Only one more meeting on Yingluck case, NACC warns

[Lite Beer]

Only one more meeting on Yingluck case, NACC warns
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Anti-corruption agency vows to go ahead despite prosecutors' reluctance

The National Anti-Corruption Commission will unilaterally pursue the case against former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra in connection with her government's rice-pledging scheme if public prosecutors again refuse to take up the case, the NACC chief said yesterday.

NACC president Panthep Klanarongran said the anti-graft agency would most likely hold just one more joint meeting with the Office of the Attorney-General to discuss whether the case could be taken to the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders.

He said that if the OAG again does not think the case merits criminal action, the NACC would act on its own in taking the case to court.

No date has been set for the next - the fourth - meeting between the Office and the NACC. Panthep expected it to be the final one.

He said the anti-graft agency would not interrogate any more people because it believed it had gathered enough information in the case.

Narong Rat-amarit, another NACC member, said the investigation over possible corruption related to the rice-pledging scheme during the Yingluck administration, involving her and four other cabinet members, was 80 per cent complete and the whole process was expected to be completed by early next year.

Narong said the matter was of importance, so it could not be rushed.

"This not like selling Thai black coffee. It is important to be fair to everyone … and importance must be given to those who are being examined."

Asked if people's wealth could be confiscated by the state if these people are found guilty, Narong said everything would be done in accordance with the law.

Two sides to issue

The four other ex-cabinet members whose assets and debts are being scrutinised by the NACC include former deputy prime minister and commerce minister Boonsong Teriyapirom and former acting PM Niwatthamrong Boonsongpaisan.

Meanwhile, former Democrat MP Warong Dechgitvigrom posted a message on his Facebook page yesterday, saying the disclosure by the Finance Ministry regarding the big loss incurred under the Yingluck administration when compared with previous administrations means she cannot refuse to take responsibility.

Warong claimed that the loss could be even higher, as the ministry had ended its calculation on May 22 while some rice stored under the scheme had continued to rot afterwards.

Warong also questioned whether the suicides by 16 farmers and the debt incurred by farmers were being calculated in the loss.

From the opposite camp, former Pheu Thai deputy prime minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul accused the NACC of unfair treatment, saying the anti-graft body had done little to take up the case of alleged irregularities under the Abhisit Vejjajiva and Chuan Leekpai administrations with regard to the scheme to reform financial institutions.

Surapong said more losses were incurred by that scheme and asked why those two were not being impeached.

Kittiratt Na-Ranong, who had been finance minister in the Yingluck government, yesterday rejected on his Facebook page the Finance Ministry's estimate of losses as inaccurate and said the massive loss figure was contrived to discredit Yingluck.

He said the actual loss caused by the Yingluck government should be lower than the figure stated by the ministry. He claimed there was an attempt to include the losses of the governments that preceded the Yingluck administration.

Yingluck's lawyer Pichit Chuenban yesterday said the ministry's calculation also took into account depreciation, which he said should not be used for calculating the value of farm produce.

He said the value of farm produce would be known when it was sold, and that it was unfair to estimate its depreciation in the same way as other goods.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Only-one-more-meeting-on-Yingluck-case-NACC-warns-30247830.html

-- The Nation 2014-11-15

[Robby nz]

That highlights the quality of the ministers the great thinker chose to represent him.

First the well worn "What about the Dems " whine.

Then the minister of white lies whose own ministry came out with much the same numbers when he was in office only for the chair of the committee that had the temerity to tell the truth sacked for her crime.

Then the lawyer wants to wait till all the rice is disposed of till a final number is released.

He doesn't seem to realize that will only make the loss even greater.

[NeverSure]

"Asked if people's wealth could be confiscated by the state if these people are found guilty, Narong said everything would be done in accordance with the law."

There is no law. There is martial law. The coup leader is the law.

Try Thaksin in absentia and confiscate his and Yingluck's assets and pay off the rice losses.

[Thailand]

If the public prosecutors are still refusing to take up the case then there are not too many reasons why.

1) They don't think there is sufficient evidence to make a case. Irrespective of those who consider her guilty until proven innocent.

2) They have been warned off.

3) The public prosecutors consider NACC are on a witch hunt, pardon the pun. And don't want to be involved, future consequences perhaps?

4) ?

[The stuttering parrot]

Posters on TVF cry foul over the prosecutors and police in the Koh Tao investigation and insufficient evidence yet are quite willing to cheer on these bully boy tactics .

Just typical yellow tactics !

Can't win won't win so just take it!

[ChrisY1]

Posters on TVF cry foul over the prosecutors and police in the Koh Tao investigation and insufficient evidence yet are quite willing to cheer on these bully boy tactics .

Just typical yellow tactics !

Can't win won't win so just take it!

Childish post!

