Upgrading to a 300 Cc from a 150 PCX

[stevegeo]

Was wondering what your thoughts were about going with the 300 pros and cons especially if anyone had the 150 and got a 300

Thanks in advance

[PremiumLane]

More power, which is always a good thing, but not enough power to catch you off guard, so you can really start to learn riding a bike.

I went from 150, 250/300, 630 to 1000

Which 300 are you wanting? I think the R3/MT03 or Ninja300 or Z300 are the best ones out there at the moment

[stevegeo]

I was thinking about the 300 FORZA

[andrew55]

What riding do you plan? Pillion? Bags?

I love the PCX150 on my own with a small backpack commuting or out of town. Prefer it to my old 400 except odd occasion when I feel like heading to the hills for a 'scratch' which is getting rarer as wisdom grows. Then I can't stand up straight for a day. Comfy PCX. Do you want or need more power?

Edited April 29, 2016 by andrew55

[stevegeo]

Not sure which I would go with maybe bags.

I do very little long distance driving anymore before I sold my Harley wide glide the wife and I covered a lot of Thailand

I might would do a Nong Khai run but but most riding would be short trips with a few May Sai runs maybe

[stevegeo]

As far as needing more power the 150 seems to have enough everyday power I just miss the power of the Harley I know the 300 will still be well short but with it's increase in size and more power than the PCX 150 I might be more satisfied with it

[hkt83100]

I was thinking about the 300 FORZA

I had a test-sit on a Forza. Compared to my current PCX150, I don't have enough room for my legs on a Forza. I prefer the position on the PCX, and she is good enough for longer tours anyway. I my eyes, the Forza 300 is not worth the extra amount of money.

Have a look at a trip I did with my PCX, it was a great experience. Move over to http://hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4103 and have fun reading about it.

[rodknock]

check out Benelli tnt 300, awesome bike and the best price!!

[moose7117]

i have a forza and have done a few short 5 to 8 hour runs on it, it is a lot more comfortable to cruise on than a pcx as the extra power allows the bike to sit at highway speeds without ringing its neck.

the riding position can be a wee bit cramped, as there is a hump in the seat, however i have approached a local upholsterer and he can remove the hump and give a more flat seat for a reasonable sum.

the seating position would not be a problem if i was not 1.9 meters tall.

i upgraded my rear shocks as well as i travel with passengers, one of which is around 90 kilo's and as i am 120 kg's the bike is reaching the limits of the OEM shocks.

overall i think you should rent one for a day or two and try it on for size as they are a bit bigger and a bit heavier.

personally i don't have any trouble riding it around in heavy traffic but some people prefer a more nimble machine.

i am in the process of selling my forza, not because i am unhappy with it, its just that the bike i am going to purchase, bmw s1000xr, is just a bit faster and just a bit more powerful and i need the ability to go fast.

please do not listen to the naysayers, go rent one and try it and make up your own mind.

rob

[stevegeo]

Thanks everyone for your thoughts. I picked up a new Orange FORZA today.

I only put 50 km on it about half of that in the city I am only 5'10 so I have a problem with the Seat but I can see someone over 6 feet might have problems.

I can see the FORZA has a little more weight than the PCX but its nothing compared to the Harley Wide glide, but like the Harley I see it takes a little more space to turn around .

I plan to make a run around the Chiang Mai mountains tomorrow to see how it handles. I don't want to be too hard on it as it only has about 55 km on it.

[rayinkrabi]

Lots of people have been complaining about the PCX seat for ages, and rightly so imo...however this is easily fixed with a replacement from these folk (they do seats for Forza's also):

https://www.facebook.com/mpmotorseat/?rc=p

They have lots to choose from and even give the option of moving the backrest back 2 to 3 inches ! all for around 2000 baht. I've just ordered my 2nd from them (very happy with the first but my dogs chewed a big hole in it chasing a snake :-)

Congrats on your new Forza Steve, I wish u happy / safe riding :-)

[stevegeo]

Thanks for the info on the seats. I took trip short trip through the mountains around Chiang Mai yesterday I was okay with the seat but the wife didn't like the way it set in the back.

[NoshowJones]

I was thinking about the 300 FORZA

Yes, I would recommend it, that is what I have done, but I have still kept my PCX 150, as I like it that much.

If you are always riding solo, and don't break the speed limits, IMO, there is really no need to go above a 300cc for these long road trips.

[NoshowJones]

I was thinking about the 300 FORZA

I had a test-sit on a Forza. Compared to my current PCX150, I don't have enough room for my legs on a Forza. I prefer the position on the PCX, and she is good enough for longer tours anyway. I my eyes, the Forza 300 is not worth the extra amount of money.

Have a look at a trip I did with my PCX, it was a great experience. Move over to http://hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4103 and have fun reading about it.

You must be quite a bit over 6ft tall, I am exactly 6ft, and I have OK leg room on my Forza.

[seedy]

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[rayinkrabi]

Thanks for the info on the seats. I took trip short trip through the mountains around Chiang Mai yesterday I was okay with the seat but the wife didn't like the way it set in the back.

No problem Steve, I like to spread word of good stuff like this to fellow TV members as I think it will benefit any (and there does seem to be a lot) who complain about inadequate leg room etc. I just received and fitted my new seat yesterday and am delighted with it, soft, backrest set (slightly) further back on my one, and looks great.

I do however recommend paying the extra for the genuine Honda seat frame (they give you a choice) as its far superior to the copy one and has the rubber seal around the edges.

[nycjoe]

I have a forza and love it. Abs brakes. Good power. Comfortable ride. Two cons are. With the larger wheel base it doesn't turn as sharply as a smaller bike and it is a bit heavier. No way of jump starting it and battery hard to get at. Having said that. I have a friend who had 5 bikes and only rides his forza now.