Triumph bikes in Thailand

[DILLIGAD]

A thai biker friend was telling me that a few of his Triumph owning friends have heard a strong rumour that the price of the retro range is to greatly reduced (to 400,000 odd!)

Clearly they are far from happy as they paid 750k+ for T100/Bonnie/Thruxton/Scrambler.

Anyone heard anything??????

[justcruisin]

Yes Ive heard that as well. if true that Triumph have obtained BOI approval from the Thai goverment it would greatly reduce the prices but up till now that's all it is, an unsubstantiated rumour.

Keeping my fingers crossed, I really like the new Tiger XC!

[JonnyF]

Hope so, don't see how they can compete with the likes of the Ducati Scrambler otherwise.

Be good if the Street Triple came down to those prices as well Maybe towards the MT-09 price to give that some competition...

[bramds]

Saw something similar on the Facebook page of K-Speed.

[ll2]

that sounds nice!

Always prefer a Bonnie or Thruxton instead of a Scrambler.

had plans of buying Royal Enfield Bullet but they could not open the dealer and cant sell them here again as before so could not:(

It might be a good option for my classic bike needs as it has a lot of grunt as well unlike Enfield.

As jonny, i expect the same for street triple. go on Triumph!

Moto expo at the end of November at Impact Arena makes me excited!

Note: Checked now and it is confirmed!

Edited November 18, 2014 by ll2

[phuketrichard]

i love my 1970 T100 C :-)

great for the roads here in Phuket

[OmegaRacer]

Wow, that's quite some news.

Would hate to be one of the guys who just bought one for almost 800k...

[guzzi850m2]

Wow, that's quite some news.

Would hate to be one of the guys who just bought one for almost 800k...

Agreed, but I never understod why those guys paid so much in the first place unless you are swimming in money.

Gold can be bought at too high prices and then it's better to just walk away.

I heard that the dealer for Thailand kept those high prices because he wanted Triumph bikes to be a luxery item for the selected few.

Perhaps Triumph UK have pulled the plug on this guy as Ducati did, and just see how well Ducati Thailand are doing now.

Are the Tiger 800 made here?

[BKKBike09]

The BritBike FB page includes a comment from BritBike saying that the price of the Thruxton will be 'no more than 500,000' and that the official price will be announced at Motor Expo end of this month. Here's hoping same applies to Street Triple R ...

Britbike Triumph ไม่เกิน 5 แสนครับ ส่วนราคาอย่างเป็นทางการจะออกปลายเดือนนี้ครับ ในงาน Motor Expo ครับ

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[biker Bob]

Wow, that's quite some news.

Would hate to be one of the guys who just bought one for almost 800k...

Agreed, but I never understod why those guys paid so much in the first place unless you are swimming in money.

Gold can be bought at too high prices and then it's better to just walk away.

I heard that the dealer for Thailand kept those high prices because he wanted Triumph bikes to be a luxery item for the selected few.

Perhaps Triumph UK have pulled the plug on this guy as Ducati did, and just see how well Ducati Thailand are doing now.

Are the Tiger 800 made here?

Well said.

[mikebike]

I heard that the dealer for Thailand kept those high prices because he wanted Triumph bikes to be a luxery item for the selected few.

Perhaps Triumph UK have pulled the plug on this guy as Ducati did, and just see how well Ducati Thailand are doing now.

This has nothing to do with artificially inflated prices and everything to do with taxation.

[JonnyF]

I heard that the dealer for Thailand kept those high prices because he wanted Triumph bikes to be a luxery item for the selected few.

Perhaps Triumph UK have pulled the plug on this guy as Ducati did, and just see how well Ducati Thailand are doing now.

This has nothing to do with artificially inflated prices and everything to do with taxation.

It's to do with both. Unless Yamaha are selling the MT-09 at a loss.

[pokerkid]

I heard that the dealer for Thailand kept those high prices because he wanted Triumph bikes to be a luxery item for the selected few.

Perhaps Triumph UK have pulled the plug on this guy as Ducati did, and just see how well Ducati Thailand are doing now.

This has nothing to do with artificially inflated prices and everything to do with taxation.

no, KTM is pulling the same stunt

[mikebike]

I heard that the dealer for Thailand kept those high prices because he wanted Triumph bikes to be a luxery item for the selected few.

