stage DEA. Trad. Criminal use of the pickup truck, shooting and throwing grenades at me over the last 30 people reportedly killed three people.

Journalists reported that at approximately 21:30 pm on February 22, 2557 at Moo 1, Tambon Saen Tung Ying Charoen Muang Trat, Trat while the Reed DEA. Were having a discussion the group General Thailand with patriotic heart. Sergeant Kam Pong substances are speaking against the government. The Trad with more than 500 people sitting on the side of the stage by addressing a Noodle Shop. Four noodles, dumplings Fried and there were about 20 people, including clients sit with Guard DEA. Sit and eat with. The Trad and some sitting at the wood shop. Listening with attention

Between the two cars, pickups. Consists of the Toyota Hilux pickup bronze and white. Used Mitsubishi Slow to run past and who was in the car Mitsubishi. Threw a grenade into the crowd. Blast cabinet agreed noodlesToyota cars and trucks again. Using firearms indiscriminately firing. The seats were eating noodles Before the criminals are shooting indiscriminately from the front of the stage. Initially, there were more than 30 people injured and killed three people injured were sent to hospital Bangkok Hospital Trat and Bangkok Hospital Trat.

For this event Maj. Gen. Thi s Commissar Rush Tuttle complete the Poa Trad arrived at the scene. After receiving the report from the Col. Chiravuthi Tanthaka Sri Police ¼ kg. Khaosaming that the use of firearms tip the scale consisted of 11 mm guns and weapons, including grenades, totally expected as the two children.

Thanks Jollyman

You know, sometimes I actually prefer a transliterated version.

This is actually an attempt to report the facts of the event. There was True grit in that piece, was there not ?

It's not purely Googen/translate, is it. It seems to have actually been parsed into short sentences. The "oddities" are essentially OUR oddities.

I am keenly interested in this "DEA Reed" information flash and those noodle stand details. And the Rush Tuttle bit piques my interest.

(Sorry, old habits DO die hard.)

I'd rather parse THIS kind of thing than pick through some Bangkok media organ (be it print or televised) for any semblance of objectivity.

Sorry for the off-topic-ness.

"Sometimes, 'fuggedabowdit' just means fuggedabowdit."

[northernjohn]

Trat?!?!

I thought all the anti-government protesters were rich elite in Bangkok or radical Deep Southerners according to several TV experts.

Sad to say!

When they stray out of their stronghold of Bangkok, and attempt to recreate in other parts of the country the havoc they created in Bangkok under the protection of the Rich E.E allies, they will be met with resistance,

Cheers

 

Cheers

Well that is the kind of response we can expect from scum.

Just further proof that life is meaningless to the red shirt thugs and their backers.

[almafudd]

This is when police is not allowed to maintain law and order and enforcing the rule of law. It looks like more coming. The judges of courts are responsible.

YOU ARE SICK...

The perpetrators are responsible.

The police are ALLOWED to enforce the law - they just have to do it LAWFULLY!

[Gweiloman]

For the record, even though I lean towards PT government policies, I condemn these sort of violence and hope that the injured will recover quickly and that loved ones will also recover from their extreme emotional distress.

I understand also the outpouring of anger from some TV posters towards what they consider vile and sick posts. However, looking at some of these "vile and sick" posts, I don't read them as justifying the violence but instead, explaining the actions.

No government in the world can control small groups of radicals and extremists. In the case of Thailand, the courts, the army, CC, EC etc etc have rendered the government even more powerless. Whilst this was being done, the anti govt supporters here on TV were cheering and congratulating each other. You have obviously not seen beyond the day to this day, to the reactions of some small groups of anti-protestors.

I will not take a leaf out of jollyman but instead put here a Chinese saying - "if you force a tiger into a corner, the tiger can no longer retreat and have no choice but to attack".

If like some of you think, that the govt is on the back foot (not through the ballot box but through court manipulations), then this is not unexpected. I have said previously that if PT is ousted via a judicial coup, then the current protests are child's play compared to what will inevitably happen.

p/s: sorry if above not too clear, have a massage appointment in 10 mins, so rushing this

I'm sorry to piss on your parade, but what you are saying is ludicrous. When PTP is elected, those that don't support them are expected to accept the will of the majority gracefully. But when PTP proves to be both inept and corrupt and the will of the majority turns against them, their supporters turn into cornered tigers, and killing of those with other views is to be expected, if not justified?

