Koh Tao murders: Police chief reconfirms Myanmar migrant workers are real suspects

[KissMyAxe]

its a cigarette lighter holder

this is where the media is dangerous.. it makes you think twice .... maybe everyone hates the corruption of the police force so much that are almost wishing that the mafia on the island are eventually caught out and the scotch guy is somehow implicated... or whatever our desires require... when in reality maybe no one will ever know what happened that night .. maybe it was fishermen that swam to shore never to be seen again... I hope I am wrong...

[Waffle]

"but as the General has stated its been a perfect investigation and he is extremely happy with the current outcome"

Wonderful trolling.

[Miscal]

It should be clarified when Sean's wounds were first noticed.

Was it after the murders (15-21 Sep), or after he was pursued into 7-11 on the 22nd?

It has only occurred to me now that the wounds could have been inflicted as part of a frame-up, the day he escaped into 7-11.

An AC bar worker claiming he was covered in blood on the night (of the murders) is mmm - an AC bar employee...

from his soundcloud account ....

Sean Hayes McAnna says:

@csi la, I don't have a means of contacting you directly. I deleted Facebook and I'm not giving out my email address or phone number.

The cut was from my bike, so was the burn on my leg. I don't know why that's hard to understand. I've said it enough times. In any case, if it needs to be proven I can use video evidence from a bar I went to on the 10th and 11th. But they don't want the attention of plastic detectives or bad custom ruining their bar. Main thing is, it's provable. And the police took the blood from my guitar and my bag, which matched my DNA (I had everything on when I came off the bike, hence why they had blood on them). After the crash I went straight to the dive shop I was going to be working with and they seen it too (they had to sort my accommodation as part of the course)

Also, to the other username guy: I spoke to the Sunday mail. They haven't put anything up yet, but the full conversation was about what happened the night I got chased to the shop, and why the accusations are being thrown my way. I've also mentioned that no one believes it was the 2 Burmese guys and anyone would be stupid to even consider it.

But listen to me. You don't know me. You don't know how this has affected me. You are wrong about me. So think about what that means to tell someone that they've murdered their friend, or that they're holding something back which could help the family get past it or save two lives. I'm devastated mate. But no, I'm not scared for my life. I'm in Europe in a flat with a job and a girlfriend. If I had anything worth saying I would say it. Again, the papers misconstrued my comments disastrously. I've done nothing wrong and although I want people to keep pushing on this case to get it solved, I also want people to have a bit of consideration and ask themselves "what if I'm wrong?" before insulting me on a place where my mother and sisters can read your spiteful little comments.

Thank you

[ParadiseLost]

It should be clarified when Sean's wounds were first noticed.

Was it after the murders (15-21 Sep), or after he was pursued into 7-11 on the 22nd?

It has only occurred to me now that the wounds could have been inflicted as part of a frame-up, the day he escaped into 7-11.

An AC bar worker claiming he was covered in blood on the night (of the murders) is mmm - an AC bar employee...

from his soundcloud account ....

Sean Hayes McAnna says:

@csi la, I don't have a means of contacting you directly. I deleted Facebook and I'm not giving out my email address or phone number.

The cut was from my bike, so was the burn on my leg. I don't know why that's hard to understand. I've said it enough times. In any case, if it needs to be proven I can use video evidence from a bar I went to on the 10th and 11th. But they don't want the attention of plastic detectives or bad custom ruining their bar. Main thing is, it's provable. And the police took the blood from my guitar and my bag, which matched my DNA (I had everything on when I came off the bike, hence why they had blood on them). After the crash I went straight to the dive shop I was going to be working with and they seen it too (they had to sort my accommodation as part of the course)

Also, to the other username guy: I spoke to the Sunday mail. They haven't put anything up yet, but the full conversation was about what happened the night I got chased to the shop, and why the accusations are being thrown my way. I've also mentioned that no one believes it was the 2 Burmese guys and anyone would be stupid to even consider it.

