Yingluck impeachment vote on December 25

[Lite Beer]

RICE-PLEDGING SCHEME
Yingluck impeachment vote on December 25
The Sunday Nation

BANGKOK: -- The National Legislative Assembly is scheduled to convene on December 25 to decide whether to impeach former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra in connection with her government's rice-pledging scheme.

The NLA is expected to debate the issue and vote within three days of convening.

Support from at least three-fifths of the body's members, or 132 votes, is required to impeach the ex-premier. The vote will be done in a secret ballot.

The assembly will convene on December 11 to hear the opening statements from both Yingluck and the National Anti-Corruption Commission, with the closing statements to be heard on December 23, according to the NLA meeting schedule released yesterday.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Yingluck-impeachment-vote-on-December-25-30247866.html

-- The Nation 2014-11-16

[DaffyDuck]

Impeaching? Doesn't she have to actually be on the job for that?

[BSJ]

Seriously, when do charges for misdeeds of a major proportion need to be voted on??? Take Nikes advice: Just do it!

[Robby nz]

Impeaching? Doesn't she have to actually be on the job for that?

No, this is about preventing her or anyone else for that matter from getting in the position where they can do the same again whether it be negligence as she is charged with, corruption or outright theft.

Does someone who has been caught with their hand in the till of a company still have to be employed by the company before they can be held responsible ?

So why should it be any different for a politician ?

I tell you it shouldn't, in fact there should be even higher standards for politicians who are supposed to be role models.

Stress 'supposed to be' but how many of the previous Govt's line up would you chose as roll models for your kids ?

[ukrules]

What exactly does impeachment mean in this case ? Does it mean there will be criminal charges or that she's banned from being an MP or something else ?

[The stuttering parrot]

Yingluck might get a nice Xmas present in the form of her case being thrown out through lack of evidence,

I doubt it though with her being targeted, secret ballots and a lot of attitude adjustments going around it's an uphill battle.

Anyway she can take solace in the fact that she's still hugely popular and the people won't forget what's going here and the backlash at the polls will decimate the yellow dems even if she's not at the helm where she should be.

[whybother]

Seriously, when do charges for misdeeds of a major proportion need to be voted on??? Take Nikes advice: Just do it!

Isn't that what a jury does?

[whybother]

Yingluck might get a nice Xmas present in the form of her case being thrown out through lack of evidence,

I doubt it though with her being targeted, secret ballots and a lot of attitude adjustments going around it's an uphill battle.

Anyway she can take solace in the fact that she's still hugely popular and the people won't forget what's going here and the backlash at the polls will decimate the yellow dems even if she's not at the helm where she should be.

A backlash at the polls ... so the NLA won't get re-elected??

[whybother]

What exactly does impeachment mean in this case ? Does it mean there will be criminal charges or that she's banned from being an MP or something else ?

She would be banned from politics for 5 years and possibly criminal charges.

[Bluespunk]

Merry Christmas everyone.

Wonder what will be in everyone's xmas stocking this year?

Bet it won't have a receipt.

[recycled]

Yingluck might get a nice Xmas present in the form of her case being thrown out through lack of evidence,

I doubt it though with her being targeted, secret ballots and a lot of attitude adjustments going around it's an uphill battle.

Anyway she can take solace in the fact that she's still hugely popular and the people won't forget what's going here and the backlash at the polls will decimate the yellow dems even if she's not at the helm where she should be.

Dream on! Firstly, there is not going to be any polls for a long long time and secondly, when and if an election is held, I doubt if the reds could muster enough support to stand candidates.

[whybother]

Yingluck might get a nice Xmas present in the form of her case being thrown out through lack of evidence,

I doubt it though with her being targeted, secret ballots and a lot of attitude adjustments going around it's an uphill battle.

Anyway she can take solace in the fact that she's still hugely popular and the people won't forget what's going here and the backlash at the polls will decimate the yellow dems even if she's not at the helm where she should be.

Dream on! Firstly, there is not going to be any polls for a long long time and secondly, when and if an election is held, I doubt if the reds could muster enough support to stand candidates.

There will be elections in 2016, and PTP will probably get the most votes but won't win a majority of seats.

[recycled]

Yingluck might get a nice Xmas present in the form of her case being thrown out through lack of evidence,

I doubt it though with her being targeted, secret ballots and a lot of attitude adjustments going around it's an uphill battle.

Anyway she can take solace in the fact that she's still hugely popular and the people won't forget what's going here and the backlash at the polls will decimate the yellow dems even if she's not at the helm where she should be.

Dream on! Firstly, there is not going to be any polls for a long long time and secondly, when and if an election is held, I doubt if the reds could muster enough support to stand candidates.

There will be elections in 2016, and PTP will probably get the most votes but won't win a majority of seats.