Is this how "red democracy" works, our way or die? There was no election in Trat last night, nobody blocking booths or disrupting commerce, just a group of people expressing their disgust at this charade of a government. So what are your "cornered tigers" using to justify simple bloody murder?

I am amazed that you are still unable to eliminate bias from your thinking.

and the will of the majority turns against them

How can you say this with utter full knowledge? Yes, there are a lot of people that have turned against them. But how can you say for sure that it is the majority?

When PTP was elected during the last elections, those that didn't support them accepted the results of the elections. If there had been a smooth election this time round, how do you know that PTP supporters would not have accepted the outcome (assuming that PTP lost the election?).

Having said that, there is no justification for last night's violence and I condemn it as much as any anti Govt poster. But since "all's fair in love and war", last night's violence was not unexpected.

[Lite Beer]

Trat governor declares attack site terrorism disaster zone
The Nation

Trat Governor Benjawan Anplueng Sunday declared Khao Saming district a disaster zone affected by terrorism so that her provincial administration can speed up compensations to the victims.

She said the injured victims will each receive Bt2,500 in compensation and the family of the slain victim will receive Bt25,000 worth of compensation.

Speaking at a press conference, the governor said the attack Saturday night at the rally site of the People's Democratic Reform Committee killed a five-year-old-girl and injured 34 other persons.

The injured victims are 17 men, 14 women and three children.

The governor said the slain victim was shot at her head and the bullet pierced through her neck. She was a daughter of Supaporn Pinja. The girl was playing at the spot while the mother was washing dishes at a noodle stall.

After the press conference, the governor visited the injured at the Trat Hospitasl.

Trat police chief Pol Maj Gen Thisathat Buranarat said police are still trying to find more information about the attackers.

-- The Nation 2014-02-23

[almafudd]

Trat?!?!

I thought all the anti-government protesters were rich elite in Bangkok or radical Deep Southerners according to several TV experts.

Sad to say!

When they stray out of their stronghold of Bangkok, and attempt to recreate in other parts of the country the havoc they created in Bangkok under the protection of the Rich E.E allies, they will be met with resistance,

Cheers

Absolute disgusting cr_p you write. People have lose theirs lives, people have been seriously injured, peoples lives have been ruined.

And you write this rubbish.

You should be banned from TV and your IP address blocked.

Please stop posting on this forum - I'm sure you don't feel welcome and that is because you really aren't.

Again this is human misery and you insinuate that they 'deserved it' SICK!!!

[JRSoul]

I'm sorry to piss on your parade, but what you are saying is ludicrous. When PTP is elected, those that don't support them are expected to accept the will of the majority gracefully. But when PTP proves to be both inept and corrupt and the will of the majority turns against them, their supporters turn into cornered tigers, and killing of those with other views is to be expected, if not justified?

Is this how "red democracy" works, our way or die? There was no election in Trat last night, nobody blocking booths or disrupting commerce, just a group of people expressing their disgust at this charade of a government. So what are your "cornered tigers" using to justify simple bloody murder?

I am amazed that you are still unable to eliminate bias from your thinking.

and the will of the majority turns against them

How can you say this with utter full knowledge? Yes, there are a lot of people that have turned against them. But how can you say for sure that it is the majority?

When PTP was elected during the last elections, those that didn't support them accepted the results of the elections. If there had been a smooth election this time round, how do you know that PTP supporters would not have accepted the outcome (assuming that PTP lost the election?).

Having said that, there is no justification for last night's violence and I condemn it as much as any anti Govt poster. But since "all's fair in love and war", last night's violence was not unexpected.

Why should I eliminate bias? I hate criminals and am happy to express that when I see criminals looting this country.

The voting record at the faux election was clear, less than half bothered to vote, and a large portion declined to support PTP. And why would they support those that believe murder is an acceptable political tool. I am not "amazed at your "all's fair in love and war", I am bloody disgusted.

[northernjohn]

For the record, even though I lean towards PT government policies, I condemn these sort of violence and hope that the injured will recover quickly and that loved ones will also recover from their extreme emotional distress.

I understand also the outpouring of anger from some TV posters towards what they consider vile and sick posts. However, looking at some of these "vile and sick" posts, I don't read them as justifying the violence but instead, explaining the actions.