Perhaps Triumph UK have pulled the plug on this guy as Ducati did, and just see how well Ducati Thailand are doing now.

This has nothing to do with artificially inflated prices and everything to do with taxation.

no, KTM is pulling the same stunt

Are KTMs manufactured here? If so, i did not know that...

[mikebike]

It's to do with both. Unless Yamaha are selling the MT-09 at a loss.

Kind of apples and oranges, but what IS the list price of MT-09 in Thailand?

[BKKBike09]

^ 435,000

[In Search of Space]

I heard that the dealer for Thailand kept those high prices because he wanted Triumph bikes to be a luxery item for the selected few.

Perhaps Triumph UK have pulled the plug on this guy as Ducati did, and just see how well Ducati Thailand are doing now.

This has nothing to do with artificially inflated prices and everything to do with taxation.

no, KTM is pulling the same stunt

Are KTMs manufactured here? If so, i did not know that...

I believe thatthe KTM's sold in Thailand are made in India, import tax is reduced as there is a trade agreement between the two countries

[mercman24]

where is the impact arena guys i need to get my fix soon, anyone going to a world superbikes next march

[Briggsy]

where is the impact arena guys i need to get my fix soon, anyone going to a world superbikes next march

Meuang Thong Thani, just north of Bangkok.

[mercman24]

thanks for that, missing my FIREBLADE ha ha

[pb1936]

Some time back, I was interested in the Bonnie 100, until I saw the price ! Triumph UK advised me that they have two factories near BKK, equipped to the same standard as UK and that their bikes made there are equal to the UK product. However, the official prices in Thailand were the same as imported machines !!

So, this seems to have been the Thai way of saying Thankyou to Triumph for building factories here / training a skilled workforce / employing a large number of Thais / etc., by slapping on taxes equal to an import - disgraceful.

Much hoping that the rumored price deduction is for real

[Briggsy]

Some time back, I was interested in the Bonnie 100, until I saw the price ! Triumph UK advised me that they have two factories near BKK, equipped to the same standard as UK and that their bikes made there are equal to the UK product. However, the official prices in Thailand were the same as imported machines !!

So, this seems to have been the Thai way of saying Thankyou to Triumph for building factories here / training a skilled workforce / employing a large number of Thais / etc., by slapping on taxes equal to an import - disgraceful.

Much hoping that the rumored price deduction is for real

You misunderstand.

Triumph have factories here due to low cost. Part of that low cost is BOI export zone privileges. That is a lot of tax breaks provided everything produced is for export. If they had wanted to enter the domestic market as a domestic manufacturer, the whole set up would have been very different, without the tax breaks.

So you see, you do misunderstand, the thank you from the Thais was in the way of tax breaks for setting up an export industry.

So any bikes currently sold here are correctly subject to the various import duties.

p.s. I think the Triumph factories here are just for parts and the assembly is done elsewhere. Not 100% on this.

[Albertnobgammer]

I heard that the dealer for Thailand kept those high prices because he wanted Triumph bikes to be a luxery item for the selected few.

Perhaps Triumph UK have pulled the plug on this guy as Ducati did, and just see how well Ducati Thailand are doing now.

This has nothing to do with artificially inflated prices and everything to do with taxation.

no, KTM is pulling the same stunt

Are KTMs manufactured here? If so, i did not know that...

I cannot be sure but I thought KTM were actually manufacturing here. Why anyone would spend 800K on a Triumph amazes me, again the same and more spent on Harleys, they are shit compared to any mainstream Japanese bike. You may as well spend 50K on a Platinum or similar Chinese piece of scrap and keep the rest in the bank to replace all the bits that fall off over the first few months. Give me Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha any day. If it wasn't for the Japanese the British bikes and the old Harleys would still essentially be a design from 1950 like an old BSA or a Pile of Plates, side valve pushrod pieces of junk that wouldn't get you to and from the local market without breaking down 5 times on the journey. Harley, Triumph and Norton needed a sidecar to carry all the necessary spares to repair them on a 50 mile trip.

