Smoking on Nok Air

[daveAustin]

^^ Immaterial that u had good experiences; the pilot smoking on a commercial aircraft in this day n age is out of order. Well done to the op.

[robertthebruce]

Any type of ''Safety'' in ''Thailand'' , its just a non starter..

[Jip99]

For the second time this year I have suffered badly from cigarette smoke from the Flight Deck.

I hope you didn't spend too much time in hospital from this incident.

How many others were taken ill ? Were there any deaths related to this incident ?

The pilot smoked in his closed room a cigarette....yes that sounds like a real dangerous situation.......yesterday I saw a taxi driver who didn't use a the safety belt ...where I can report that?

Taxi drivers are exempt from seat belt rules.

So you condone a pilot smoking on an airplane ?

I am not familiar with aviation rules but I doubt that smoking anywhere on a plane by the pilot, passengers or God Almighty Himself.

Am I the only one who supports the OP in highlighting this apparent breach of airline safety.

[Johnnyy]

Nope, see my previous post

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For the second time this year I have suffered badly from cigarette smoke from the Flight Deck.

I hope you didn't spend too much time in hospital from this incident.

How many others were taken ill ? Were there any deaths related to this incident ?

Give the guy a break, he might be asthmatic or something.

I come from a family where 2 siblings, who never personally smoked, died from second hand smoke. I support the OP.

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I've used Nok Air many times, flying to Udon Thani, Ubon Ratchathani and a few other places. Personally I think they're the best of the Thai budget carriers but somehow people can still find things to complain about!

I also fly NOK regularly (I don't use the others because their schedules don't suit my meeting times).

Currently, at the two airports I use there is scant to zero checking of ID cards and passports by the NOK gate staff.

A week ago an older Thai lady challenged the gate staff, their on the spot supervisor chimed in 'it's not needed in Thailand'. Passenger responded with a quick summary re the 2 passengers on the Malaysian flight travelling on stolen passports. Supervisor replied, 'that's impossible to happen in Thailand'

Calling their hotline to complain is a total waste of time.

[55Jay]

For the second time this year I have suffered badly from cigarette smoke from the Flight Deck.

I hope you didn't spend too much time in hospital from this incident.

How many others were taken ill ? Were there any deaths related to this incident ?

The pilot smoked in his closed room a cigarette....yes that sounds like a real dangerous situation.......yesterday I saw a taxi driver who didn't use a the safety belt ...where I can report that?

Taxi drivers are exempt from seat belt rules.

So you condone a pilot smoking on an airplane ?

I am not familiar with aviation rules but I doubt that smoking anywhere on a plane by the pilot, passengers or God Almighty Himself.

Am I the only one who supports the OP in highlighting this apparent breach of airline safety.

I am not sure God would appreciate you putting the no-smoking lobby above him, although I have met some who seem to think they are.

[marstons]

If he prepared to break one safety regulation he is prepared to break other safety regulations, if people don't mind flying with a pilot who smokes a burning cigarette then clearly have no cares about air line safety. After all it has to be lit with a naked flame and the air filtration system would be the same for the air crew as the passengers so all would get to share his ciggie on his short flight. As for nicotine deprivation what's Noks longest flight?

[Fookhaht]

After using Air Asia since their inception, I've tried Nok Air for my last three flights. It was generally a good experience. However, this is a thread worth making me reconsider. I put up with bus drivers who smoke in Thailand because I usually don't have a choice of other buses on a route. However, I will certainly look for other competing airlines on Nok's routes, if any. Besides being allergic to cigarette smoke, the safety angle certainly bothers me.

[Fookhaht]

Online feedback can be lodged at the following Nok Air web page:

http://www.nokair.com/contents/nok_care/contact_nokair/en-US/index.html

I sent a message saying that I am concerned about reports of pilots smoking in the cockpit, and referenced this TV thread. I informed them that I am suspending any further use of their airline until I can have feedback from them, verifying the truth/untruth of these reports. I cited airline safety as my main concern. One can hope that it can serve as a heads-up, if the airline has a Customer Service mentality.

I encourage other Nok customers to follow suit.

[HooHaa]

For the second time this year I have suffered badly from cigarette smoke from the Flight Deck.

I hope you didn't spend too much time in hospital from this incident.

How many others were taken ill ? Were there any deaths related to this incident ?

Give the guy a break, he might be asthmatic or something.

most asthmatics i know smoke.

[HooHaa]

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For the second time this year I have suffered badly from cigarette smoke from the Flight Deck.

I hope you didn't spend too much time in hospital from this incident.

How many others were taken ill ? Were there any deaths related to this incident ?

Give the guy a break, he might be asthmatic or something.

I come from a family where 2 siblings, who never personally smoked, died from second hand smoke. I support the OP.

while i sympathize with your loss of two siblings, how on earth can you state definitively that second hand smoke killed them?

