Obama: Trump ‘woefully unfit’ to be President

[Publicus]

11 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

NONE of the results was based on tests in a clinical environment. They were a bunch of (very biased) OPINIONS. Typical left-wing "proof".

 

It's a political campaign so lighten up.

 

Think of all the shit the lunatic right have called President Obama. To me Donald Trump is a wildman crackpot lunatic nutcase radical extremist flamethrower who is completely wrong for the position he seeks, i.e., Potus.

 

I am a citizen and a voter so I don't need a formal diagnosis by a qualified physician to say Donald Trump strikes me as an unstable dangerous strongman authoritarian. One can reasonably infer from this I would consider Trump to be a psychopath. That Trump is reckless and irresponsible -- a creator and seeker of bizarre thrills, any form of warped attention and in a desperate need of experiencing wild sensations.

 

So cheer up cause it's only my lay and personal opinion. I haven't any credential or authority to have him committed which is exactly what should be done with him. 

 

Then we could talk about Trump's fans and defenders.

[Ulysses G.]

26 minutes ago, Publicus said:

 

It's a political campaign so lighten up.

 

The claim was that Trump is a "clinically diagnosed sociopath and pathological liar". I always enjoy pointing out blatant lies.

 

As far as your personal opinion goes, I do not agree with it, but I have no problem with you expressing it as such.

[Publicus]

18 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

The claim was that Trump is a "clinically diagnosed sociopath and pathological liar". I always enjoy pointing out blatant lies.

 

As far as your personal opinion goes, I do not agree with it, but I have no problem with you expressing it as such.

 

I'll be pleased to keep you advised then

 

 

[Ulysses G.]

I'm sure that you will.

[keemapoot]

On 8/9/2016 at 11:54 AM, Publicus said:

 

None of the three need to say much of anything, if anything, and each probably much prefers to stay out of public electioneering for pretentions of both propriety and appearances. Also each of 'em is vulnerable individually.

 

Kissinger is a Vietnam war criminal who is still escaping oncoming police in certain European countries by dashing through a hotel back door at 3 am. Rice is forever Ms Mushroom Cloud Cheney whore. Baker was a legal beagle in the 2000 Bush chad fiasco in Florida. They'd only call attention to themselves to speak out, each one of 'em. One or more might go ahead to speak up if they felt a need or a lot of pressure from peers domestically and/or foreign, so we'll see.

 

For instance, when Trump at a May rally said Henry the K had endorsed him during their face to face meeting, K's office issued the following statement:

 

Through a spokesperson, Kissinger disputed Trump’s account. “On foreign policy, you identify many key problems” Kissinger said of Trump. “I do not generally agree with the solutions. One-shot outcomes are probably not possible.”

 

http://time.com/4351170/donald-trump-henry-kissinger-foreign-policy/

 

Probably?!? The statement is feeble.

 

So K is being restrained in public and, yes, K is hardly being public at all. Word around is that K as with President Obama is also privately assuring foreign foreign policy elites globally Trump will not be elected, that the voters will go with the safe option of former SecState Clinton and her team. K had already said publicly HRC as SecState "ran the state department better than anyone had run it in a long time." 

 

Rice has zero credibility and Baker at this point in his life does not need the hassle. If the Bush family led by GHW pushed Barker he'd probably speak out, but I doubt the Bushes would be much inclined to trouble the guy.

 

One or more of the three may indeed speak up at some point out of some sense of something, but I wouldn't wait for any shoes to drop. Trump is much too deep in the tank for any of the three to bother with. For one thing, Trump has seriously lost white suburban Republican married women en mass across the country -- and that's a constituency no Republican can afford to alienate. Very few sane Republicans (which are anyway very few in number) are comfortable speaking up for Trump's wild madness in national security matters especially. (When Jeb said his brother kept us safe that resonates with this R suburban woman demographic -- strongly.) 

 

To suburban Republican married women whose neighbor is in the League of Women Voters Trump and his overdone wife are crass, uncouth and dreadfully base. Neither of 'em ever worked a day in their life. The good family man and corporate success Mitt Romney and Ann are exactly their kind of people...and we know what Romney has said about Trump as Potus. (They didn't like the grumpy McCain much but they mostly voted for him.)

 

 

I wonder if these 3 biggies will come out now and condemn Trump's latest off-the-wall intimation that 2nd amendment defenders should assassinate Clinton to prevent her from taking away their guns? These State Department private club members might start taking this nutcase's comments personally soon. 

[Credo]

6 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

He is not a professional politician. His rivals are. It is not easy to compete against 40 years of repeating the same talking points for someone who is not great at rote memorization. However, that is the exact reason many people want him elected. I - and many other people - are willing to forgive him for  a few minor faux pas during a debate.

How hypocritical.   I am surprised that you of all people would be an apologist.