But listen to me. You don't know me. You don't know how this has affected me. You are wrong about me. So think about what that means to tell someone that they've murdered their friend, or that they're holding something back which could help the family get past it or save two lives. I'm devastated mate. But no, I'm not scared for my life. I'm in Europe in a flat with a job and a girlfriend. If I had anything worth saying I would say it. Again, the papers misconstrued my comments disastrously. I've done nothing wrong and although I want people to keep pushing on this case to get it solved, I also want people to have a bit of consideration and ask themselves "what if I'm wrong?" before insulting me on a place where my mother and sisters can read your spiteful little comments.

Thank you

I'm sorry, but all words and no move to prove anything, or to clear your name forever? You have video footage but you cannot release it, to protect the good name of the bar? A few minutes of footage would stop most of the speculation immediately, full stop. Just more avoidance imo. Not many bars around that have an image to protect.

[lausie]

It should be clarified when Sean's wounds were first noticed.

Was it after the murders (15-21 Sep), or after he was pursued into 7-11 on the 22nd?

It has only occurred to me now that the wounds could have been inflicted as part of a frame-up, the day he escaped into 7-11.

An AC bar worker claiming he was covered in blood on the night (of the murders) is mmm - an AC bar employee...

from his soundcloud account ....

Sean Hayes McAnna says:

@csi la, I don't have a means of contacting you directly. I deleted Facebook and I'm not giving out my email address or phone number.

The cut was from my bike, so was the burn on my leg. I don't know why that's hard to understand. I've said it enough times. In any case, if it needs to be proven I can use video evidence from a bar I went to on the 10th and 11th. But they don't want the attention of plastic detectives or bad custom ruining their bar. Main thing is, it's provable. And the police took the blood from my guitar and my bag, which matched my DNA (I had everything on when I came off the bike, hence why they had blood on them). After the crash I went straight to the dive shop I was going to be working with and they seen it too (they had to sort my accommodation as part of the course)

Also, to the other username guy: I spoke to the Sunday mail. They haven't put anything up yet, but the full conversation was about what happened the night I got chased to the shop, and why the accusations are being thrown my way. I've also mentioned that no one believes it was the 2 Burmese guys and anyone would be stupid to even consider it.

But listen to me. You don't know me. You don't know how this has affected me. You are wrong about me. So think about what that means to tell someone that they've murdered their friend, or that they're holding something back which could help the family get past it or save two lives. I'm devastated mate. But no, I'm not scared for my life. I'm in Europe in a flat with a job and a girlfriend. If I had anything worth saying I would say it. Again, the papers misconstrued my comments disastrously. I've done nothing wrong and although I want people to keep pushing on this case to get it solved, I also want people to have a bit of consideration and ask themselves "what if I'm wrong?" before insulting me on a place where my mother and sisters can read your spiteful little comments.

Thank you

I'm sorry, but all words and no move to prove anything, or to clear your name forever? You have video footage but you cannot release it, to protect the good name of the bar? A few minutes of footage would stop most of the speculation immediately, full stop. Just more avoidance imo. Not many bars around that have an image to protect.

I seem to remember seeing a Brit based on KT confirming that she had seen the cut on Sean's arm days before the murders and she said that they were from a motorbike incident. I think she posted it on Facebook but I wouldn't have a clue where to find it now. Did anyone else see it? Of course she might not be telling the truth, but it would seem odd to lie/cover for him given the circumstances.

His latest message seems pretty coherent. Will be interesting to see the Sunday Mail article...

[littlebw]

It should be clarified when Sean's wounds were first noticed.

Was it after the murders (15-21 Sep), or after he was pursued into 7-11 on the 22nd?

It has only occurred to me now that the wounds could have been inflicted as part of a frame-up, the day he escaped into 7-11.

An AC bar worker claiming he was covered in blood on the night (of the murders) is mmm - an AC bar employee...

from his soundcloud account ....