[ginjag]

Posters on TVF cry foul over the prosecutors and police in the Koh Tao investigation and insufficient evidence yet are quite willing to cheer on these bully boy tactics .

Just typical yellow tactics !

Can't win won't win so just take it!

Elected in, PM, Defense Minister, Chair person of the rice committee, getting paid also for her work. Totally responsible for the country for 3 years, Amnesty cover up etc. She said "I have done nothing wrong" as the Shins are persecuted for nothing, all politically motivated.

Please do not come back with BS re--the UK couple -murders to divert this saga........May I say it is her that has the YELLOW tactics.

[smedly]

so who exactly is going to be held responsible to the Thai people for almost a trillion baht loss - a parrot ?

This woman was in charge - is she denying that ?

Her and the first line cabinet and who ever else was involved need to go to the monkey house - end of

[Robespiere]

A couple of absurdities:

1. This not like selling Thai black coffee. It is important to be fair to everyone …

2. ...everything would be done in accordance with the law.

And a little bit of common sense:

1. the anti-graft body had done little to take up the case of alleged irregularities under the Abhisit Vejjajiva and Chuan Leekpai administrations with regard to the scheme to reform financial institutions. Surapong said more losses were incurred by that scheme and asked why those two were not being impeached.

[Thailand]

so who exactly is going to be held responsible to the Thai people for almost a trillion baht loss - a parrot ?

This woman was in charge - is she denying that ?

Her and the first line cabinet and who ever else was involved need to go to the monkey house - end of

So guilty then?

Sort of justice you would consider to be suitable if you were under investigation?

[ramrod711]

If the public prosecutors are still refusing to take up the case then there are not too many reasons why.

1) They don't think there is sufficient evidence to make a case. Irrespective of those who consider her guilty until proven innocent.

2) They have been warned off.

3) The public prosecutors consider NACC are on a witch hunt, pardon the pun. And don't want to be involved, future consequences perhaps?

4) ?

4) They have been bought off?

[CNXTim]

She made the undeliverable promise as part of the election grab, It is patently obvious there is at least one person who most certainly should be held accountable and liable.

Victims - voters, Rice Farmers and the rest of Thailand

Perp = YS +++

[metisdead]

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[Nickymaster]

Posters on TVF cry foul over the prosecutors and police in the Koh Tao investigation and insufficient evidence yet are quite willing to cheer on these bully boy tactics .

Just typical yellow tactics !

Can't win won't win so just take it!

Your darling Yingluck screwed up big time. Just stop crying man. I am really getting tired of your red tactics.

[klauskunkel]

Kittiratt Na-Ranong, who had been finance minister in the Yingluck government, yesterday rejected on his Facebook page the Finance Ministry's estimate of losses as inaccurate and said the massive loss figure was contrived to discredit Yingluck.

...so says the Master Contriver himself...must be a lie, then or something like that...let's move the issue to the Obfuscating Department one more time before it finally lands in the hand of the Big Bully Boy...

[EnglishJohn]

Posters on TVF cry foul over the prosecutors and police in the Koh Tao investigation and insufficient evidence yet are quite willing to cheer on these bully boy tactics .

Just typical yellow tactics !

Can't win won't win so just take it!

Opinion Of Red Shirts = Opinion Of Red Shirts - 1

You would help your cause more by keeping quiet. Don't you have homework to do or didn't you start school yet ?.

[Nickymaster]

Despite being chairperson of the rice committee, Yingluck admitted in the 2013 Censure debate against her government that she had never attended meetings of the National Rice Policy Committee.

[ginjag]

Despite being chairperson of the rice committee, Yingluck admitted in the 2013 Censure debate against her government that she had never attended meetings of the National Rice Policy Committee.

Just wondering if and when the private jet ordered for her to get away, she would say I am unable to attend ???

Similar to that night time she could not attend a vital meeting because the helicopter did not have night vision

[RustBucket]

Surapong said more losses were incurred by that scheme and asked why those two were not being impeached.

Is this guy sniffing glue or what?

Those other schemes were subsidy programmes, and are designed to cost money and 163 Bn over a seven and a half year period is quite acceptable as a subsidy scheme for such a huge industry. that is about 21.7 Bn a year.... Then Thaksin Yingluck turned up and racked up losses of 518 Bn in just two and a half years. That's 207 Bn a year.... Ten times the cost of other governments.

Who introduced the policy?.... Yingluck government.

Who was in charge of the country?.... Yingluck Government.

Who made themselves chairman of the rice policy commission?.... Yingluck

Who is immediately responsible for the Yingluck government?..... Yingluck.

So Surapong... You are not the only one who wants justice for Yingluck, we all do.. If justice is actually done for the first time ever in this kingdom, then expect Yingluck to be swinging from a lamp post.

I wish this was Colombia, she would have been executed along with all her cronies before the end of last May.

