Healthiest Thai bread?

[Fab5BKK]

Food for thought:

Depends on how one defines "better" ;-)

For number of people food equals pleasure, as well :-)

Last but not least, to each his own :-)

[Aforek]

Baguette is not healthwise because inside, there is : white flour, much sugar, much salt , high glycemic rate , much gluten

better to buy ( or make yourself ) bread made with complete flour ( T 80 , not sure available in Thailand )

[Fab5BKK]

It's a matter of taste

To each his own ;-)

BTW, if baguette was that unhealthy, French people wouldn't live that long ;-)

[h90]

Baguette is not healthwise because inside, there is : white flour, much sugar, much salt , high glycemic rate , much gluten

better to buy ( or make yourself ) bread made with complete flour ( T 80 , not sure available in Thailand )

I doubt the sugar....maybe just for the yeast. And salt is no problem. Gluten is no problem.

Just the white flour.....So either eat in moderation and not every day or do lots of sport. The taste is definitely worth to go 50 km with the bicycle first

I am sure white rice is worse and tastes nothing.

[Thomas33399]

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Wasn't the question about how ,do get a good bread here? Why can' t all these idiots keep to the topic instead of giving health sugestions , Please .keep your thought to the initial questions

"To" rather than "do", I think. If the initial question included "good" then (presumably) what counts as "good" is relevant; or am I being an "idiot"?

Spetersen was correct. The whole point of this exercise was to find good bread. That means finding bread that is well made that people can enjoy eating - a very relevant topic given the limited supply of quality bread in this country. It was not centered on all this unsubstantiated stuff on whether bread is healthy or not. Mr Petersen was entirely correct and accurate in pointing out how people hijack a great topic for their own irrelevant trivia.

What is worse he then gets condemned for trying to make the whole discussion worthwhile.

[CLW]

For me now an acceptable bread with good availability is the Farmhouse Royal Bread 12 Grains. It contains no artificial flavour and has some healthy grains inside. But still 8 percent sugar. Anyway a good alternative for me if I don't have a homemade bread at the moment.

[speedtripler]

Conrad hotel has a western style bakery - a sorts of breads and cakes

[MaeJoMTB]

We usually eat it within 5 to 7 days. I keep it in the fridge . Only once it got bad after a week, must have touched it with something on my fingers.

If we go somewhere for a couple of days I just slice it all up and freeze it in tight plastic bag.

I had heard that it will last longer left out of the fridge than in it. The best way to make it last was to freeze it.

Any truth in this?

Nope,

Mold is the problem, the warmer and wetter the atmosphere, the quicker it grows mold.

Thailand has the perfect climate for mold.

In the fridge it is too cool and dry (in a plastic bad).

So 3 days outside Vs 10 days in the fridge.

[MaeJoMTB]

Baguette is not healthwise because inside, there is : white flour, much sugar, much salt , high glycemic rate , much gluten

better to buy ( or make yourself ) bread made with complete flour ( T 80 , not sure available in Thailand )

I doubt the sugar....maybe just for the yeast. And salt is no problem. Gluten is no problem.

Just the white flour.....So either eat in moderation and not every day or do lots of sport. The taste is definitely worth to go 50 km with the bicycle first

I am sure white rice is worse and tastes nothing.

Maybe the other chemicals they add that are bad for you, these are in most commercially produced bread.

(Chorleywood bread process CBP)

Preservatives - assorted

hydrogenated fat

l-absorbic acid

bleach

l-cysteine hydrochloride

soya flour

emulsifiers - assorted

enzymes - assorted

Since WW2 even the wheats and yeasts have been drastically altered by both selection, processing and genetic modification.

None of these changes were for the benefit of the consumer.

[roger101]

Any updates on buying high fiber bread in Pattaya

[kickstart]

5 hours ago, roger101 said:

Any updates on buying high fiber bread in Pattaya

You might be luck in buying some good bread in a city, look in to making your own a bread, bread maker from Lazada/Shoppe , whole meal flour you can buy line, might be able to buy it in town, white bread flour readily available. 

