LburtonL Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Just wondering does the cb300f have a range or average on the gauge cluster? Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app good question I didn't look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Just wondering does the cb300f have a range or average on the gauge cluster? Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app good question I didn't look No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 What a shame it would have been a good feature . Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codesh Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Sort of on topic, as it has been mentioned Excuse my ignorance but what difference do USD forks make, apart from aesthetics ?? USD tubes are meant to be better because they are lighter and more rigid. The main disadvantage is that the oil seal is now at the bottom, so it's far easier and quicker to lose the oil and then the damping if a seal should go. The other disadvantage is that they cost more to make than normal forks. I also like upside down forks because they usually have a light shield to protect the fork tubes from pitting caused by stones and mud thrown up by other vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Folks looking to possibly buy the Honda 300 should also take a look at the new Kawasaki singles IMHO Power to weight is slightly better & HP/Torque near identical Price is 118k for the naked & 121k for the ninja http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/756957-kawasaki-ninja-250sl-z-single-cylinder-now-available/#entry8332783 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Bell Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 ^ They definitely got the weight down. 148kg (naked) 151kg (fared). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 ^ They definitely got the weight down. 148kg (naked) 151kg (fared). I think the trellis frame has a lot to do with it + being a single it is more narrow than the Ninja twin So should be nice & flickable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Bell Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 ^ It really comes across as the best sub-300cc bike on the market, unless going for the most power (and most money) with the Ninja 300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Folks looking to possibly buy the Honda 300 should also take a look at the new Kawasaki singles IMHO Power to weight is slightly better & HP/Torque near identical Price is 118k for the naked & 121k for the ninja http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/756957-kawasaki-ninja-250sl-z-single-cylinder-now-available/#entry8332783 yes, very similar bikes, just honda has 300 cc engine a bit more grunt. and honda cb300f is larger than kawa i remember. both wheelbase and dimensions. honda looks handsome and mature as usual and kawasaki sharp. honda made in Thailand and kawa made in Indonesia. i think Thailand better on production quality. honda looks like a better real world bike than kawa IMO. especially for larger farang. byt possibly, you get better handling from kawasaki single 250 ccs. still one cannot go wrong with both these bikes. Edited September 3, 2014 by ll2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Thailand better on production quality...... honda looks like a better real world bike than kawa IMO. especially for larger farang. Heheh that is something I never thought I would see Thailand better on quality As for a large farang should not matter as the Honda 300 & this bike are 99.9% identical in dimensions same seat height etc & the Kawasaki only 1.9" shorter wheelbase which is probably for sport handling but a tiny amount either way. In fact all of these bikes, Ninja 250/300 Honda 250/300 Ninja/Z 250 SL All quite identical in size All have roughly 30.7"/780mm seat heights 54-55/1405mm wheelbases etc Edited September 3, 2014 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_boo Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The new wee Kawasaki definitely looks the part. But considering the HP claims versus the dyno results from previous bikes from them perhaps a bit of patience to see real world output (and weight) is in order before declaring a winner in the kg/hp category? Because let's be honest....going from 5.6kg/hp (claimed) to 6.0kg/hp isn't all that big of a jump. Only 8%. Throw on a 75kg rider and the spread becomes 5%. The flip side is that I would expect the Ninja to have shorter gearing Which should make it more fun in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Bell Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Folks looking to possibly buy the Honda 300 should also take a look at the new Kawasaki singles IMHO Power to weight is slightly better & HP/Torque near identical Price is 118k for the naked & 121k for the ninja http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/756957-kawasaki-ninja-250sl-z-single-cylinder-now-available/#entry8332783 yes, very similar bikes, just honda has 300 cc engine No it does not. You've been taken in by their false advertizing. Edited September 3, 2014 by Deacon Bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The flip side is that I would expect the Ninja to have shorter gearing Which should make it more fun in the city. True although never easy to find Honda gearing specs as they dont list on Honda/powersports etc But here is Kawasaki SL gearing 1st 3.000 (393/11) 2nd 1.933 (29/159) 3rd 1.444 (31/22) 4th 1.217 (28/23) 5th 1.045 (23/22) 6th 0.923 (24/26) And Honda 300 1 - 3.416 2 - 2.250 3 - 1.650 4 - 1.350 5 - 1.166 6 - 1.038 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LburtonL Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Folks looking to possibly buy the Honda 300 should also take a look at the new Kawasaki singles IMHO Power to weight is slightly better & HP/Torque near identical Price is 118k for the naked & 121k for the ninja http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/756957-kawasaki-ninja-250sl-z-single-cylinder-now-available/#entry8332783 yes, very similar bikes, just honda has 300 cc engine No it does not. You've been taken in by their false advertizing. this ....I think seriously to get my ass to another forum,just fed up with all that spamming Edited September 3, 2014 by LburtonL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Thailand better on production quality...... honda looks like a better real world bike than kawa IMO. especially for larger farang. Heheh that is something I never thought I would see Thailand better on quality As for a large farang should not matter as the Honda 300 & this bike are 99.9% identical in dimensions same seat height etc & the Kawasaki only 1.9" shorter wheelbase which is probably for sport handling but a tiny amount either way. In fact all of these bikes, Ninja 250/300 Honda 250/300 Ninja/Z 250 SL All quite identical in size All have roughly 30.7"/780mm seat heights 54-55/1405mm wheelbases etc but that is true Mania i believe Thailand has more roots and experience on this sector than Indonesia. and even with import taxes etc, price is still cheaper than Thai made Honda 300 series. why is that? lesser quality materials? or lower productions costs there? not sure. and 5 cm wheelbase makes a difference imo especially for small bikes. yeah also, we need to check though before speaking