 

The post would best be left at 'He is not professional'.   I have the opportunity to work with a lot of young people, who are quite inexperienced, but they bring a breath of fresh air and a lot of new ideas.   Many of the ideas won't work, but there is new energy.   Trump is the furthest thing from this.   His ideas are archaic, incoherent and insane.   He has no policy, just rhetoric designed to entertain.     He is truly dangerous for anything other than the comedy channel.  

[Ulysses G.]

Sounds like an OPINION. I am not supporting Trump or being an apologist. However,  I could care less that he has not memorized a bunch of talking points like the other candidates. As far as ideas go, I like his ideas about getting rid of ILLEGAL immigrants and not allowing UNVETTED Muslims from terror/combat zones into our country. However, I do not trust him as he is too much of an unknown and he is all over the place with his views. That is why I do not intend to vote for him.

Edited August 11, 2016 by Ulysses G.

[Scott]

I think we can drop the discussion of whether or not he is a sociopath or a psychopath.   Most everyone has various personality traits from the DSM IV (or V).   There are as many traits that point to him not being a sociopath as there are that point towards him being one.  

 

We often see in people what we want to see.  

[ilostmypassword]

8 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

NONE of the results was based on tests in a clinical environment. They were a bunch of (very biased) OPINIONS. Typical left-wing "proof".

Another typical left-winger:

But Trump’s hypersensitivity and unedited, untempered Pavlovian responses are, shall we say, unusual in both ferocity and predictability.

This is beyond narcissism.

His needs are more primitive, an infantile hunger for approval and praise, a craving that can never be satisfied.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trump-and-the-fitness-threshold/2016/08/04/b06bae34-5a69-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html?utm_term=.57d772cc622f

The author is Charles Krauthammer.

[Ulysses G.]

You will not get me arguing that he is not narcissistic, but that is a far cry from being a sociopath or a psychopath. 

[ilostmypassword]

9 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

NONE of the results was based on tests in a clinical environment. They were a bunch of (very biased) OPINIONS. Typical left-wing "proof".

You want to see some more "typical left-wing "'proof'"?  Google "Obama narcissism".

[Neurath]

1 hour ago, Ulysses G. said:

You will not get me arguing that he is not narcissistic, but that is a far cry from being a sociopath or a psychopath. 

It's a start though.

[Publicus]

7 hours ago, keemapoot said:

 

I wonder if these 3 biggies will come out now and condemn Trump's latest off-the-wall intimation that 2nd amendment defenders should assassinate Clinton to prevent her from taking away their guns? These State Department private club members might start taking this nutcase's comments personally soon. 

 

It's pretty clear by the long silence of each of the three that none of 'em want anything to do with this election campaign. Trump is too controversial for any of the three to get involved in any way -- nobody goes to a punchbowl with the proverbial turd in it, eh.

 

It's also the case the 2nd Amendment madness has nothing directly to do with any of the three, whether it's Kissinger, Rice with Mushrooms. or the shifty Jas Baker. 

 

When during a D primary debate HRC mentioned that Henry the K had said she ran the best DepState in a long time, Bernie jumped all over her for citing K. Hillary had said she'd consult K and Bernie went ballistic to say he'd never do any such thing. K is himself still controversial and a hot topic.

 

The cynical view is that the three had remained silent in hopes of becoming of counsel to a prez Trump, but that notion has faded as fast as Trump's nosedive in the polling. None of 'em wanted to attack a potential Potus Hillary either, although Mushroom Rice would never be of counsel and neither would Baker be of any such.

 

When I wuz a young reporter I got sent to cover a huge multi-alarm fire, which was all well and good. I found later however I had to ditch the clothes I had worn because the stench can't ever be removed. Sort of like this Trump dumpster fire going on. Nobody around him was ever any good nor will anyone around Trump ever be any good to anyone, not ever and not for anything. So let the dump fire burn out by itself.

 

We can be sure MSM have contacted each of the three about Trump and nuclear weapons proliferation, Trump and the demolition of Nato, Trump and Putin etc etc. We've heard nothing from 'em however cause the three don't go to fires, bomb throwings or on suicide missions. MSM has probably tired of getting siff-armed by the PR office of each so they've likely quit making the call to 'em each time on everything. 

 

The limited value to HRC of K or the other two hitting Trump on foreign policy and national security is to have everyone see the most senior Republican foreign policy and national security establishment is running from the Trump dumpster blaze. Maybe that is something they would do, but we'll have to wait 'em out on this one to find out.

[Buzzz]

Trump thinks more people should carry guns. Then we will be safer!

 

Currently around 320 people a day are shot. 

Close to 120,000 gunshot victims a year. 

 

Whst will that number be if say,  there are ten times the people carrying guns?

You think we can surpass 1 million gun shootings a year?

 

And how many terrorists will these citizen heros 

be gunning down per year? 2 or 3? 

 

Ecxellent plan president Trump.

 

 

 

[Publicus]

8 hours ago, keemapoot said:

 

I wonder if these 3 biggies will come out now and condemn Trump's latest off-the-wall intimation that 2nd amendment defenders should assassinate Clinton to prevent her from taking away their guns? These State Department private club members might start taking this nutcase's comments personally soon. 