I have been making my own bread for a couple of years now, most certainly better than Farmhouse.

[3NUMBAS]

Bake your own is maybe the best idea 

[Seppius]

There is a good little bakery where i buy my bread, usually get sourdough, one near the corner Thepppasit, not the continental, this one is right near the corner, they have another shop on Pratumnak 5, fresh every day, or so they say

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 4/2/2015 at 12:45 PM, h90 said:

Fresh hot bread with shredded garlic in olive oil

Naah, lots of butter and a little bit of vegemite. 

[Hummin]

Find a German bakery

[Lorry]

There is no healthy Thai bread.

 

The much lauded Farmhouse sponges "breads " contain 5% sugar and are unbearably sweet. It's useful as bubble foil,  though. 

 

Baguettes at BigC (not Lotusss) are edible, but sweet, of course. 

 

Macro sells bread without sugar. Tastes like cardboard. 

 

Some German bakeries sell ok bread, not all.

[MarkBR]

Good bread should not have sugar in it.

[Mason45]

On 4/2/2015 at 5:28 PM, Rykbanlor said:

I have heard of people doing bread in your average electric rice cooker.

 

On 4/2/2015 at 5:28 PM, Rykbanlor said:

I have heard of people doing bread in your average electric rice cooker.

I buy sourdough bread from Harry's Bakery in Soi Buakhaow , it's very close to the market. It's ok for me as I'm allergic to yeast.

[KhunLA]

Unless wanting to pay silly price, and sill not knowing what the 'specialty' shops, bakers put in their bread, then just make at home.  Really is too easy, and one of the easiest things to bake.  

 

No need for a machine, but without, need to be around for about 2 hours, start to finish.  15-20 mins to mix, 30 min rest, another 30 min rest, then about 30 mins in oven.

 

Last loaf I made, yesterday, was 250g whole wheat & 250g bread flour, water, salt, yeast, and I did put 10g sugar in, when doing a 50/50 split on flour.  So not so dense, and the sugar is probably gone anyway, by the time it goes in the oven.

 

Makes for an 825-850g loaf (350 water), healthier than store bought & tasty.

 

Some current bread thread (buying / making) ...

... Bread Making Machine or Convection Oven

... Bread shops

... Yeast flour

... My Bread Has Begun

(recipe vid) Bread @ 7:20 of vid

 

 

[scubascuba3]

If in Pattaya, my favourite is Continental Bakery White English cut loaf 58 baht, sells out quickly usually, easy for your body to digest, tastes good, I'm slim and have a healthy diet, fat people tend to balk at white bread, go figure

[BigStar]

9 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

fat people tend to balk at white bread, go figure

 

Figured. Has to do with their not exercising nearly to the extent that you do. They realize that more empty carb calories that go straight to glucose will only make them fatter.

[scubascuba3]

9 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Figured. Has to do with their not exercising nearly to the extent that you do. They realize that more empty carb calories that go straight to glucose will only make them fatter.

No wrong answer, it's all the other garbage they eat like croissants and other fatty junk

[Kwaibill]

On 4/2/2015 at 6:41 AM, Tokay said:

I haven't seen many options other than the Farm House whole wheat and the fine whole wheat, but the more I look into bread I am unsure they are that healthy as I don't think they are 100% whole wheat grain, and instead simply unbleached flour as it says on their website (www.farmhouse.co.th).

Has anyone already looked into this or found better alternatives?

Thank you.

I used to buy at a Belgian owned bakery in Bang Saray. Lately I have been baking my own, mostly. Only requires about one hour “ hands on” for two weeks worth. Of course I have years experience, but at 70+ not as if I have high demand on my time anyway.

