Disappearance of Malaysian jet appears 'deliberate': PM

[ijwelch]

Headline: "It WAS hijacked: Malaysian official says it's CONCLUSIVE jet carrying 239 was seized by individual or group 'with significant flying experience' as PM admits tracking was 'deliberately' disabled"

Malaysian PM : "Despite media reports that the plane was hijacked, I wish to be very clear: we are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused MH370 to deviate from its original flight path."

Daily Mail sourced material really should come with a warning.

[celso]

Thanks for the daily mail story.

[peecee]

The two possible flight paths cover a vast area to search. Looks like the relatives will need to endure more uncertainty.

How far could it go after the turn? Just thinking about the purpose of diverting the plane. If it went North West could it get to Crimea for example? There's so much political unrest these days there's quite a few possible locations for a politically motivated crime - but all seem to be a long way from Malaysia?

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An aircraft that isn't squawking (the authorities have said the transponder was isolated manually and flew on for several hours) will show up as possible hostile on military radar and would have been intercepted, so they would have had to plot a path that doesn't have any air defense radar, highly improbable. That leaves the aircraft in the Indian or pacific ocean. I don't know if any of the many islands have an airstrip without radar were a big 777 can get down without being noticed. Very strange!

[bangarang]

It definitely feels like some sort of coverup. With all those people on the plane, no one called their families or friends? I recall telephone calls made made from the aircrafts that were hijacked during 9-11 in the US. Not 1 person was able to send out a call to a family member? Seems fishy to me.

[somchaismith]

I won't believe anything until I see the plane.

[macinc]

"A satellite was able to pick up a signal from the plane until 08:11 local time - more than seven hours after it lost radar contact - although it was unable to give a precise location, Mr Razak said."

Due west for about 7 hours............welcome to Somalia!

[Stjohnm]

Now the story changes again.

Sounds like bs to me.

Actually this one is the most sensible one, as jumbo planes do not just disappear from the face of the earth with no trace at all

It's from the Daily Fail there's nothing sensible in that bog roll of a paper

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[umbanda]

Now.....This looks very much like conspiracy to me....

[bigbamboo]

Well at least there's some good news. The plane maybe didn't go down and the passengers could still be alive.

There's not too many places you could land it without attracting attention. Let alone hide it.

What about somewhere in the Pacific?

[TheReporter]

This article is a cut and paste from a yahoo news article earlier this morning. Because it has the exact words as the yahoo news clip.

[Maroon Watcher]

The pilot doesnt sound a bad guy for bending the rules once.

And having a flight Sim at home means he loves flying

OR he has practised landing at an 'unusual' airport...

I hope the passengers and crew are safe on some runway somewhere

and that they can be released quickly.

[anon467367354]

if it exploded, the "black box" would have been sending out signals which is wasn't.

[bangkokheat]

the plane has been hijacked, would not at all be surprised that its going to be loaded with explosives or some biological hazard, to be used on a suicide mission to ???

[Maroon Watcher]

I have met people from Yeman and Pakistan. They were not hostile to me....

They are wasting time looking for the plane at the bottom of the ocean... what they should be doing is scouring every airport in the Middle East of countries that are hostile to the west.... for example YEMEN and PAKISTAN.... no doubt more than a few people are involved.... the plane has not been hijacked for ransom.... it is obvious that whoever is behind this thought it through and are probably using the plane as a weapon... the passengers are in some auditorium being held hostage... but the hijackers do not want them... they are merely "collateral damage.."

Let's see how this plays out....

[captspectre]

This latest report should get the tinfoil hat brigade foaming at the mouth.... I am surprised that no one has concentrated on the 20 or so passengers who were employees of the defence-related company that was involved in making things "disappear"....

That was a real intellegent statement! been hitting the sauce have we?

[Noi657]

the plane has been hijacked, would not at all be surprised that its going to be loaded with explosives or some biological hazard, to be used on a suicide mission to ???

Now that is a scary thought!!

[OMGImInPattaya]

Well at least there's some good news. The plane maybe didn't go down and the passengers could still be alive.

So they're just hiding a triple 7 at some airport/strip somewhere and have been feeding and watering 230 passengers for a week now...is that what you're saying?

[darren84310]

Incredible to think that nobody thought about secret tracking devices fitted into planes, like the ones you can fit into your car in case it's stolen.

Major oversight or what?

[OMGImInPattaya]

I have been saying for the last 5 days that it was most likely hijacked by crew or passengers.

I was labelled a "conspiracy theorist" for my troubles despite it being the most likely and logical explanation.

The Malaysians had been avoiding it and sending people on a wild goose chase in the Gulf of Thailand because the truth will be a huge black eye against Malaysia Airlines and KLIA security.

