Ninja 650 not starting (short circuit sound)

[robblok]

All of a sudden my bike wont start, i have always kept it dry under a tarp but now it wont start. Last riden it a week ago. When i flip the switch and engage the starter it makes a srrrtrttt (clicking sound) Does anyone have an idea what this can be ?

I can't drive it to Kawasaki so if i cant find a quick fix will have to see if i can get hem pick it up (if i can get them to do that at all). That would be a lot of hassle but prefer to drive it there.

It does not sound like a drained battery trying to start that is for sure.

[stoneyboy]

Do the indicators or lights switch on ?

[Briggsy]

Any decent dealer will yok rot (pick up the bike) for you. There will be a charge. If Kawasaki are too pricey, get a local dealer to deliver it for you. e.g. A big Honda dealer in Chonburi charged me 200 Baht for a pick-up that involved a round trip of 15 km. They had a proper lift on the back of the truck.

If it is only a fuse, might be cheaper and quicker to have someone fix it on the spot.

[stoneyboy]

Bump start it in 2nd gear.

Get pushing.

[robblok]

The whole electrical system did turn on. I will check the lights once im home again.

Briggsy price of pickup is not a real concern. More the hassle of it all.

[robblok]

Bump start it in 2nd gear.

Get pushing.

Will try thanks for the advice im a total technical idiot wish i was a bit more handy myself.

[papa al]

A short-circuit likely will produce no sound or a bpzzt/arching/sparking sound.

That scmrrttt clicking sound : starting solenoid trying but failing to engage.

Weak battery or poor/dirty connection/solenoid.

Great bump-start video.

Nothing could possibly go wrong with that method.

Consider paying mocy taxi (or other) guys to push you while you are astride bike with helmet properly donned.

Good luck.

In the mood for a ride on my ninja now, thanks.

[robblok]

Pushing of a bike with clutch then going to gear is something i done with 50cc 2 stroke bikes when i was 16. Might be harder with a 650 cc but it never hurts to try.

[robblok]

A short-circuit likely will produce no sound or a bpzzt/arching/sparking sound.

That scmrrttt clicking sound : starting solenoid trying but failing to engage.

Weak battery or poor/dirty connection/solenoid.

Great bump-start video.

Nothing could possibly go wrong with that method.

Consider paying mocy taxi (or other) guys to push you while you are astride bike with helmet properly donned.

Good luck.

In the mood for a ride on my ninja now, thanks.

Might be able to buy a new battery and push the bike to a local shop. Again thanks for the advice. Once im back home ill consider my options and try something. A new battery even if not needed wont break the bank. Think the original battery is still in and never replaced.

[MadMac]

Sounds like an empty battery.

[kiniyow]

Weak Battery---Wont engage the flywheel

[Briggsy]

How old is the bike and by extension the battery? When did you last ride it?

Sorry just spotted "last ridden a week ago".

Edited November 5, 2015 by Briggsy

[taninthai]

99.9% sure it's the battery

[Briggsy]

Based on the information available, battery is the first stop.

[robblok]

Once im back i take the scooter to the kawasaki shop and buy a new battery. The bike is 5 years old so replacing the battery is not a bad idea anyway.

I keep it stored under a real good tarp and have always brought it in for the required services. I am the second owner of the bike and i love the bike.

Its much fun to ride and prefer it over my car or scooter.

So ill get a new battery first, even I can replace a bike battery.

[Dutchbike]

Could be a starter relay, but by the description I agree with must posters: most likely the battery.

I once had a battery ( the OEM battery,KLX 250 3 years old) dying on me after riding 400 km, arrived at my destination,stopped the bike, after 5 minutes, wanted to start the bike to park it,.... nothing... just a faint click ( relay) it turned out the battery was shot ( dead cell)

Thailand's heat takes it toll on batteries.

[wantan]

Would suggest you check battery and strter relay. We had something similar not long ago:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/850207-ninja-650-r-intermittently-wont-startnot-the-battery/

[Briggsy]

Since the battery is 5 years old, the spotlight of suspicion falls even more brightly on this 'part of interest'.

[robblok]

Ok got a new battery filled it and now its charging, at Kawasaki they told me to charge it for 1 1/2 hour. So after that I will install it. I hope it will solve the problem.

[AllanB]

Too late now, but I would have taken the old battery in and got it tested, 5 years is good for a battery in Thailand, so would suspect that too. The tarp will keep the weather off but not the heat, suggest a silver bike cover if in the sun.

My local battery guy tested my old battery found a dead cell and then prepared the new one ready to go, so surprised you had to fill your own. Sulphuric acid, nasty stuff that.

[taninthai]

Not sure about charging a new battery ,they normally are ready to go straight out the box.

[papa al]

How would heat cause just one cell to fail?

[AllanB]

I bought a battery from "Do Home" for my brother-in-law's pickup, he took it home and after he fitted it found it didn't work, turns out it was empty, so he filled it with distilled water, still nothing and then called me. I told him to get a local guy to fill it with acid, the battery lasted for about a month and then packed up, obviously damaged. Took it back, got a refund and went to a battery specialist, where it was not only cheaper, fitted, guaranteed, but he gave us 500baht for the old one.

I had no idea they supply batteries empty here........... damn silly idea IMO.

[robblok]

Ok done, i replaced the battery and it works. So it was the battery.

As for charging as I had that fill the battery with liquid so it could not have been charged.

[taninthai]

What's wrong with this DELETED forum can't seem to quote posts
Robblock yep they are the batteries I use fill em yourself every time I go back to UK bike battery always need replacing just fit it and let the bike charge it,I suppose a liitle 1 hour charge isn't gonna harm it though

[robblok]

What's wrong with this DELETED forum can't seem to quote posts

Robblock yep they are the batteries I use fill em yourself every time I go back to UK bike battery always need replacing just fit it and let the bike charge it,I suppose a liitle 1 hour charge isn't gonna harm it though

My battery charger also showed the battery as not being full so I guess they were right at Kawasaki and after 1 1/2 hour it did show it as full so seems they knew their stuff.

[papa al]

I bought a battery from "Do Home" for my brother-in-law's pickup, he took it home and after he fitted it found it didn't work, turns out it was empty, so he filled it with distilled water, still nothing and then called me. I told him to get a local guy to fill it with acid, the battery lasted for about a month and then packed up, obviously damaged. Took it back, got a refund and went to a battery specialist, where it was not only cheaper, fitted, guaranteed, but he gave us 500baht for the old one.

I had no idea they supply batteries empty here........... damn silly idea IMO.

Some are sealed.

Some require filling with electrolyte.

Silly but true.

The latter require no initial charging.

Edited November 5, 2015 by papa al

[AllanB]

Any new battery would benefit from an overnight trickle, it can't be damaged if you have a decent charger, then you know you have 100% to begin with. Sorry I don't trust Thai shops to do anything properly, that way no probs.

I tend to do that to my truck and bikes when I have been away for a long time.

[MaeJoMTB]

Ok done, i replaced the battery and it works. So it was the battery.

As for charging as I had that fill the battery with liquid so it could not have been charged.

When you fill it the battery is charged.

Charging reverses the discharge chemical reaction.

[robblok]

Ok done, i replaced the battery and it works. So it was the battery.

As for charging as I had that fill the battery with liquid so it could not have been charged.

When you fill it the battery is charged.

Charging reverses the discharge chemical reaction.

I was told I had to charge it and my charger (before charging) told me the battery was empty. So I think I did the right thing. I went to Kawasaki and this is genuine article and they do know what they do over there. So I am assuming it went ok because the bike started and the charger showed the battery full at the end of the charging.