No government in the world can control small groups of radicals and extremists. In the case of Thailand, the courts, the army, CC, EC etc etc have rendered the government even more powerless. Whilst this was being done, the anti govt supporters here on TV were cheering and congratulating each other. You have obviously not seen beyond the day to this day, to the reactions of some small groups of anti-protestors.

I will not take a leaf out of jollyman but instead put here a Chinese saying - "if you force a tiger into a corner, the tiger can no longer retreat and have no choice but to attack".

If like some of you think, that the govt is on the back foot (not through the ballot box but through court manipulations), then this is not unexpected. I have said previously that if PT is ousted via a judicial coup, then the current protests are child's play compared to what will inevitably happen.

p/s: sorry if above not too clear, have a massage appointment in 10 mins, so rushing this

I'm sorry to piss on your parade, but what you are saying is ludicrous. When PTP is elected, those that don't support them are expected to accept the will of the majority gracefully. But when PTP proves to be both inept and corrupt and the will of the majority turns against them, their supporters turn into cornered tigers, and killing of those with other views is to be expected, if not justified?

Is this how "red democracy" works, our way or die? There was no election in Trat last night, nobody blocking booths or disrupting commerce, just a group of people expressing their disgust at this charade of a government. So what are your "cornered tigers" using to justify simple bloody murder?

I am amazed that you are still unable to eliminate bias from your thinking.

and the will of the majority turns against them

How can you say this with utter full knowledge? Yes, there are a lot of people that have turned against them. But how can you say for sure that it is the majority?

When PTP was elected during the last elections, those that didn't support them accepted the results of the elections. If there had been a smooth election this time round, how do you know that PTP supporters would not have accepted the outcome (assuming that PTP lost the election?).

Having said that, there is no justification for last night's violence and I condemn it as much as any anti Govt poster. But since "all's fair in love and war", last night's violence was not unexpected.

Piece of cake to say that the majority has turned against them. Stop and drop your bias.

52% didn't want them in the first place. Now it is even more.

You red shirt supporters will never be able to justify your actions. always some one else's fault.

[473geo]

This attack is of course despicable, but like all things there is cause and effect and the attack needs to be put into context.

Cause Taksin, effect wounded and death.. just like before.

I hope that is clear enough for you.

It is so painful having to read the junk you post among other more insightful posters.

In your opinion!

Well it does take two sides who cannot reslove differences to cause this type of chaos, Robblock appears to be of the opinion the side that has stepped down from government, to facilitate elections, providing yet another opportunity for the Thai electorate to make a choice, prior to any violence occuring, is somehow to carry all the blame for the continuing protests and subsequent inexcusable violent actions.

I too believe his stance requires a little more balanced intelligent thought

[smedly]

This forum reflects the attitudes and thought processes in "Thailand" pretty well and goes to show that there is absolutely NO middle ground or compromise between pro and anti Govt supporters and this really does not bode well for the future of Thailand. He said, she said, they did, it was done before, 2010, all used to justify the violence that we see happening now from both sides.

Whilst I lean more towards the anti side of things, I don't agree with some of the actions taken or the words spoken by the "leaders" of the anti side of things. I also however don't agree with 99% of what is said from the pro side of things and I base that on past experiences that have proven countless times how untrustworthy they can be. Whilst I am no big fan of Suthep per se, I do see the need for major changes in ALL laws and systems, and that is just not going to happen whilst the PTP/Shinawatras have anything to do with things unless it benefits them directly.

Either way, violence is NOT the answer to any of this and it will never allow the changes that are really needed here. A fundamental shift in attitudes on ALL sides needs to happen before progress can be made, otherwise we are stuck in an endless cycle of protests, violence, lawsuits and accusations, with each side egging the other on to escalate things further.

At this point in time, I believe the best way forward would be for the monarchy to get involved more overtly/directly, to "tell" people to behave themselves, and then to oversee some fundamental, independent, public-led, referendum focused, grass root reforms before scheduling ANY more elections.

But what do I know, I'm just a guest.