Edited November 19, 2014 by Albertnobgammer

[Lokie]

I cannot be sure but I thought KTM were actually manufacturing here. Why anyone would spend 800K on a Triumph amazes me, again the same and more spent on Harleys, they are shit compared to any mainstream Japanese bike. You may as well spend 50K on a Platinum or similar Chinese piece of scrap and keep the rest in the bank to replace all the bits that fall off over the first few months. Give me Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha any day. If it wasn't for the Japanese the British bikes and the old Harleys would still essentially be a design from 1950 like an old BSA or a Pile of Plates, side valve pushrod pieces of junk that wouldn't get you to and from the local market without breaking down 5 times on the journey. Harley, Triumph and Norton needed a sidecar to carry all the necessary spares to repair them on a 50 mile trip.

Stop talking out of your ar$e!

Bikes are individual to everyone, what is good for one may not be good for another person. Comparing Jap bikes with Triumphs, Harley's or Dukes is like comparing apples and pears. I'v had bikes all my life from being a nipper and owned all sorts, a 10 years ago I was riding a Suzuki K3 Thou in UK and loved it when they first came out - Totally mental bike and a Rocket ship, great whip around the dales on a Sunday blast. But fast forward a few years and I got a VFR 800 as always fancied one (reputedly one of the best all round bikes ever made - pre V-Tec Fi model) yep was good and all that, could do a bit of everything but I ended up losing my Mo-Jo and got board and thought about giving bikes up, then one day went for a blat on a Triumph T100 Bonneville, came back from the run with a Smile from ear to ear. Bought one brand new October 2013 in UK paid £7200, absolutely love it and my mojo is back big time.

See is not a speed thing or what ever, is all about what you want out of a bike, so have your opinion mate, everyone is entitled to that but don't talk $hite about a bike you obviously know FA about.

You guys prob know far better than me the Bonnies are assembled here in LOS (all parts shipped over) Got to say I still impressed with mine and the quality bar the handle bar controls are just basic Jap fair. So as they are assembled in Thai factory is that why the possible reduction in price?

[ktm jeff]

I believe , no KTM,s are made in Thailand. The KTM Duke 125 , 200 and 390 are made AND assembeled in India and recieve some tax break through the import aggrements. I dont know how much . All other KTM,s are made ( using components from Brembo , White Power etc ) in Austria , and are taxed heavily upon import into Thailand. I wait , with great hope , to see what happens once this "Asean aggrement" starts to come more on-line next year. I think a few companies will start to have their prices looked at , and questioned , by potential buyers then ! .

[Albertnobgammer]

I cannot be sure but I thought KTM were actually manufacturing here. Why anyone would spend 800K on a Triumph amazes me, again the same and more spent on Harleys, they are shit compared to any mainstream Japanese bike. You may as well spend 50K on a Platinum or similar Chinese piece of scrap and keep the rest in the bank to replace all the bits that fall off over the first few months. Give me Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha any day. If it wasn't for the Japanese the British bikes and the old Harleys would still essentially be a design from 1950 like an old BSA or a Pile of Plates, side valve pushrod pieces of junk that wouldn't get you to and from the local market without breaking down 5 times on the journey. Harley, Triumph and Norton needed a sidecar to carry all the necessary spares to repair them on a 50 mile trip.

Stop talking out of your ar$e!

Bikes are individual to everyone, what is good for one may not be good for another person. Comparing Jap bikes with Triumphs, Harley's or Dukes is like comparing apples and pears. I'v had bikes all my life from being a nipper and owned all sorts, a 10 years ago I was riding a Suzuki K3 Thou in UK and loved it when they first came out - Totally mental bike and a Rocket ship, great whip around the dales on a Sunday blast. But fast forward a few years and I got a VFR 800 as always fancied one (reputedly one of the best all round bikes ever made - pre V-Tec Fi model) yep was good and all that, could do a bit of everything but I ended up losing my Mo-Jo and got board and thought about giving bikes up, then one day went for a blat on a Triumph T100 Bonneville, came back from the run with a Smile from ear to ear. Bought one brand new October 2013 in UK paid £7200, absolutely love it and my mojo is back big time.

See is not a speed thing or what ever, is all about what you want out of a bike, so have your opinion mate, everyone is entitled to that but don't talk $hite about a bike you obviously know FA about.