if they are really made in Indonesia or maybe they more the production to Thailand a bit? and guys maybe we open another thread if we would like to compare these bikes? we are just derailing this topic right now. lets open honda cb/cbr300 vs kawasaki sl / z 250 thread and do the comparisons there. Edited September 3, 2014 by ll2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Bell Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 price is still cheaper than Thai made Honda 300 series. why is that? lesser quality materials? or lower productions costs there? Honda price gouging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_boo Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The flip side is that I would expect the Ninja to have shorter gearing Which should make it more fun in the city. True although never easy to find Honda gearing specs as they dont list on Honda/powersports etc But here is Kawasaki SL gearing 1st 3.000 (393/11) 2nd 1.933 (29/159) 3rd 1.444 (31/22) 4th 1.217 (28/23) 5th 1.045 (23/22) 6th 0.923 (24/26) And Honda 300 1 - 3.416 2 - 2.250 3 - 1.650 4 - 1.350 5 - 1.166 6 - 1.038 Good find. Assuming the numbers are correct (there are discrepancies on the Ninja's), than the Honda actually has shorter gearing. 13% in first, 16% in second, 14% in third, 11% in fourth, 11% in fifth and 12% in sixth. Going back and assuming that Kawasaki's released weight & hp are realistic...the bikes should accelerate the same. As meaty as the frame looks on the Kawi, and the shorter wheelbase, could it finally stop Honda from winning races? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 As meaty as the frame looks on the Kawi, and the shorter wheelbase, could it finally stop Honda from winning races? Well for this class size I only watch Moto3 GP sadly there are only Honda's KTM's & Mahindra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_boo Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 As meaty as the frame looks on the Kawi, and the shorter wheelbase, could it finally stop Honda from winning races? Well for this class size I only watch Moto3 GP sadly there are only Honda's KTM's & Mahindra It was a not so subtle dig at the Kawasaki fans where the Honda CBR 250s were cleaning their clocks at the Ninjette races State-side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) As meaty as the frame looks on the Kawi, and the shorter wheelbase, could it finally stop Honda from winning races? Well for this class size I only watch Moto3 GP sadly there are only Honda's KTM's & Mahindra It was a not so subtle dig at the Kawasaki fans where the Honda CBR 250s were cleaning their clocks at the Ninjette races State-side. You know for that class engine size there has to be a good reason Moto3 goes single cylinder I think it is critical class weight wise & also they can build a narrow focused bike around it. While I do not like the thumper singles they do in fact get those Moto3 singles to sing 50+hp @ 9-14000 rpm But of course short engine hours at those rpm's Edited September 3, 2014 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Folks looking to possibly buy the Honda 300 should also take a look at the new Kawasaki singles IMHO Power to weight is slightly better & HP/Torque near identical Price is 118k for the naked & 121k for the ninja http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/756957-kawasaki-ninja-250sl-z-single-cylinder-now-available/#entry8332783 yes, very similar bikes, just honda has 300 cc engine No it does not. You've been taken in by their false advertizing. no, it is not false advertising. the model of the bike is not cbr300cc rr or they never claim it is 300 cc too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
properperson Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 what have the last 10 posts got to do with the CB300F thread ?? can't you start your own Kawa 250 thread and leave us in peace ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LburtonL Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 there's no moderator on this forum ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Folks looking to possibly buy the Honda 300 should also take a look at the new Kawasaki singles IMHO Power to weight is slightly better & HP/Torque near identical Price is 118k for the naked & 121k for the ninja http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/756957-kawasaki-ninja-250sl-z-single-cylinder-now-available/#entry8332783 yes, very similar bikes, just honda has 300 cc engine No it does not. You've been taken in by their false advertizing. Let it go. 300cc class bike, name all the bikes that have exactly the same cc as their names suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Folks looking to possibly buy the Honda 300 should also take a look at the new Kawasaki singles IMHO Power to weight is slightly better & HP/Torque near identical Price is 118k for the naked & 121k for the ninja http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/756957-kawasaki-ninja-250sl-z-single-cylinder-now-available/#entry8332783 yes, very similar bikes, just honda has 300 cc engine No it does not. You've been taken in by their false advertizing. Let it go. 300cc class bike, name all the bikes that have exactly the same cc as their names suggest. so lets name honda cbr250 as honda cbr249? c'mon. honda cbr 287r does sound odd a bit, no? just let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LburtonL Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) I just love their product Edited September 3, 2014 by LburtonL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LburtonL Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 and no i don't get pay by BIKERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1409734673.506276.jpgImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1409734690.123573.jpg I just love their product man, bikers offer the best quality aluminum and design not in Thailand but nearly all around the world IMO. the first part you have to buy from them i think is their sliders IMO. it is a good investment for your bike and they are quite sturdy with a nice design. you can even carry plastic bags on those sliders:) seriously, i was doing my weekly shopping this way and still use the same way on my cbr650f Protective parts have to come first! i also used their rear set for cbr250 - actually i still have it! - and it was also very good. i am also waiting for their clip on system for my cbr650f. Edited September 3, 2014 by ll2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1409734867.750656.jpg and no i don't get pay by BIKERS here is what i had on my cbr250r. i still have them wrapped in papers and waiting in a dry place including the Dan Moto pipe. cbr250r and 300f chassis is the same so all fit. will sell them soon for cheap as at least someone can use them. if anyone interested, pm me. attached some photos, just to give you and others an example on how nice these parts are looking! but certainly quality does not come cheap. Edited September 3, 2014 by ll2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LburtonL Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 nice ll2 I think that the new red parts will not be same same color and now they are doing red/black not red/silver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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