I can understand that there is no compromise because on one side they stand to lose an awful lot - here is what I believe on the red side starting at the top

PTP MP's

- power

- a lot of money

- risk of conviction and jail if they stand down

- lose face

Red leaders - much the same as above but as you go down through the ranks of the reds they also run local mafia's and have concessions on stuff like public parks - car parks etc, as you get right down to the basic supporters (the mass) these people are those that benefit from unsustainable election promises and believe the constant propaganda that streams from the TV and radio stations (I'd call them innocent and gullible) and are victims of intimidation and duped with small handouts although I believe the support from the masses has changed recently due to social media

The other side have simply had enough of all the above

[than]

Only UDD coward militia have the courage to kill children and innocents people..................

[Maseratimartin]

This was ordered from Dubai.

Stupid post that does nothing to ease the situation.

Not so stupid...just short and the truth!

[rebelplatoon]

Seems like some idiots here think its ok when this happens. The reason the pro democracy group does not show itself too much IS the violence and disruption by red shirts. People are afraid.

[than]

Eight-year-old girl succumbed to injuries

TRAT: -- An eight-year-old girl succumbed to injuries inflicted in an attack against the rally of the People's Democratic Reform Committee in Trat Saturday night that also saw 34 others injured, a doctor said.

Doctor Anurak Amornphetsathaporn, director of the Emergency Public Health Office of the Public Health Ministry, said the girl has died and 29 injured victims are still in hospitals. Five of them were severely wounded, he said.

-- The Nation 2014-02-23

Rest in peace ................

A angel leave earth

Condolence to her parents.

[Bocking]

Children murdered, innocent men, women & children seriously injured. Then comes eleven pages of wildly differing opinions, blame & counter-blame, condemnation & justification. This is something that I’d normally expect to see in the aftermath of an act of terrorism perpetrated by religious fundamentalists. The fact that it isn’t says an awful lot about the depth of the problems that Thailand now faces.

[zaphodbeeblebrox]

Trat governor declares attack site terrorism disaster zone

The Nation

Trat Governor Benjawan Anplueng Sunday declared Khao Saming district a disaster zone affected by terrorism so that her provincial administration can speed up compensations to the victims.

She said the injured victims will each receive Bt2,500 in compensation and the family of the slain victim will receive Bt25,000 worth of compensation.

Speaking at a press conference, the governor said the attack Saturday night at the rally site of the People's Democratic Reform Committee killed a five-year-old-girl and injured 34 other persons.

The injured victims are 17 men, 14 women and three children.

The governor said the slain victim was shot at her head and the bullet pierced through her neck. She was a daughter of Supaporn Pinja. The girl was playing at the spot while the mother was washing dishes at a noodle stall.

After the press conference, the governor visited the injured at the Trat Hospitasl.

Trat police chief Pol Maj Gen Thisathat Buranarat said police are still trying to find more information about the attackers.

-- The Nation 2014-02-23

Given that the Trat Governor has declared this incident a major act of terrorism, and the ongoing and continual bombings of courthouses, under the 1997 Constitution, Yingluck now has grounds to implement an SOE. Unfortunately, it's not the SOE PTP wants. The current conditions would justify the implementation of an SOE decree designed to protect peaceful rallies and the courthouses from attacks. It would give the police the right to stop and frisk people and to search vehicles nearing the rally sites and courthouses. That's how an SOE works under the Constitution. It isn't designed to abridge the constitutional right of protest, but to protect the citizens from acts of terrorism and war. PTP needs a major lesson in civics.

[newcomer71]

"You Red thug" , "You yellow fascist"...

You both fanatics groups together are PATHETIC! With your brains obfuscated by your political views you NEVER bring something constructive to any discussion and ALWAYS end up making threads a shi_tty mess.

Don't you all feel ashamed to write and think like 5 years old boys? Without any responsibility to AT LEAST put down tones?

No, when you read something contrary to your QUASI-RELIGION, the best you can do is: insult the poster, and act like you are the most informed intelligent and knowledgeable person in this country, knowing Thais and Thai affairs more than any expert.

This seems not a forum anymore, but a bunch of boys fighting over toys.

GROW UP!

Edited February 23, 2014 by newcomer71

[JRSoul]

Well it does take two sides who cannot reslove differences to cause this type of chaos, Robblock appears to be of the opinion the side that has stepped down from government, to facilitate elections, providing yet another opportunity for the Thai electorate to make a choice, prior to any violence occuring, is somehow to carry all the blame for the continuing protests and subsequent inexcusable violent actions.