Sean Hayes McAnna says:

@csi la, I don't have a means of contacting you directly. I deleted Facebook and I'm not giving out my email address or phone number.

The cut was from my bike, so was the burn on my leg. I don't know why that's hard to understand. I've said it enough times. In any case, if it needs to be proven I can use video evidence from a bar I went to on the 10th and 11th. But they don't want the attention of plastic detectives or bad custom ruining their bar. Main thing is, it's provable. And the police took the blood from my guitar and my bag, which matched my DNA (I had everything on when I came off the bike, hence why they had blood on them). After the crash I went straight to the dive shop I was going to be working with and they seen it too (they had to sort my accommodation as part of the course)

Also, to the other username guy: I spoke to the Sunday mail. They haven't put anything up yet, but the full conversation was about what happened the night I got chased to the shop, and why the accusations are being thrown my way. I've also mentioned that no one believes it was the 2 Burmese guys and anyone would be stupid to even consider it.

But listen to me. You don't know me. You don't know how this has affected me. You are wrong about me. So think about what that means to tell someone that they've murdered their friend, or that they're holding something back which could help the family get past it or save two lives. I'm devastated mate. But no, I'm not scared for my life. I'm in Europe in a flat with a job and a girlfriend. If I had anything worth saying I would say it. Again, the papers misconstrued my comments disastrously. I've done nothing wrong and although I want people to keep pushing on this case to get it solved, I also want people to have a bit of consideration and ask themselves "what if I'm wrong?" before insulting me on a place where my mother and sisters can read your spiteful little comments.

Thank you

I'm sorry, but all words and no move to prove anything, or to clear your name forever? You have video footage but you cannot release it, to protect the good name of the bar? A few minutes of footage would stop most of the speculation immediately, full stop. Just more avoidance imo. Not many bars around that have an image to protect.

Sean is defo involved or knows something

Cannot contact you , dont remember etc

wouldnt take 2 mins to prove cut on arm was prior to murders

has he been silenced? hope the lawyers are on to him

[JLCrab]

Sean -- Come back -- where are you? -- we're trying to find you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HouZ5GHxlpQ#t=140

[chongtak]

Prove it by sending the DNA outside of Thailand for independent testing. All other evidence can be planted or otherwise interfered with, while confessions can be easily extracted.

Regarding the DNA testing, it was done in Singapore.

My understanding was that they were going to send samples of the semen to Singapore to do the racial profiling which presumably they are unable to do. There was never any confirmation that it went to Singapore but some one came up with the result that both semen samples were from Asian males which brought the investigation of Farang suspects to a dead end. There was never any suggestion that Singapore would be asked to do the DNA matching and Khunying Pornthip has stated that Thailand has the capability to do all the DNA testing without help from the FBI or other outsiders.

https://twitter.com/pakhead/status/519394676931969024

Exactly, the comparing was done in Thailand. The points are ... they said they were sending the DNA from the crime scene to Singapore to find out race since Thailand could not do that test (probably Y-DNA test) and that Thailand could only confirm the sex being male. Later it was announced they were Asian.

But the bigger point being is there are at least 3 Universities that have the original DNA from the crime scene results on file and the suspects lawyers can use the universities to re-compare their clients DNA if there is doubt ... not to mention they can likely compare it with Singapore too.

I hope the comparison will be done. What I am affraid of is that the RTP have switched the DNA samples since long ago.

[lausie]

If anyone is interested in doing the same, I'm currently putting a bit of effort into trawling through photos on Instagram using various hashtags (#KohTaoBarCrawl #KohTaoPubCrawl #ACBar, #KohTao etc). It's a bit of a time consuming process, but a photo of Uni Boy on KT on Sunday 14th Sept would make for an interesting development and a photo of Sean with a cut on his arm prior to Sunday 14th Sept would also deal with that question mark...