You guys prob know far better than me the Bonnies are assembled here in LOS (all parts shipped over) Got to say I still impressed with mine and the quality bar the handle bar controls are just basic Jap fair. So as they are assembled in Thai factory is that why the possible reduction in price?

Well. 30 years ago we were riding Suzuki 280 GSX, Honda CB500 shaft drives blah blah blah...30 years ago not ten! When I was 5 I was on a BSA 500, when I was ten we had a sidecar. You are obviously too young to see the kind of junk that was turned out by Norton, (Commando) BSA, JAL Pile of Plates, back in those days, so don't try and argue about something you never experienced, Back in the early 70's British Bikes and Harleys were shit! It took the Japs to wake them up.

Unfortunately my arse has no vocal chords unlike yours so I am unable to converse in your anal language. Indeed comparing Harleys and Triumphs with Honda, BMW, Kawasaki and Yamaha is indeed like apples and pears, it is like comparing 1950's crap with modern technology. Do you for one minute think you would have fuel injection, O2 sensors and the level of technology we have now if we waited for British bike manufacturers? We would still have the same old shit they sold us in the '60's, Harley Davidson still sells overpriced JUNK to idiots that think they are buying a real bike. The only reason we have decent bikes today are because of the Japs, same as the cars, you would still be driving round in some piece of shit from British Leyland and BLMC if it wasn't for Japs, the cars/bikes in the US are even worse, emission complying junk.

A British vehicle could never get you from A to B without a major service on the road, they were just complete shit! Harley rested on their name and delivered shit, Ducati are a bunch of faggot specialists, their shit bikes will die after 30Km in Thailand. Like most Itie shit, built for looks never for endurance. Stick with the Jap bikes, they are number one for performance.

BSA were still trying to flog their bikes in 1970+ along with Norton that were based on the same SHIT designs that were being produced in 1950, CRAP BIKES, CRAP Technology, CRAP outdated design. Harley was the same only more bits fell off their crap bikes. That was why they nearly went bust... they shipped shit!

And when I started on Bikes a Bonneville was a throwback to the 18th century, people were buying riding and dying on the new Kawasaki Z1R, that machine took a few of my mates out, but compared with a Bonneville, it left the Bonny standing. a thumper, not a fast bike. (no speed is not everything - take the Yamaha RD 200 a small bike with a bit of get up and go, the Norton Commando 750 was like a slug compared to this! The Yamaha 50 FSIE in the 1980's would leave any of your "Big Bikes" Standing from a standing start, and they had pedals!

Edited November 19, 2014 by Albertnobgammer

[OmegaRacer]

Mate, I suggest you take a chill pill and if you want to ramble on about what a 'real bike' is and what isn't, please open a new thread so that we can go on discussing bikes in a civilized manner.

[Condorman]

Wow, that's quite some news.

Would hate to be one of the guys who just bought one for almost 800k...

Agreed, but I never understod why those guys paid so much in the first place unless you are swimming in money.

Gold can be bought at too high prices and then it's better to just walk away.

I heard that the dealer for Thailand kept those high prices because he wanted Triumph bikes to be a luxery item for the selected few.

Perhaps Triumph UK have pulled the plug on this guy as Ducati did, and just see how well Ducati Thailand are doing now.

Are the Tiger 800 made here?

Well said.

+1

I looked at the Scrambler but ended up buying a hypermotard because it was a good bike and so much cheaper. In fact it's an expensive machine but the sales price in Thailand is the same as the UK.

Ducati sales are a success story over here and Triumph should get on board and compete.

[In Search of Space]

Everyone's knocking the British bikes, but I've fallen in love with my old AJS 350 16M, while at home gave it a facelift, new bars, levers, headlight, a big clean. It may be right-foot gear and may not go fast, or reliable, but it is fun. It looks nothing like an AJS, with aprillia upside-down front forks & disk brakes.

[OmegaRacer]

Everyone's knocking the British bikes, but I've fallen in love with my old AJS 350 16M, while at home gave it a facelift, new bars, levers, headlight, a big clean. It may be right-foot gear and may not go fast, or reliable, but it is fun. It looks nothing like an AJS, with aprillia upside-down front forks & disk brakes.

Well, so much teasing and no pictures?!?