I too believe his stance requires a little more balanced intelligent thought

If the subsequent violence is inexcusable, why shouldn't those whose supporters carry it out, and who refuse to speak out against such violence, carry the guilt for it? Which PTP/UDD/red leader has said "Violence is inexcusable"?

Instead we hear half-arsed justifications and threats of more to come, from the Judas-goat leaders and their sheep supporters, and cartoons indicating violence is the ONLY answer.

[TechnikaIII]

It's amazing that this happened at 9:30 last night and that there is still so little news on it.

... because, who do you think controls the mainstream media?!

Answer: Thaksin Shinawatra's cronies.

[than]

Trat governor declares attack site terrorism disaster zone

The Nation

Trat Governor Benjawan Anplueng Sunday declared Khao Saming district a disaster zone affected by terrorism so that her provincial administration can speed up compensations to the victims.

She said the injured victims will each receive Bt2,500 in compensation and the family of the slain victim will receive Bt25,000 worth of compensation.

Speaking at a press conference, the governor said the attack Saturday night at the rally site of the People's Democratic Reform Committee killed a five-year-old-girl and injured 34 other persons.

The injured victims are 17 men, 14 women and three children.

The governor said the slain victim was shot at her head and the bullet pierced through her neck. She was a daughter of Supaporn Pinja. The girl was playing at the spot while the mother was washing dishes at a noodle stall.

After the press conference, the governor visited the injured at the Trat Hospitasl.

Trat police chief Pol Maj Gen Thisathat Buranarat said police are still trying to find more information about the attackers.

-- The Nation 2014-02-23

Given that the Trat Governor has declared this incident a major act of terrorism, and the ongoing and continual bombings of courthouses, under the 1997 Constitution, Yingluck now has grounds to implement an SOE. Unfortunately, it's not the SOE PTP wants. The current conditions would justify the implementation of an SOE decree designed to protect peaceful rallies and the courthouses from attacks. It would give the police the right to stop and frisk people and to search vehicles nearing the rally sites and courthouses. That's how an SOE works under the Constitution. It isn't designed to abridge the constitutional right of protest, but to protect the citizens from acts of terrorism and war. PTP needs a major lesson in civics.

I'm not sure that PT have the same Constitution text....

[moonao]

Suthep has basically created the atmosphere for these type of attacks to thrive.

I doubt this scum of the earth cares that some of his people have died, he will probably use their blood as an excuse to further his own agenda and escalate things even more.

The sooner farangs on here realism and understand that Suthep is part of the problem and not the solution, the better.

[diehard60]

Trat governor declares attack site terrorism disaster zone

The Nation

Trat Governor Benjawan Anplueng Sunday declared Khao Saming district a disaster zone affected by terrorism so that her provincial administration can speed up compensations to the victims.

She said the injured victims will each receive Bt2,500 in compensation and the family of the slain victim will receive Bt25,000 worth of compensation.

Speaking at a press conference, the governor said the attack Saturday night at the rally site of the People's Democratic Reform Committee killed a five-year-old-girl and injured 34 other persons.

The injured victims are 17 men, 14 women and three children.

The governor said the slain victim was shot at her head and the bullet pierced through her neck. She was a daughter of Supaporn Pinja. The girl was playing at the spot while the mother was washing dishes at a noodle stall.

After the press conference, the governor visited the injured at the Trat Hospitasl.

Trat police chief Pol Maj Gen Thisathat Buranarat said police are still trying to find more information about the attackers.

-- The Nation 2014-02-23

Given that the Trat Governor has declared this incident a major act of terrorism, and the ongoing and continual bombings of courthouses, under the 1997 Constitution, Yingluck now has grounds to implement an SOE. Unfortunately, it's not the SOE PTP wants. The current conditions would justify the implementation of an SOE decree designed to protect peaceful rallies and the courthouses from attacks. It would give the police the right to stop and frisk people and to search vehicles nearing the rally sites and courthouses. That's how an SOE works under the Constitution. It isn't designed to abridge the constitutional right of protest, but to protect the citizens from acts of terrorism and war. PTP needs a major lesson in civics.

I'm not sure that PT have the same Constitution text....

Its not a 1997 constitution. It is a 2007 constitution.