 

Donald Trump would leave the State Department doing games on their computers while HRC would keep 'em all busy there 24/7 which is what they signed up for, whether it's the career professionals or  the experts appointed by Potus to policy positions from secretary to undersec and deputysec to asstsec and deputyasstsec etc.

 

DepState people are diplomats so they know that when the guy you don't like is in a hole and digging harder all the time you simply pass a box lunch on down to him.  

[thaihome]

Interesting column by ex CIA and ex NSA director and one of the 50 intelligence officials that recently signed letter saying Trump was unfit to be president. 

TH 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/opinion/what-intelligence-briefings-can-tell-us-about-candidates.html?ref=international

[Jingthing]

It's time for a REAL magazine cover:

 

 

[Andaman Al]

*Removed post edited out*

 

So you missed the link in the article

 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/trump-fact-check-errors-exaggerations-falsehoods-213730

 

Are you saying Trump is not a pathological liar? We need to know.

[Buzzz]

Last week, Trump said the NFL wrote him a letter regarding the debate schedule. 

The NFL communications director said that is false. 

 

This  week, Trump denied the Secret Service warned him about his gun threats. 

The Secret Service communication directors said they have. 

 

A spokesman for Trump, named "John Miller"

says the NFL and Secret Service are liars!

LOL 

 

 

[Scott]

Numerous off-topic posts and replies removed.   Continued deflection and bickering WILL result in suspensions.

[chainarong]

I am inclined to agree with you Mr President , Mr Trump reminds me lately of a desperate man , with a tendency to hallucinate , borders on being a nutter , the PR team must be a right old mob of no hopers.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 7 สิงหาคม 2559 at 6:04 PM, ilostmypassword said:

Interesting that you think of women as people without male genitalia. As though they're lacking something. Your brand of socialism seems to hold non-white people, non-Western people, and female people in particular disrespect. There are all kinds of things called Socialism out there.  One of them had "National" as the adjective to describe it.

It's called sarcasm.

 

NB I try to avoid insulting other posters personally or implying that they are fascists. It's against forum rules.

[iReason]

The Crazy Bloviator is losing touch. Day by day...

 

Donald Trump gets day wrong twice while implying Clinton lacks mental stamina

 

"Donald Trump insinuated that Hillary Clinton lacks mental stamina at a rally where he twice couldn’t tell what day of the week it was."

 

"In another, perhaps more deliberate lapse, Trump claimed: This place is incredible. We’ve got 2,000 people outside trying to get in.”

 

"In fact there were still hundreds of empty places in the 8,000-seat arena in Kissimmee, near Orlando."  

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/11/trump-clinton-mental-stamina-florida-rally

 

A lie? Or just plain delusionsl?

[iReason]

Republican letter urges party to cut Trump's funding

 

"More than 70 Republicans have signed a letter to the party's National Committee head urging him

to stop helping Donald Trump's campaign."

"They said Mr Trump's "divisiveness" and "incompetence" risked drowning the party in November's election."

"The letter said that the party should instead focus on protecting vulnerable candidates in elections to the Senate and the House of Representatives."
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37055398

 

Do it.

And let's see if the Flip-Flopping Bloviator puts his money where his mouth is. 

[iReason]

“We believe that Donald Trump’s divisiveness, recklessness, incompetence, and record-breaking unpopularity

risk turning this election into a Democratic landslide, and only the immediate shift of all available RNC resources to vulnerable Senate and House races will prevent the GOP from drowning with,

a Trump-emblazoned anchor around its neck,” states a draft of the letter obtained by POLITICO. “

 

"This should not be a difficult decision,

as Donald Trump’s chances of being elected president are evaporating by the day.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/republicans-urge-rnc-cut-funds-trump-226918

 

Yee haw! This is glorious.

The Bloviator. The Albatross. The anchor. 

Edited August 12, 2016 by iReason

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.  

[boomerangutang]

Excerpt from an article in today's National Public Radio (US based)
titled; The Latest Clinton Converts? White, College-Educated Voters  

 

Hillary Clinton's recent surge in the polls is being fueled in part by a demographic that President Obama lost handily four years ago — white, college-educated voters.

"In over a half-century, no Democratic presidential candidate has carried white voters with a college degree," said Michelle Diggles, a senior political analyst with the center-left think tank Third Way, who described the split between the white working class and whites with a college degree as "the most underreported story of this year."

GOP nominee Donald Trump is hoping that white working-class voters can fuel his own victory. But his climb becomes doubly harder as he is far behind Clinton in the demographic bloc that is usually reliably Republican.

 

SOURCE

[seedy]

Nonsense post Removed

[iReason]

Are they slipping Lithium in the Bloviator's Diet Coke?

 

 

 

[iReason]

Great farcial Bloviating:  

 

 

Edited August 12, 2016 by iReason