[Fookhaht]

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I hope you didn't spend too much time in hospital from this incident.

How many others were taken ill ? Were there any deaths related to this incident ?

Give the guy a break, he might be asthmatic or something.

I come from a family where 2 siblings, who never personally smoked, died from second hand smoke. I support the OP.

while i sympathize with your loss of two siblings, how on earth can you state definitively that second hand smoke killed them?

Whether you can establish the verity of this specific anecdote is immaterial. The effect of second-hand smoke on health is now an established scientific fact; as verifiable as the effects on smokers themselves. Don't try to divert attention from the main contention.

[Briggsy]

Try some of the Phuket media outlets. They might be interested.

[yermanee]

Whether you can establish the verity of this specific anecdote is immaterial. The effect of second-hand smoke on health is now an established scientific fact; as verifiable as the effects on smokers themselves. Don't try to divert attention from the main contention.

Seems I have to debunk that myth once again : http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/study-finds-no-clear-link-between-lung-cancer-and-secondhand-smoke-9004077.html

Yermanee

[marstons]

Now where did i put those fags and lighter, whoops ran off one of the longest runways in Thailand.

2 cigarettes nearly 100 dead thousands injured but second hand smoking does not hurt, yes right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King's_Cross_fire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_City_stadium_fire

Edited April 1, 2014 by marstons

[55Jay]

Whether you can establish the verity of this specific anecdote is immaterial. The effect of second-hand smoke on health is now an established scientific fact; as verifiable as the effects on smokers themselves. Don't try to divert attention from the main contention.

Seems I have to debunk that myth once again : http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/study-finds-no-clear-link-between-lung-cancer-and-secondhand-smoke-9004077.html

Yermanee

Also enjoyed the comments down the bottom in the linked article. Thanks.

[ravip]

What nationality was this obnoxious being flying that tin crap and having the audacity to challenge your accusation with such crap?

Smoking in an aircraft?

Anyone agreeing to that should confine themselves to crap air lines like NOK?

Knock ya selves on NOK

[baneko]

Second hand smoke from a closed cockpit! You must have a nose that could hunt for truffles!

Get over it!

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[tw25rw]

Smoking is anti social behaviour and particularly unpleasant in an enclosed environment. I'm with the OP.

[bkkjames]

I just wonder to myself how naming and shaming are OK in this case?

[MartinBKK]

Well i must admit, after reading this thread i am certainly less likely to make my next trip on Nok air.

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[baneko]

Well i must admit, after reading this thread i am certainly less likely to make my next trip on Nok air.

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Go with Thai and it will cost you 2000 baht more. Then again you wont smell smoke from a terrorist proof cockpit.

Then youll walk into a restaraunt with many people smoking and accept it.

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[Johnnyy]

Can't believe that anyone would defend a Captain who flouts aviation regulations.

Edited April 3, 2014 by Johnnyy

[yermanee]

As far as I know there is no rule by the FAA that forbids pilots from smoking in the cockpit.

It's upto each individual Airline to allow it or not.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/archive/index.php/t-73800.html

If someone can proof otherwise I'll be glad to retract the above.

Yermanee

[baneko]

Can't believe that anyone would defend a Captain who flouts aviation regulations.

Its not like hes flying under telegraph poles. Hes having a sneaky cig on a low cost airline.

Thats if the poster is to be beleived. The man next to him may have had his smoking jacket on.

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Edited April 4, 2014 by baneko

[Johnnyy]

Can't believe that anyone would defend a Captain who flouts aviation regulations.

Its not like hes flying under telegraph poles. Hes having a sneaky cig on a low cost airline.

Thats if the poster is to be beleived. The man next to him may have had his smoking jacket on.

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Let him have a glass of wine with his lunch as well. No problem at all.

[baneko]

Can't believe that anyone would defend a Captain who flouts aviation regulations.

Its not like hes flying under telegraph poles. Hes having a sneaky cig on a low cost airline.

Thats if the poster is to be beleived. The man next to him may have had his smoking jacket on.

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Let him have a glass of wine with his lunch as well. No problem at all.

Smoking and drinking are very different. Just put on the auto pilot and have a nap.

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Edited April 4, 2014 by baneko

[stevenl]

Can't believe that anyone would defend a Captain who flouts aviation regulations.

I would not be surprised at all the main reason smoking on planes is not allowed is because of working regulations, employers are required to offer their employees, like flight attendents, a smoke free workplace.

Safety is in this case probably only a side issue, maybe even a side excuse.

A smoking captain would for me not be a reason not to board a plane, a drinking captain though would be.

[baneko]

Yes buy on long haul flights he could let the co pilot take off. By the time he landed he could be sober!

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