After living here for a couple of years I noticed that Thai girls are a hard piece of work and it is much harder to get a real relationship than in Western countries. Many foreigners like me assumed that it would be easy as Thai women are more friendly and outgoing. However if one lacks the "game" then one would be even less succesful here than in our native countries. Any thoughts?

What foreigners men don't get about Thai girls.

Fixed it for you.

AFter living here a couple of decades, I've kinda forgotten what it was like in the West but I disagree that Thai women are more friendly and outgoing.

There are more Thai women who are desperately trying to escape poverty - so they are an easy pick up and a hundred times more subservient than Western ones.

i would say its not hard to find a real relationship here. what is hard is finding a real relationship in a red light district. or finding a real relationship with a model. finding hard working average looking women here is easy if you dont mind being open and honest.

"so they are an easy pick up and a hundred times more subservient than Western ones. "

Good to note that misogyny is alive and well.

too many men here want the easy option; go to a bar meet a girl. they forget that it is the girl's job to meet men and provide a service. whereas if you date someone who has a normal job she is far more likely to be interested in you rather what she can earn from you.

i would guess if your dating experience in your own country was limited to dating prostitutes then you would have a pretty skewed view of relationships.

OP, the majority of Thai women, respect and love their husbands or boyfriends.

Of course there are exceptions, amplified by the media and Forums.

In the age of equality, in the farang world, it's difficult nowadays, to have an honest relationship.

Thai women have been brought up to respect.

Farang women have been brought up to argue.

Regarding what foreigners don't get about Thai women, there is an old Thai saying:

Give a Thai girl a fish, and you feed her for a day; give a Thai girl a fishing pole, and she will beat you over the head with it and take your wallet.

Next?

Regarding what foreigners don't get about Thai women, there is an old Thai saying: Give a Thai girl a fish, and you feed her for a day; give a Thai girl a fishing pole, and she will beat you over the head with it and take your wallet. Next?

A bit of a generalization but made me smile all the same

You didn't notice that unless you speak thai, the conversation doesn't go much beyond where to eat your next meal, did you?

Regarding what foreigners don't get about Thai women, there is an old Thai saying:Give a Thai girl a fish, and you feed her for a day; give a Thai girl a fishing pole, and she will beat you over the head with it and take your wallet.Next?

This anecdote should be written into every thai tourist guidebook.

Roflmao. Classic

You didn't notice that unless you speak thai, the conversation doesn't go much beyond where to eat your next meal, did you?

Thai at Heart, I respect your personal observation, but you can never generalize.

There are many couples in Thailand that can have proper conversations and discuss anything and everything.

Thai people do learn English.

Farangs seldom bother to learn Thai.

You didn't notice that unless you speak thai, the conversation doesn't go much beyond where to eat your next meal, did you?

Thai at Heart, I respect your personal observation, but you can never generalize.

There are many couples in Thailand that can have proper conversations and discuss anything and everything.

Thai people do learn English.

Farangs seldom bother to learn Thai.

This assumed your missus speaks passable English. When I first arrived in thailand, a while ago, in the place I was, there was one girl who spoke English passably, and she learnt it in a coastal resort swinging her thing.

It was learn thai, or satay aloan. I would recommend it. It broadens the selection pool rather massively and I wouldn't have met my wife of 13 years without it. That said, she also talks about her next meal, straight after eating, occasionally.

You didn't notice that unless you speak thai, the conversation doesn't go much beyond where to eat your next meal, did you?

Thai at Heart, I respect your personal observation, but you can never generalize.

There are many couples in Thailand that can have proper conversations and discuss anything and everything.

Thai people do learn English.

Farangs seldom bother to learn Thai.

This assumed your missus speaks passable English. When I first arrived in thailand, a while ago, in the place I was, there was one girl who spoke English passably, and she learnt it in a coastal resort swinging her thing.

It was learn thai, or satay aloan. I would recommend it. It broadens the selection pool rather massively and I wouldn't have met my wife of 13 years without it. That said, she also talks about her next meal, straight after eating, occasionally.

Good point - I wouldn't have met my wife of 13 years too if I hadn't learned Thai

Great topic! Great responses! For a change...was nice to see so many people with mature attitude about Thai women...

Well my Mrs is fluent in English, Spanish and Thai while I am fluent in only English, can jumble a bit of Thai together if hard pressed, and like tapas.

Works for us.

Well my Mrs is fluent in English, Spanish and Thai while I am fluent in only English, can jumble a bit of Thai together if hard pressed, and like tapas.

Works for us.

Thais look good, have good food, and give good massages but once you've met a sweet Filipina, very hard to consider any other nationality, in my opinion. They win hands down in taking care of the man.

Well my Mrs is fluent in English, Spanish and Thai while I am fluent in only English, can jumble a bit of Thai together if hard pressed, and like tapas.

Works for us.

Thais look good, have good food, and give good massages but once you've met a sweet Filipina, very hard to consider any other nationality, in my opinion. They win hands down in taking care of the man.