[Tazwa]

Police seeking former village headman's son who fled island

BANGKOK: -- Police are looking for the son of a former Koh Tao village headman in their pursuit of the killers of two British backpackers on the night of September 14, after learning that the man left the island the following morning.

A police source said the man they want to find landed on the Surat Thani coast and disappeared. Police say they want to interrogate him first. The Nation 24/9/14

BANGKOK — The prime suspect behind the brutal killing of two British backpackers on a resort island in southern Thailand is currently hiding in the capital city, police say.

Warot, 22, reportedly fled Koh Tao shortly after David Miller, 24, and Hannah Witheridge, 23, were found beaten to death on one of the island's beaches there last week. Khosod English 24/9/14

When reports like these came out not long after the murders, it's easy to see why so many people are skeptical.

[traveller 2020]

Well sean mcanna is stating on his soundcloud profile that he sustained those wounds when he fell off his bike and the bike has been given to a female as a gift for helping him escape from koh tao the next day , he also states he cannot supply a description of his bike as he doesn't wish to identify his female assistant ???? / life saver .. OK if he hasn't done anything wrong or is implicated or knows anything about this savage rape and murder case how come he has to seek assistance to flee the island or cannot identify what his bike look likes or where it is now .

Possibly someone helped clean him up and the bike , OK ? but why hide it and her ?

If he knows nothing and wasn't there why leave ? just make a statement to the police ! and nothing to run away about , my silly question is ..why run ? why hide ? why state you are somewhere in europe , what's the problem ? also why state the local police chief apologized to him , what for ?

because an off duty policeman threatened him , why ? also why did he need assistance to get off the island ? innocent people usually just go when and where they want without assistance ?? I dont understand what he is raving on about but for anyone to see sean mcanna's current dialogue on all this you can see his postings on his soundcloud page including his reasoning for not submitting a picture of his arm and leg wounds .

doesn't quite add up ????

[Wilsonandson]

Breaking news on ko tao case http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29604685

[littlebw]

Well sean mcanna is stating on his soundcloud profile that he sustained those wounds when he fell off his bike and the bike has been given to a female as a gift for helping him escape from koh tao the next day , he also states he cannot supply a description of his bike as he doesn't wish to identify his female assistant ???? / life saver .. OK if he hasn't done anything wrong or is implicated or knows anything about this savage rape and murder case how come he has to seek assistance to flee the island or cannot identify what his bike look likes or where it is now .

Possibly someone helped clean him up and the bike , OK ? but why hide it and her ?

If he knows nothing and wasn't there why leave ? just make a statement to the police ! and nothing to run away about , my silly question is ..why run ? why hide ? why state you are somewhere in europe , what's the problem ? also why state the local police chief apologized to him , what for ?

because an off duty policeman threatened him , why ? also why did he need assistance to get off the island ? innocent people usually just go when and where they want without assistance ?? I dont understand what he is raving on about but for anyone to see sean mcanna's current dialogue on all this you can see his postings on his soundcloud page including his reasoning for not submitting a picture of his arm and leg wounds .

doesn't quite add up ????

my reply

Do you know what it looks like yea? You were involved but didnt kill, you were protected by the killer(s), after a week or so , no scapegoat for killers and RTP, next best thing -you . You escaped and set the ball rolling (thank you or else 2 innocent human beings may have punished with death) then yo did a deal with RTP that you would not say anything about the killers for your freedom

[traveller 2020]

Well sean mcanna is stating on his soundcloud profile that he sustained those wounds when he fell off his bike and the bike has been given to a female as a gift for helping him escape from koh tao the next day , he also states he cannot supply a description of his bike as he doesn't wish to identify his female assistant ???? / life saver .. OK if he hasn't done anything wrong or is implicated or knows anything about this savage rape and murder case how come he has to seek assistance to flee the island or cannot identify what his bike look likes or where it is now .

Possibly someone helped clean him up and the bike , OK ? but why hide it and her ?