As a long time diabetic and cardio patient there are a number of advantages vs “store bought”. Very little sugar or salt in the end product or other health damaging additives. I enjoy playing around with various whole grain options and “add ins” such as seeds, nuts, what have you. A little cinnamon, not really enough to taste, but it helps keep it fresh. Portion control because I bake smallish loaves of what is, after all, a high carb food. And by golly, the flavor of my homemade breads beats anything from the grocery store. One exception is the “Emperor” designation bread. They make an okay whole grain type, and I think one called “Cubic” that Mrs. Kwai has brought home a couple of times, but they still tend to additives I have trouble remembering how to spell. And cheap! Amortize the cost per loaf of a ten kilo  bag of AP flour or Indian atta ( whole wheat) and you’re talking in the under a dollar  range.

My mother at one time baked and in high school we had a great ( also diabetic) baker who made our daily bread, along with fab cakes, etc.

[harryviking]

There are NO healthy bread. But if you actually want to have some, try some sourdough made from Rye or Spelt (Emmer or Einkorn also)...if these are to be found in Thailand at all. Also, I havent seen any flour in the shop that is not chemically whitened!"! That in itself is BAD!!

[KhunLA]

3 minutes ago, harryviking said:

There are NO healthy bread. But if you actually want to have some, try some sourdough made from Rye or Spelt (Emmer or Einkorn also)...if these are to be found in Thailand at all. Also, I havent seen any flour in the shop that is not chemically whitened!"! That in itself is BAD!!

You can buy rye flour at many of the vendors, and I have, and used, though a bit pricy.  Nice change and hard to beat a good rye bread for sandwiches, or just toasted w/butter.

 

Most other flours & grains are available online, some pricy, and some a bit difficult to work with.

[ricklev]

As you are in chiang Mai, just go to any branch of Nana Bakery.  Problem solved!!!

[jippytum]

On 4/2/2015 at 8:04 AM, Tokay said:

I used to live in Pattaya but moved up north to Chiang Mai a few years ago when the Russians invaded. Nothing against the Russians, just giving a reference of time.

It just so happens that only after 2 years in Chiang Mai, the Chinese invaded. http://static.thaivisa.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/blink.png It's still nice though. Just have to be careful when driving because they are hell on wheels.

I'll ask around up here and see if I can find the flour. Baking my own sounds like a good idea.

Nothing against the Russians. !  Really. 

[BoganInParasite]

Started making my own bread by hand two years ago after being dissatisfied with supermarket options and reliable availability here in northern Nan province. Started simply with a white round loaf oven baked in a cast iron camp oven. Then expanded the range to include a whole wheat loaf, a fruit loaf, then white loaf milk washed and with sesame seeds and a white loaf milk washed and cheddar cheese on top. A bit later mastered white and whole wheat bread rolls. Three months ago tried making white baguettes and they have become our favourite; we make 2-3 times a week now. Have also produced some fruit baguettes and just last week a whole wheat baguette. Really do enjoy it.

[SiSePuede419]

On 4/1/2015 at 5:41 PM, Tokay said:

but the more I look into bread I am unsure they are that healthy as I don't think they are 100% whole wheat grain

We like to buy "whole wheat" bread from a bakery for 100B for a small loaf.  We toast it up and put orange marmalade or Black sesame paste on it.  Delicious.

But is it 100% whole wheat?

Of course not.

Have you ever made 100% ww bread yourself? Mine was hard as a rock the next day.

Similar to the "authentic" WW bread I bought in Mae Naam on Samui.

Hard as a rock after a day or two.

Totally inedible.

C'mon.

Why would you want that?

Eat chia seeds for fiber.

Or even inulin.  Recent research indicates even cheap inulin improves cognitive function in over 60s.

Fiber is the answer not making bread loaves that are as hard as a door stop after a day or two. 😁

[Luuk Chaai]

On 4/2/2015 at 9:05 AM, Sandman77 said:

Please define a healthy bread!

Thx!

 

the kind you  "DON'T EAT !