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Monk wants an institute to monitor politicians

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BANGKOK: -- A former core leader of the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PRC) has proposed to the National Legislative Assembly an idea that a national institute be established to regulate and monitor the behavior and ethical conduct of politicians.

The above idea was contained in a letter submitted to NLA president Pornpetch Wichitcholachai this morning by Phra Buddha Isara, abbot of Wat Or Noi in Nakhon Pathom who played a crucial role in the protests against Ms Yingluck government last and early this year.

The monk said that he would like the NLA to draft a bill to set up the national political institute to regulate and monitor the conduct of politicians with the authority to suspend the activities of any politician once there is a complaint against him or her.

He went on saying that there should be a law making corruption cases ungoverned by the statute of limitations meaning that the cases will never expire and can always be brought against the corrupt politicians.

A summary report and suggestions from the public hearings on energy policy was also submitted to the NLA president by the monk.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/monk-wants-institute-monitor-politicians/

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-- Thai PBS 2014-11-13

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And one to monitor monks too ?

Independent audits of politicians and the Sangha from a body that has real bite to go with the bark would go a long way to cleaning up this country. I imagine the results would be too horrifying for the nation to cope with.

How right you are !

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And what about a non-religious(!) State institute to monitor the monks' activities, in the Wats and outside, which are not strictly related to the Lord Buddha, and tax levied on the temples' income? Why not have both?

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I think someone monitoring Army Officers would be more appropriate. Not many politicians active in Thailand anymore.

In which army barracks do you live? Not active, hmm, politicians now do what they do best, crawl around in the dark to look for the next best bite, the next victims to bludgeon, like, like, ...the parasites of our species?

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I would not even want to guess when or where corruption started in Thailand nor who set the precedent for this type of behavior, but for any monk to suggest monitoring of any other group in this country, for possible corruption is laughable when you loo0k at the problems the religous order have in controling their own.

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What's needed is more ethical people to fill positions of responsibility in Thailand and in other countries all over the world.

Another institute or committee isn't going to make any difference at all.

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I like it. But how about an institute to monitor crook monks? Seem to be just as many of them getting around these days.

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And one to monitor monks too ?

Great idea! They just need to expand on it a little and include the Monks themselves. There seem to be a large number who are just as bad as any Politician.

And what about a non-religious(!) State institute to monitor the monks' activities, in the Wats and outside, which are not strictly related to the Lord Buddha, and tax levied on the temples' income? Why not have both?

I would not even want to guess when or where corruption started in Thailand nor who set the precedent for this type of behavior, but for any monk to suggest monitoring of any other group in this country, for possible corruption is laughable when you loo0k at the problems the religous order have in controling their own.

He's also proposing that monks and temples be monitored.

Details in The Nation.

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Lawmakers Welcome Activist Monk Buddha Issara's Reform Proposal
By Khaosod English

BANGKOK – Buddha Issara, the Buddhist monk who led anti-government protests that paved way for the military coup in May, was given a VIP welcome by the presidents of Thailand’s legislative and reform councils today.

The 58-year-old firebrand monk arrived at Parliament this morning to submit a proposal to the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) and National Reform Council (NRC), the two bodies appointed by the military junta to pass laws and implement national reforms over the next year.

Buddha Issara was personally welcomed by NLA President Pornpetch Wichitcholchai and NRC Chairman Thianchay Kiranandana, despite the fact that he faces multiple charges related to his role in the sporadically violent protests against the former government earlier this year.

After handing his petition to Pornpetch, Buddha Issara said he would like lawmakers to establish an agency to "monitor and curb the behavior and ethics of all politicians," and amend criminal laws to remove statutes of limitations for corruption charges.

"Every ordinary citizen should be able to file a corruption charge. It shouldn't only be the duty of state agencies," Buddha Issara told reporters. "If there are [corruption] complaints against any politicians, they must be suspended from their duties until there is clarity on the matter."

The monk said the petition also proposes legislation that "prevents rich people from stealing the jobs of poor people," and over 90 other suggestions concerning the country's energy industry.

After receiving the petition, Pornpetch assured Buddha Issara that he will forward the petition to the Constitution Drafting Committee (CDC) and that the NLA will consider the monk's proposals.

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1415868191

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-- Khaosod English 2014-11-13

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I think the caption should read "Monk want an institute to monitor monks"..... say no more...

That is against Precept 3 - impossible.

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Great idea! They just need to expand on it a little and include the Monks themselves. There seem to be a large number who are just as bad as any Politician.

Your statement to monitor monks is based on ----------------------------------- No doubt about it there have been some bad ones. But percentage wise not even in the same ball park as politicans. Also their activities do not cost the tax payers over 600,000,000.000 Baht.