You must be visiting the same Burmese mystic as Thaksin or is it The General/PM's fortune teller? Some crystal ball they must have.

[Chris Lawrence]

So what do you get charged with for not allowing freedom of the press? or interfering in pending serious criminal charges? Or nepotism?

The fact of the matter is that rice schemes in the past have all lost money; But Ms Y lost the most. It would be interesting to see what the defence is?

I wonder if there is a poll in the offering on what should happen?

The press can only print positive on the case, and cannot report on anyone that has an opinion other than the Government view.

And doesn't her lawyer usually leave bags of money lying around the court rooms? Or was that a one off?

[whybother]

Dream on! Firstly, there is not going to be any polls for a long long time and secondly, when and if an election is held, I doubt if the reds could muster enough support to stand candidates.

There will be elections in 2016, and PTP will probably get the most votes but won't win a majority of seats.

You must be visiting the same Burmese mystic as Thaksin or is it The General/PM's fortune teller? Some crystal ball they must have.

No, just a different Burmese mystic than you're visiting.

[AGareth2]

Happy Christmas

[kriswillems]

What a big show.

- voting for something that is a fact already.

- voting.... while Thai people will not get the chance to vote.

- voting by the NLA which nobody ever voted for.

Who cares? Why do they do this?

Do they believe anyone will care about this? - I mean, everyone can see it's totally absurd....

Edited November 16, 2014 by kriswillems

[ukrules]

What exactly does impeachment mean in this case ? Does it mean there will be criminal charges or that she's banned from being an MP or something else ?

She would be banned from politics for 5 years and possibly criminal charges.

There in lies the answer - the 5 year ban - that's what they want.

[kingalfred]

Yingluck might get a nice Xmas present in the form of her case being thrown out through lack of evidence,

I doubt it though with her being targeted, secret ballots and a lot of attitude adjustments going around it's an uphill battle.

Anyway she can take solace in the fact that she's still hugely popular and the people won't forget what's going here and the backlash at the polls will decimate the yellow dems even if she's not at the helm where she should be.

keeping stuttering away!

[Chris Lawrence]

Yingluck might get a nice Xmas present in the form of her case being thrown out through lack of evidence,

I doubt it though with her being targeted, secret ballots and a lot of attitude adjustments going around it's an uphill battle.

Anyway she can take solace in the fact that she's still hugely popular and the people won't forget what's going here and the backlash at the polls will decimate the yellow dems even if she's not at the helm where she should be.

Dream on! Firstly, there is not going to be any polls for a long long time and secondly, when and if an election is held, I doubt if the reds could muster enough support to stand candidates.

There will be elections in 2016, and PTP will probably get the most votes but won't win a majority of seats.

Aren't they re-writing the constitution to reflect that only the more qualified, better educated, lots more money, Bangkok located, elite type quality, who have sat on major Thai boards type of people can only get a vote in Parliament. Heaven forbid these water buffalo types from the country cannot make decisions on the way the country is managed as they are not superior enough?

That’s what I thought they were aiming for.

Or they create more seats in the Bangkok area and give the country areas a handful of seats?

They should also get a poll going to say that 98% of people would be in favour of such changes.

[recycled]

Dream on! Firstly, there is not going to be any polls for a long long time and secondly, when and if an election is held, I doubt if the reds could muster enough support to stand candidates.

There will be elections in 2016, and PTP will probably get the most votes but won't win a majority of seats.

You must be visiting the same Burmese mystic as Thaksin or is it The General/PM's fortune teller? Some crystal ball they must have.

No, just a different Burmese mystic than you're visiting.

What a ridiculous statement you silly little man. Take you trolling elsewhere.

[kingalfred]

What a big show.

- voting for something that is a fact already.

- voting.... while Thai people will not get the chance to vote.

- voting by the NLA which nobody ever voted for.

Who cares? Why do they do this?

Do they believe anyone will care about this? - I mean, everyone can see it's totally absurd....

the country has to learn, especially the " clever thais" up north, that they cant elect corrupt criminals just because "they are there and want to" Edited November 16, 2014 by kingalfred

[whybother]

There in lies the answer - the 5 year ban - that's what they want.

Take her out of the picture and that would be a big dent in the PTP hopes for a good election result. They would probably still get the most votes / seats, but not as many as the last election.

[whybother]

What a ridiculous statement you silly little man. Take you trolling elsewhere.

Let's see: "There's not going to be any polls for a long long time" and "you must be visiting the same mystic as Thaksin"

Who's trolling?

[kingalfred]

Yingluck might get a nice Xmas present in the form of her case being thrown out through lack of evidence,

I doubt it though with her being targeted, secret ballots and a lot of attitude adjustments going around it's an uphill battle.