If he knows nothing and wasn't there why leave ? just make a statement to the police ! and nothing to run away about , my silly question is ..why run ? why hide ? why state you are somewhere in europe , what's the problem ? also why state the local police chief apologized to him , what for ?

because an off duty policeman threatened him , why ? also why did he need assistance to get off the island ? innocent people usually just go when and where they want without assistance ?? I dont understand what he is raving on about but for anyone to see sean mcanna's current dialogue on all this you can see his postings on his soundcloud page including his reasoning for not submitting a picture of his arm and leg wounds .

doesn't quite add up ????

my reply

Do you know what it looks like yea? You were involved but didnt kill, you were protected by the killer(s), after a week or so , no scapegoat for killers and RTP, next best thing -you . You escaped and set the ball rolling (thank you or else 2 innocent human beings may have punished with death) then yo did a deal with RTP that you would not say anything about the killers for your freedom

Hi little BW ! yes i've seen your posts at soundcloud and was impressed you actually got a personal response from mcanna , i see hes stated there the police should seek 3 staff members from the ac bar whom have not showed for work since this event , im thinking he obviously knows them , so why doesn't he just name them , possibly sounds like a trade off / deal with the rtp to walk away , how do you see that possible scenario

[traveller 2020]

Hey Little BW , im starting to think you're right on the money here ???????????????????

[traveller 2020]

mcannas first FB post , the AC bar guys did it ! the island mafia are trying to kill me ...please help me ...then a confrontation with them , he seeks refuge in a mini mart then police called , they discuss the matter with the bar guys , then guarantee him police protection , bar guys walk away , mcanna hides then flees the next day , the rest we all know , think about it .... then he doesn't remember anything

[Wilsonandson]

More on today,s developments http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/thailand-beach-murders-diplomat-quizzed-4431991

[traveller 2020]

now on soundcloud mcanna is suggesting 3 AC bar guys need to be talked to as they haven't shown up at work since this event , why doesn't he name them and why did the police who were called to investigate their threatening him after interviewing them there let them leave and then guaranteed mcanna police protection , then he hid and fled , walked off the island with no interference .

i might be stupid but that looks like police protection and assistance to flee for a person of interest with knowledge or information

[Franky Bear]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/fco-minister-summons-thai-charge-daffaires-to-foreign-office

[littlebw]

now on soundcloud mcanna is suggesting 3 AC bar guys need to be talked to as they haven't shown up at work since this event , why doesn't he name them and why did the police who were called to investigate their threatening him after interviewing them there let them leave and then guaranteed mcanna police protection , then he hid and fled , walked off the island with no interference .

i might be stupid but that looks like police protection and assistance to flee for a person of interest with knowledge or information

Surely there is people on the island who can confirm this? this is one of the first things the RTP will have done?

is Sean making things up?

[traveller 2020]

Heres a possible scenario Mcanna is there at the crime scene for whatever reasons, then Hannah becomes a target ? things get rough , David becomes defensive , it gets worse then it starts to get violent , David gets in a scuffle trying to protect Hannah , Sean steps in cops a couple of nicks then flees , we all know what then happened to David and Hannah , later some guys track down Sean he is accosted and threatened ( perhaps as a witness to assault ) but wasn't there for the actual murder or rape / murder . He panics starts facebooking begging for help , he states on his facebook the ac bar guys did it ! mafia trying to kill me , the bar guys wait around , the police show up , they question the bar guys whom then are allowed to leave , Mcanna has now calmed down but he's still shitting himself , the police guarantee him police protection as they have discussed the matter at whatever situation with the bar guys , Mcanna then hides overnight and soon the police chief contacts him with an apology and guarantees him protection , he flees the island goes very very quiet then now is on soundcloud denying he knows anything but suggests there are 3 guys from the AC bar that haven't returned there and they should be be commenting ! he states now he was being set up to be a scapegoat and anyone with half a brain knew the burmese would get the blame.