Qe?

"so they are an easy pick up and a hundred times more subservient than Western ones. "

Good to note that misogyny is alive and well.

Misogyny is it? Nah, just an ignorant, boorish comment, really. But calling it misogynistic, even bringing up the subject, is one of the main reasons some western men prefer Asian women. If western women want to know what real misogyny is, they should go to the Middle East or North Africa or even Latin America... Come to think of it, let's throw China and India in there.

Oh my Buddha. Not another one of these threads.

This gets tiring.

Why are these thread always started by people who haven't been here long and think they know everything, or have been here long but haven't yet broke out of the bubble to actually meet Thailand.

too many men here want the easy option; go to a bar meet a girl. they forget that it is the girl's job to meet men and provide a service. whereas if you date someone who has a normal job she is far more likely to be interested in you rather what she can earn from you.

i would guess if your dating experience in your own country was limited to dating prostitutes then you would have a pretty skewed view of relationships.

SIR

EXCUSE ME

This is thaivisa,no guys on here go to bars,they all meet hi-so goddesses,wash your mouth out

What foreigners need to know about Thai girls.pdf

Regarding what foreigners don't get about Thai women, there is an old Thai saying: Give a Thai girl a fish, and you feed her for a day; give a Thai girl a fishing pole, and she will beat you over the head with it and take your wallet. Next?

JLCrab menages to say in a couple of sentences, what others need to write a book about consisting of 300 pages (or more) and still not hitting the essential spots of Farang/Thai relationships..

Cheers.

OP, good on you for recognizing something that may not be obvious to a novice farang. This could be a good topic if the idiots stay away. The problem with farangs in Thailand is that they get most of their intel from other farangs. And other farangs almost always only know Thai women who are in the "farang scene." Which is to say mostly BGs or serial farang-hunters (mostly prowling on dating sites and farang hang-outs).

Normal Thai girls, e.g., the sort of Thai girls most farangs would want to meet, prefer to speak Thai and do not think that farangs walk on water. They just want a normal relationship with someone they can connect with and talk to. It's really that simple. So if you can't speak Thai, you're relegated to the "farang scene" sort of Thai girl, which sucks.

I've been in Thailand a long time and I have long figured out that most Thai girls prefer a Thai guy about their age. I accept that. But there are plenty of Thai women who, by circumstance, are looking for foreigners. For example, single mothers. Just the other day, I advised a close friend that a single mother may be the best way to go. She'll be ready to settle and won't be "hard work," as the OP says. But if you want to compete with a Thai guy for a grade A hottie, a Thai guy who's got the culture and language advantage down pat, you've got no chance. Sorry, but that's reality.

"so they are an easy pick up and a hundred times more subservient than Western ones. "

Good to note that misogyny is alive and well.

Misogyny is it? Nah, just an ignorant, boorish comment, really. But calling it misogynistic, even bringing up the subject, is one of the main reasons some western men prefer Asian women. If western women want to know what real misogyny is, they should go to the Middle East or North Africa or even Latin America... Come to think of it, let's throw China and India in there.

..because, as we all know, a little bit of misogyny is ok.

i would say its not hard to find a real relationship here. what is hard is finding a real relationship in a red light district. or finding a real relationship with a model. finding hard working average looking women here is easy if you dont mind being open and honest.

Finding women here is even easier if you have 500bht and are prepared to use it.

too many men here want the easy option; go to a bar meet a girl. they forget that it is the girl's job to meet men and provide a service. whereas if you date someone who has a normal job she is far more likely to be interested in you rather what she can earn from you.

i would guess if your dating experience in your own country was limited to dating prostitutes then you would have a pretty skewed view of relationships.

Part 1

Same service, different price structure.

Part 2

Did anyone ever even use a prostitute in their home country?

I know I didn't, and I don't know anyone here or in my home country that admitted to it.

Here, everyone uses prostitutes, and a lot of us marry one of them too, just the way it is.

You didn't notice that unless you speak thai, the conversation doesn't go much beyond where to eat your next meal, did you?

Thai at Heart, I respect your personal observation, but you can never generalize.

There are many couples in Thailand that can have proper conversations and discuss anything and everything.

Thai people do learn English.

Farangs seldom bother to learn Thai.

I agree,

White people who use the word 'farang' never learn Thai, but lots of other white people do.

I've been in Thailand a long time and I have long figured out that most Thai girls prefer a Thai guy about their age. I accept that.

Prefer wealthy Thai guy about their age.

But there are plenty of Thai women who, by circumstance, are looking for foreigners. For example, single mothers. Just the other day, I advised a close friend that a single mother may be the best way to go. She'll be ready to settle and won't be "hard work," as the OP says.

Thai girls that Thai guys don't want (too much baggage, too old, low social status, etc.).

But if you want to compete with a Thai guy for a grade A hottie, a Thai guy who's got the culture and language advantage down pat, you've got no chance. Sorry, but that's reality.

Unless you (foreigner) have a lot more money than him (Thai).