Anyway she can take solace in the fact that she's still hugely popular and the people won't forget what's going here and the backlash at the polls will decimate the yellow dems even if she's not at the helm where she should be.

Dream on! Firstly, there is not going to be any polls for a long long time and secondly, when and if an election is held, I doubt if the reds could muster enough support to stand candidates.

There will be elections in 2016, and PTP will probably get the most votes but won't win a majority of seats.

Aren't they re-writing the constitution to reflect that only the more qualified, better educated, lots more money, Bangkok located, elite type quality, who have sat on major Thai boards type of people can only get a vote in Parliament. Heaven forbid these water buffalo types from the country cannot make decisions on the way the country is managed as they are not superior enough?

That’s what I thought they were aiming for.

Or they create more seats in the Bangkok area and give the country areas a handful of seats?

They should also get a poll going to say that 98% of people would be in favour of such changes.

"buffalo types making decisions" yep you got it. Sheer incompetence economic and corrupt mismanagement of the country, costing it thousands of billions of baht

[Arkady]

What exactly does impeachment mean in this case ? Does it mean there will be criminal charges or that she's banned from being an MP or something else ?

Means she would be banned from politics for 5 years. The criminal prosecution is a separate matter which is currently bogged down with the attorney-general declining to take the case prepared by the NACC. The latter could prosecute by itself but that could involve a considerable delay and a lower chance of success. No one has yet suggested s civil case to recover the losses, as happened (unsuccessfully) in the case of the central bank governor who presided over massive losses in the futile defence of the baht in1997.

The concept of impeachment in Thailand differs from many other countries because of the political bans that can be imposed. That is why cases can be heard after the defendant has left office. There have been very few, if any, successful impeachments due to the supermajority required in the Senate. With a straight eviction from office and no political ban, many could be back in office the next day. After Samak was removed from office by the Constitutional Court he could have been reinstated by parliament immediately but Thaksin had had enough of him.

[whybother]

Aren't they re-writing the constitution to reflect that only the more qualified, better educated, lots more money, Bangkok located, elite type quality, who have sat on major Thai boards type of people can only get a vote in Parliament. Heaven forbid these water buffalo types from the country cannot make decisions on the way the country is managed as they are not superior enough?

That’s what I thought they were aiming for.

Or they create more seats in the Bangkok area and give the country areas a handful of seats?

They should also get a poll going to say that 98% of people would be in favour of such changes.

"Aren't they re-writing the constitution to reflect that only the more qualified, better educated, lots more money, Bangkok located, elite type quality, who have sat on major Thai boards type of people can only get a vote in Parliament."

No.

[jdinasia]

What a big show.

- voting for something that is a fact already.

- voting.... while Thai people will not get the chance to vote.

- voting by the NLA which nobody ever voted for.

Who cares? Why do they do this?

Do they believe anyone will care about this? - I mean, everyone can see it's totally absurd....

Who cares? A huge number of Thai people.

Why? 5 year ban.

There remains potential criminal charges which would result in a lifetime ban if found guilty.

[RustBucket]

What exactly does impeachment mean in this case ? Does it mean there will be criminal charges or that she's banned from being an MP or something else ?

She would be banned from politics for 5 years and possibly criminal charges.

She will be given the ban, but it really ought to be for life, this Thai style of politics is totally laughable. It would allow someone to have been banned multiple times can still be a PM.

The criminal charges will not need to come from impeachment though, these charges can be actually implemented immediately. The NACC can petition the Supreme Court for Political Office Holders whenever they feel they have a case. But the NACC seem to be holding this back in reserve as an ace up their sleeve.

They have already threatened to invoke this if the NLA do not proceed with the impeachment vote.

Unfortunaltely since I have become aware that there are a bunch of Thaksin supporters on the NLA, I doubt very much that they will get the three fifths of the vote.... Looks like Thaksin has managed to infiltrate the entire system, and I would be very interested to know exactly how much influence he has managed to put into it.

So I can see it is going to be business as usual in Thai politics as from next year onwards.

I just hope Thaksin has no influence in the Supreme Courts. Because Yingluck and many others should really be looking at 20 years inside for this.

[Chris Lawrence]

Aren't they re-writing the constitution to reflect that only the more qualified, better educated, lots more money, Bangkok located, elite type quality, who have sat on major Thai boards type of people can only get a vote in Parliament. Heaven forbid these water buffalo types from the country cannot make decisions on the way the country is managed as they are not superior enough?

That’s what I thought they were aiming for.

Or they create more seats in the Bangkok area and give the country areas a handful of seats?

They should also get a poll going to say that 98% of people would be in favour of such changes.

"Aren't they re-writing the constitution to reflect that only the more qualified, better educated, lots more money, Bangkok located, elite type quality, who have sat on major Thai boards type of people can only get a vote in Parliament."

No.

Where are you getting your mail from, Whybother?