[traveller 2020]

Mcanna is posting these comments on his soundcloud page , have a look and see !

[mataleo]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/thailand-beach-murders-diplomat-quizzed-4431991

[smokie36]

The UK is turning the screw before tomorrow's hearing.

[evadgib]

The Thai charge d'affaires has been summoned to the UK Foreign Office over concerns about the inquiry into the murders of two British tourists.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29604685

Edited October 13, 2014 by evadgib

[mataleo]

hows things in the AC bar these days?

troll alert

HI EVERYONE I'M JUST A NEW MEMBER HERE BUT I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS TRAGIC AND HORRIFIC CASE SINCE IT HAPPENED

I ALSO FEEL VERY CONCERNED AS A TRAVEL AGENT I HAVE SENT TOURISTS TO THAILAND AND ALSO TO THE ISLANDS .

I have also visited Koh Tao

So far fortunately those travellers apart from two small robberies were unharmed , however this case and i beleive previous others that were never reported ( date rape / robberies ) need to re considered more carefully and much more seriously .

WITH DEEPEST RESPECT FOR THE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND TO ALL THE THAI AUTHORITIES I WOULD LIKE TO HUMBLY SAY

I have my own view that the two local boatmen are suspects in this current case , they fled the island at a very odd hour ( before dawn ) and one hid out in a cave !.

Also Police confirm both were so heavily affected by substance they couldn't respond to questioning ?

If involved they showed no signs of assault because they swam to their boats ( no blood trail ) a point made here by some more avid readers .

They usually hang out drink / and sleep on that beach.

They know their way around those areas and can avoid detection as they frequently taxi tourists

I BELIEVE THE TWO MEN WHO ACCOSTED SEAN MCANNA DID SO SO AS THEY HEARD HE RECEIVED A CUT WOULD THAT NIGHT AND WAS ASSISTED BY SOMEONE TO CLEAN UP

THEY KNEW HIM WELL

They approached him as they indeed believed him to be involved and they obtained one of his phones ( confiscated it as he was taking pictures of them with another ) and this phone was recovered and then later the police obtained it.

I DON'T THINK THEY THREATENED HIM WITH THE ACTUAL WORDS HE CLAIMED HOWEVER I DO BELIEVE THEY ACCUSED HIM OF HAVING INVOLVEMENT ( blood on his hands ) and insisted he did know who was responsible.

Apparently they had an earlier altercation with him at another bar on that fateful night

I SINCERELY BELIEVE THAT SEAN MCANNA IS INVOLVED IN THE CASE OF DAVID AND HANNAH

I THINK HE CAN IDENTIFY THE REAL CULPRITS WHOM I BELIEVE ARE DO INCLUDE THE TWO BOATMEN WHOM FLED AND HID

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE MORE CULPRITS INVOLVED

I believe that the local headsman's family WERE NOT involved in this particular crime and as some people suspect .

I feel the Thai authorities know something about this too , however one can imagine the damage to the island tourism if two local taxi boatmen were convicted of raping and butchering tourists especially with a much needed high season approaching and due to the decline of tourists this year affected by the protests in bangkok and then the coup.

I think the two boatmen and others were so off the planet when they found David , Hannah and Sean and perhaps with some other local bar staff and kicked in they went off the rails in a drug / alcohol frenzy and Sean escaped with minor wounding.

I also believe that due to Seans possible previous involvement with unsuspecting tourists whom may of been robbed or assaulted he was known to these assailants and therefore cannot provide testament as to the possibility of implicating himself.

I think Mcanna has an addiction to substance ( self induced) that required financial injection which he couldn't maintain on his bartending , busking employment alone thus he was forced to deal / sell similar substances to acquire these , also in trade form ( cash / substance goods )

As a beachside barman , selling theses substances , it is also too easy to add whatever is requested by someone to a customers beverages with or without their knowledge !