I don't expect an apology to be forthcoming...

As I mentioned before, any "women" in burkas at KLIA are not asked to remove them in order to verify them against the photo in "their" passport at immigration control or at the gates. There could be anyone inside those outfits.

[Jim walker]

Another wild speculative guess again at least it’s something to keep the international press at bay for a minute or two.

[heybuz]

no matter whats been said its still very strange

[Benmart]

Now the story changes again.

Sounds like bs to me.

Sometimes fact is cloaked in bs. I prefer to leave the investigating to those better experienced and educated than myself.

In the end, my two-Satangs worth of opinion means nothing, except to my ego.

[Benmart]

no matter whats been said its still very strange

As often is the case with things we don't see or experience for ourselves.

[thailandbeachisland]

Now the story changes again.

Sounds like bs to me.

Exactly !

From the first minute I knew that and it's so crazy that monkeys (especially journalists that I do not respect AT ALL) believe the BS.

[EyesWideOpen]

I have been saying for the last 5 days that it was most likely hijacked by crew or passengers.

I was labelled a "conspiracy theorist" for my troubles despite it being the most likely and logical explanation.

The Malaysians had been avoiding it and sending people on a wild goose chase in the Gulf of Thailand because the truth will be a huge black eye against Malaysia Airlines and KLIA security.

I don't expect an apology to be forthcoming...

As I mentioned before, any "women" in burkas at KLIA are not asked to remove them in order to verify them against the photo in "their" passport at immigration control or at the gates. There could be anyone inside those outfits.

Did not know that. So I guess any short terrorist could just put on a burka and board a flight..

So I guess if they can pass security in Canada, they would be a slam dunk for passing security

in Malaysia....... :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h-3frv4tnx8

[Benmart]

Now the story changes again.

Sounds like bs to me.

Exactly !

From the first minute I knew that and it's so crazy that monkeys (especially journalists that I do not respect AT ALL) believe the BS.

During the next tragic incident, please feel free to post your hypothesis beforehand. It may lend itself to a greater degree of credibility.

Be kind to the monkeys. There are some camps that profess they may be our distant relatives.

[smileydude]

Starting to sound like potential hollywood movie fodder.

[bra]

As an aviation professional and ex Air Safety Investigator I have refrained from posting so far as most of the posts , as usual with aviation topics on TV, have been ignorant, arrogant, often racially offensive and its a waste of time to respond.

However some comments. Most of the "chaos" about the search that Malaysian, Vietnamese, Singaporean, Thai, Chinese, US, Australian and NZ participants have ALL conducted is in fact confusion caused by hopelessly inaccurate and sensational press reports - including comments by their "experts". The first thing in any aviation incident is NEVER to place any reliance in press reports. It is most unfortunate that the relatives of those missing have to put up with this.

I have worked on Air Traffic Control and Airport projects extensively in Asia, including 10 years in Malaysia. The Malaysians (and their neighbours) are quire capable of mounting competent search and rescue missions, dependant on the data available. They stated in the right place (then the last known position) and expanded this area as further CONFIRMED new data (not press beat ups) became available.

The only mistake the Malaysians did make was in not having a professional media person to handle the press conferences, and in not holding these more frequently. The press is driven by the 24 hours news cycle - and if they don't get what they think they need they go nuts and run wild in all directions.

The latest CONFIRMED information means searching in a huge area, and support will be needed form the countries in the region, and those with superior detection systems - satellite, aircraft and surface and submarine vessels. We can only hope that they are successful.

The press is not only inaccurate about aviation matters. The Daily Mail report refers to the Malaysian Prime Minister as Mr Razak. He is not - he is Mr Najib. He is a Malay Muslim and in keeping with that tradition his full name is Najib bin Tun Razak - the "bin" means son of his father Tun Razak (the second Prime Minister of Malaysia). Razak is his father's named not his. You cant count on the press to get anything much correct.

[Docno]

It WAS Hijacked...

NO

It is now believed to have been Hijacked

Unless the Malay Government is in direct contact with the hijackers who are demanding a big ransom, how do they know it has been hijacked? I am sure the Chinese will be pleased to know.

Well, there are other reasons to hijack a plane beyond seeking ransom..Flying planes off to Cuba used to be a popular pastime in the 60s and 70s for people seeking 'political refuge' or attention (my parents were on one such flight). I guess the assumption here is that if the locating/communication devices were disabled, the person did so with the intent of taking control of the plane and directing it off course without being detected. That would technically be a hijacking...

[Miami Bob]

Why has no one mentioned the possibility that the plane was taken over by remote control and not necessarily by someone on board. I know " conspiracy theory", but it is a fact that planes can be controlled remotely now, tech has been around for a long time. Lots of possibilities still out there.