[ianf]

Posters on TVF cry foul over the prosecutors and police in the Koh Tao investigation and insufficient evidence yet are quite willing to cheer on these bully boy tactics .

Just typical yellow tactics !

Can't win won't win so just take it!

The stuttering parrot is well known as an ideological supporter of Mr Thaksin and his girls/boys and therefore must be treated with some skepticism. Ideology should not be used here to form an opinion. It is apparent to all that the whole rice scheme in itself was a corrupt scam which hinged on Thaksin's idea of removing Thai rice from the world market, watch the price of rice double and then reinsert Thai rice at a higher price. If this scheme had worked then:

1. There would have been no loss, only profit*

&

2. Poor people would end up paying a lot more for their basic food and perhaps the scheme, had it worked, may even caused hunger in certain places.

*What would have happened to this profit? Sadly, the people connected to the mills, usually politicians or local people of 'influence', used this as an opportunity to make substantial amounts of cash which appears or may have been part of the raison d'etre behind the scheme. Some of this cash may well have found itself into the already full pockets of the wealthy but the indications are that the backstop was to use some of the cash to fund the red underground political movement. The authorities know all this stuff hence the drive to prosecute those in charge of this scam.

[Baerboxer]

The OAG seem determined to keep themselves out of any case that might cause conflict, controversy, or involve them in growing a pair of balls.

Justice - obviously low on their motivation. More concerned with a nice easy comfortable life, whoever might be in power.

[Bakseeda]

Posters on TVF cry foul over the prosecutors and police in the Koh Tao investigation and insufficient evidence yet are quite willing to cheer on these bully boy tactics .

Just typical yellow tactics !

Can't win won't win so just take it!

Not the slightest similarity between the murders in Koh Tao and the theft of 700billion bahts from the taxpayers moneys. Yinluck was in charge of the rice pledging scheme, the taxpayers moneys went missing during her watch. She was repeatedly warned what was going on and she just allowed it to run. 700 billion bahts is a lot of moneys.. it made a lot of politicians much more wealthy than before.... For Gods sake 1billion baht is a lot of money... does anyone have an idea just how much 700billion is... Stolen and missing from the Thai taxpayer... Someone has to pay and she was the Boss... The Boss of the biggest scam in Thai political history. Plus the multiple suicides of those poor farmers who got scammed also... The Thai peoples should be screaming for her blood... And as for you Stuttering Parrot... you have not got a clue, Do you know that the world is round ?

[metisdead]

Just a reminder that posts using derogatory nicknames or intentional misspelling of people’s names will be removed. If you don’t want your post to be removed, spell people’s names correctly.

[Phatcharanan]

Posters on TVF cry foul over the prosecutors and police in the Koh Tao investigation and insufficient evidence yet are quite willing to cheer on these bully boy tactics .

Just typical yellow tactics !

B . b . b. b but w.w.w.w.what..whatever

[than]

If the public prosecutors are still refusing to take up the case then there are not too many reasons why.

1) They don't think there is sufficient evidence to make a case. Irrespective of those who consider her guilty until proven innocent.

2) They have been warned off.

3) The public prosecutors consider NACC are on a witch hunt, pardon the pun. And don't want to be involved, future consequences perhaps?

4) ?

Or 5) prosecutor receive thread from certain people

Remind UDD speak

[jesimps]

Despite being chairperson of the rice committee, Yingluck admitted in the 2013 Censure debate against her government that she had never attended meetings of the National Rice Policy Committee.

Just wondering if and when the private jet ordered for her to get away, she would say I am unable to attend ???

Similar to that night time she could not attend a vital meeting because the helicopter did not have night vision

She's not going anywhere, Yingy's gonna stay an kick your yellow @r$e$.

[55Jay]

These guys are duking it out on Facebook.

[ianf]

Despite being chairperson of the rice committee, Yingluck admitted in the 2013 Censure debate against her government that she had never attended meetings of the National Rice Policy Committee.

Just wondering if and when the private jet ordered for her to get away, she would say I am unable to attend ???

Similar to that night time she could not attend a vital meeting because the helicopter did not have night vision

She's not going anywhere, Yingy's gonna stay an kick your yellow @r$e$.

These kind of posts add nothing to the discussion. What they do is reinforce prejudice. For people who understand the politics here in Thailand, as well as the social and cultural attitudes which allow these type of politics to flourish, reducing the whole issue to a "kick ar$e$' statement only reinforces the divisions. Far better to try and understand the issues and then make an appropriate comment (if you feel a need to post!).

[GeckosDiving]

Posters on TVF cry foul over the prosecutors and police in the Koh Tao investigation and insufficient evidence yet are quite willing to cheer on these bully boy tactics .

Just typical yellow tactics !

Can't win won't win so just take it!

And the Dumb Ass Post go's too !!