I know of a case in Bali where an expatriate working as a barman in a local club spiked tourists drinks for cash / substances allowing local predators ( serial date rapists ) easier access to their prey, one of the main offenders actually owned that bar .

I think Sean had plan to hook up that night with David and Hannah but when they met up , they were accosted and assaulted by the culprits

I do not think in this case that he had intended to set them up but was there when it happened , the real fear for him and his reason to flee is not from any locals threatening him , its his fear of being implicated or identified in previous situations that were never reported or investigated

I received some advice that he was also providing substances to underage local females and in some case for sexual favours or possibly committing those with or without their consent

Considering his attraction and desire for underage female companionship i would seem to have this view

Looking at his photos it is quite apparent he does not take good care of himself and displays a demure of self neglect / destruction and extreme hard partying / living brought on by substance abuse / addiction ( alcohol or what ever )

He was known to drink heavily and pass out and known at most bars on that island

I believe he has knowledge which can identify the culprits who committed this hideous and awful crime of lust and frenzied feeding on two innocent and fine young people

I also think without his statement he will probably continue to protect his own self and with a long term guilty conscience will need more of his addiction to self destructing substances until he self expires , I feel somewhat humbly qualified to pen this comment as I am a bachelor of psychology with a masters degree and would profile him as such study.

I write this comments with all respect to all concerned and with the utmost respect for Thai citizens and their authorities and urge them to investigate this matter more thoroughly as without enough confidence in their legal and protective enforcement I simply am now ( as other travel agents i know ) reluctant to send more tourists to their island destinations until satisfied that more and more acute and random attacks are being aimed at vulnerable tourists some of these are now mortal

Thanks for anyone reading my humble posts and I once again state I have no direct intention to Insult , defame or upset any particular person or party or authority or organization , love and peace to all , especially to the families of David and Dannah and the families of previous victims

Lol

Fishy

Good try steering it on boatman

Edited October 13, 2014 by mataleo

[Jiu-Jitsu]

I honestly think that people should take it easy with the McAnna speculation. If he was a person of interest, he can be found. So let us assume that he is not, unless evidence is found to the contrary.

[Dogmatix]

It should be clarified when Sean's wounds were first noticed.

Was it after the murders (15-21 Sep), or after he was pursued into 7-11 on the 22nd?

It has only occurred to me now that the wounds could have been inflicted as part of a frame-up, the day he escaped into 7-11.

An AC bar worker claiming he was covered in blood on the night (of the murders) is mmm - an AC bar employee...

from his soundcloud account ....

Sean Hayes McAnna says:

@csi la, I don't have a means of contacting you directly. I deleted Facebook and I'm not giving out my email address or phone number.

The cut was from my bike, so was the burn on my leg. I don't know why that's hard to understand. I've said it enough times. In any case, if it needs to be proven I can use video evidence from a bar I went to on the 10th and 11th. But they don't want the attention of plastic detectives or bad custom ruining their bar. Main thing is, it's provable. And the police took the blood from my guitar and my bag, which matched my DNA (I had everything on when I came off the bike, hence why they had blood on them). After the crash I went straight to the dive shop I was going to be working with and they seen it too (they had to sort my accommodation as part of the course)

Also, to the other username guy: I spoke to the Sunday mail. They haven't put anything up yet, but the full conversation was about what happened the night I got chased to the shop, and why the accusations are being thrown my way. I've also mentioned that no one believes it was the 2 Burmese guys and anyone would be stupid to even consider it.

But listen to me. You don't know me. You don't know how this has affected me. You are wrong about me. So think about what that means to tell someone that they've murdered their friend, or that they're holding something back which could help the family get past it or save two lives. I'm devastated mate. But no, I'm not scared for my life. I'm in Europe in a flat with a job and a girlfriend. If I had anything worth saying I would say it. Again, the papers misconstrued my comments disastrously. I've done nothing wrong and although I want people to keep pushing on this case to get it solved, I also want people to have a bit of consideration and ask themselves "what if I'm wrong?" before insulting me on a place where my mother and sisters can read your spiteful little comments.