I understand you probably have a disbelief in Religion and Buddhism which is not a religion but more a way of life largely ignored by Farongs as well as Thai's so that is probably your basis for including them in the investigation.

While you are at it why not get scam artists, overcharging merchants, tea money acceptors and the ones who offer it in there also?

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And one to monitor monks too ?

They can start with this guy and the equally fake monk Suthep!!coffee1.gif

Suppose you can fill us in on what the Monk Suthep is doing that is corrupt? I will take it as fact you have some proof of his acts of corruption while being a monk.coffee1.gif

If you do please be specificcheesy.gif

If you don't never mind trying to justify it with non monk activities.cheesy.gif

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An institute should also be setup to audit monks.

Two weeks ago a shaven Isaan guy come back to our village after 3 years to be a monk. He had a girl with him that just became 15 years and a lot of cash and has been drunk for the past 2 weeks.

As his older sister is a friend of our family I confronted him and told him I will call the police if the girl is not gone within one hour. His mother pleaded to him to let the girl go and the next day the girl went back to Lampang,

Their are a lot of sick (snip) monks around our villages. They keep getting fatter and fatter so when my Lassie told me today Monks are not walking tomorrow, I said to her ok lets go and give some alms to the Forrest monks but not so that fat guys.

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A proposition is put forward to help curb corruption and you jokers just jump to "what about the monks". Is it not a good idea? do you not want to see corruption in politics dealt with more critically? make up your minds! and how about reading the full story before having your daily cry.

Can't stand the guy, but I for one think it's a great idea! and then by all means monitor the monks if you feel that is crippling the nation, but starting with politicians sounds like a sensible plan.

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Now Why don't i like you to mind your own business........well i think it has something to do with balls.

A drunk with a minor doesn't makes a match, we all know that.

Standing up and make your point is something communities are to afraid of, so i congratulate you for standing up , show them (community) you have balls,and demanding the girl to be released.

My thoughts however go further then that.....where on earth are her parents, relatives...friends?

I salute you,man, and i mean it!!

An institute should also be setup to audit monks.

Two weeks ago a shaven Isaan guy come back to our village after 3 years to be a monk. He had a girl with him that just became 15 years and a lot of cash and has been drunk for the past 2 weeks.

As his older sister is a friend of our family I confronted him and told him I will call the police if the girl is not gone within one hour. His mother pleaded to him to let the girl go and the next day the girl went back to Lampang,

Their are a lot of sick (snip) monks around our villages. They keep getting fatter and fatter so when my Lassie told me today Monks are not walking tomorrow, I said to her ok lets go and give some alms to the Forrest monks but not so that fat guys.

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Great idea! They just need to expand on it a little and include the Monks themselves. There seem to be a large number who are just as bad as any Politician.

Your statement to monitor monks is based on ----------------------------------- No doubt about it there have been some bad ones. But percentage wise not even in the same ball park as politicans. Also their activities do not cost the tax payers over 600,000,000.000 Baht.

I understand you probably have a disbelief in Religion and Buddhism which is not a religion but more a way of life largely ignored by Farongs as well as Thai's so that is probably your basis for including them in the investigation.

While you are at it why not get scam artists, overcharging merchants, tea money acceptors and the ones who offer it in there also?

So I was correct, according to you Buddhism isn't a religion (at least not in Thailand), thanks for clearing that one up.

My statement was based on all the crap they've pulled over the last decade I've been here in Thailand, it's all in the news ... cars, drugs, whores, rapes, murders, underage pregnancies, private planes and of course the latest and greatest Louis Vuitton handbags or whatever else they are splurging their huge amounts of cash on.

As for where the cash comes from, again you are correct, it's not "taxpayer" money, however it IS money given to them by the public for purposes other than what it seems a large proportion of them actually seem to use it for.

Mind you I've never bought into the concept of buying my way into paradise/heaven/nirvana or however you want to phrase it.

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It is an idea all right but nothing will go anywhere without a credible attempt to curb corruption. No tolerance, harsh penalties and media exposure of those indicted through a fast track legal system set aside for the job. It is that important but there is just NO-ONE at all that has the slightest interest. The Thais are far more interested in themselves and their pathetic anti-social fiefdoms than any interest in improving the nation for all the people.

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Could be a good idea.

But who will monitor this institute?

Come on, why are you asking such nasty questions ? smile.png

all that is needed is a very large institute building with (fake) marble hallways, a support office of assistants and a secretary for every member of the institute, and a large budget for investigations and committees, plus a travel allowance with free first class tickets on Thai airways....

oh, wait...

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