Thank you

I'm sorry, but all words and no move to prove anything, or to clear your name forever? You have video footage but you cannot release it, to protect the good name of the bar? A few minutes of footage would stop most of the speculation immediately, full stop. Just more avoidance imo. Not many bars around that have an image to protect.

I seem to remember seeing a Brit based on KT confirming that she had seen the cut on Sean's arm days before the murders and she said that they were from a motorbike incident. I think she posted it on Facebook but I wouldn't have a clue where to find it now. Did anyone else see it? Of course she might not be telling the truth, but it would seem odd to lie/cover for him given the circumstances.

His latest message seems pretty coherent. Will be interesting to see the Sunday Mail article...

I have no idea how or when Sean got the cuts on his arm and leg but they don't look like any bike accident wounds I've seen before. The one on his leg doesn't look like a burn from bike exhaust pipe either.

He seems to fall on his feet with girlfriends and jobs everywhere. I hope local parents are keeping their bambini safe.

[Dogmatix]

Heres a possible scenario Mcanna is there at the crime scene for whatever reasons, then Hannah becomes a target ? things get rough , David becomes defensive , it gets worse then it starts to get violent , David gets in a scuffle trying to protect Hannah , Sean steps in cops a couple of nicks then flees , we all know what then happened to David and Hannah , later some guys track down Sean he is accosted and threatened ( perhaps as a witness to assault ) but wasn't there for the actual murder or rape / murder . He panics starts facebooking begging for help , he states on his facebook the ac bar guys did it ! mafia trying to kill me , the bar guys wait around , the police show up , they question the bar guys whom then are allowed to leave , Mcanna has now calmed down but he's still shitting himself , the police guarantee him police protection as they have discussed the matter at whatever situation with the bar guys , Mcanna then hides overnight and soon the police chief contacts him with an apology and guarantees him protection , he flees the island goes very very quiet then now is on soundcloud denying he knows anything but suggests there are 3 guys from the AC bar that haven't returned there and they should be be commenting ! he states now he was being set up to be a scapegoat and anyone with half a brain knew the burmese would get the blame.

Did he get police protection? Mon's friend who went after him is a policeman. I thought it was the foreign journalists who let him hang around them until he got on the ferry that protected him. He might not has witnessed anything but, if I were investigating this case, I would want to interview him at length for background information. It would probably be a hard job, as he seems rather deluded and incoherent. Too many qualudes perhaps.

Edited October 13, 2014 by Dogmatix

[traveller 2020]

Sean Mcannas own words as posed by him at www.soundclound.com

What do people think could stop me giving information on the killers if I did know anything? I'm in Europe. I'm safe. And I would love to be able to do anything to help the families of Dave and Hanna. But there's nothing I can do. My wounds were from before. They just were

But the fact I was threatened by family of the AC owner and by the owner of 'in touch' was (in my eyes) a good lead for starting the investigation

. Unfortunately, even though I said to the papers that they need to look for the 3 guys who haven't shown up for work at AC since it happened. Although I said that "Burmese guys will be blamed" and that "they won't let Thai people go down for the sake of the tourist industry", and even though everyone said the same, the police went ahead and did it anyway

I've been called a drug addict, a drug dealer, a paedophile, a murderer, some sort of rape organiser, a liar, a coward and a lot more things. I've had my life threatened as a scapegoat. I've done nothing wrong and I've never claimed to know more than I did. Newspapers have lied about me multiple times for multiple reasons

Listen. What's going to happen here, is that you guys will get some other poor innocent bastard in trouble for something he didn't do. Not me. Because if there was any possible way to frame me they wouldn't have allowed me to leave the country

Newspapers have lied about me ????

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/revealed-scot-who-fled-thai-4306609

I'm truly innocent !