hocuspocus Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 A good friend of mine in Chiang Mai is planning on becoming a father at the age of 65. I have told him he is too old but he insists he is young at heart and there will not be a problem. Are there many guys in Thailand who have become fathers after the age of 60 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kailung001 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Give it a go. If it doesn't work then seek for hospitals for advice e.g. fertility treatments (IVF and more...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 What is he trying to prove and who is he trying to prove it to. Silly idea at 65 when he should be sitting back and taking it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone88 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, overherebc said: What is he trying to prove and who is he trying to prove it to. Silly idea at 65 when he should be sitting back and taking it easy. Silly Idea? Who is anyone to judge? If he's happy, why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pungdo Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Friend of mine with a Filipino wife has a baby due next month, he is 68 and in my opinion mad, I am 10 years younger and have an unplanned 5 yr old daughter here in Thailand, very challenging at my age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shot Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Ask your friend if he is prepared to run up and down the street at 70 teaching his kid how to ride a bike. Ask your friend if he is prepared at 75 to spend endless hours coaching/teaching/participating with his child in sports. Will he be ready at 80 to fend off the dipsticks his child might encounter as a teen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) I see them around pushing strollers from time to time....Looking like it's normal for them.... It might be a beneficial thing......I imagine some have spent their working life living with pressure and turmoil - maybe unable or unwilling to bring children into that world; or maybe their wives didn't..... If that's what they really want why deny them.....It might mean meaningful, tranquil happiness - maybe for his 1st time..... Better late than never....In his eyes his legacy.... If he's an alright, well adjusted, happy guy he has a chance to take it to another level.....Hopefully it was his plan and choice & not a trap.... If he's a bar/pub crawler & his wife is from that side of life - it's ominous - for many reasons.... Edited October 10, 2016 by pgrahmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upside Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Is he fat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mokwit Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 The key consideration here is the increased possibility of the child being autistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 What's wrong with the crazy old geezers. Don't they think about anyone other than themselves. Big ego trip to have a child at 65. How about the child at age 8,10,or 15. Who wil care for and teach the children in their adolescent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, overherebc said: What is he trying to prove and who is he trying to prove it to. Silly idea at 65 when he should be sitting back and taking it easy. Could he really be be proving he's 's a rolling stone, even if can't carry a tune anymore? Either. Edited October 10, 2016 by silent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakaew Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 About 15 years ago, I agreed to have a baby with my then long time partner. Having had a vasectomy 20 years earlier, I trotted off to what is touted to be Thailand's BEST Hospital. A Specialist Fertility Doctor assured me I was not to old to father a child. They anaesthetized me, and harvested 3 sperm, which they kept in the fridge at their fertility centre. At a cost of 60,000 baht. No more than a week later, some new research from a VERY reputable centre in the US was published. At the time, it was believed that sperm transfer from men below the age of 40 was safe. (YES 40 NOT 60 or 70.) AS A RESULT OF THAT NEW RESEARCH....the maximum age for sperm donors was lowered. Why? Because all the research showed that although the baby may--and often does--emerge as a perfectly normal beautiful child....the chances of that same baby developing several mental defects, mainly autism or schizophrenia, are UNACCEPTABLY HIGH. This tends to happen in a childs' late teens. Not every child is unlucky enough to go this way. So.... long after the father has passed away, the Mother has an unacceptably high chance of having to raise a mentally deficient--and currently incurable--child. All on her own. That research was so compelling , that Australia lowered the age at which sperm transfer was recommended, to 35. I cancelled my fertility treatment. And blew the 6,000 baht it cost me to harvest those sperm. EACH AND EVERY TIME sperm transfer is attempted, the cost was 300,000 baht. That was years ago, and I imagine the cost would not have remained the same. The chances of success is VERY VERY low, even with a young couple. There would have been no doubt the Dear Old Doctor knew perfectly well the dangerous game he was assisting his patients to play...but HEY !!!!! TIT This is Thailand, as Bernie Trink used to say in his Night Owlcolumn. Anything goes, so long as money changes hands. Who needs Medical Ethics? Do yourself a favour. Type Elderly men's Sperm Degradation...Fertility Treatment. into Google Get the latest research info. When I see a decrepit old codger proudly carrying his new born around Big C....I ALWAYS wonder (a) Would he have gone ahead with the treatment, had he bothered to read about the clear dangers associated with the procedure? (b) Can his wife cope with an intellectually disabled child? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dereklev Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I was 54 when my son was born and I it has given me a new lease of life. It has been a wonderful roller coaster of a ride and I have no regrets whatsoever. However I am 66 now and would not want to embark on that ride now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Should buy a Harley instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgma Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I was 50-54......................enjoy every minute. Advise.?......50 as a limit. choice always yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicowoodduck Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I'm sure he is a most handsome man.....as the saying goes, one cannot fix stupid! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I am 57, I have no kids and have never been married and I have no intention of having kids. I am too old, selfish, a flake, and set in my ways. I enjoy seeing my nieces/nephews/and children of my friends but I have no burning desire to have children in an overpopulated world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Cyclone88 said: Silly Idea? Who is anyone to judge? If he's happy, why not. cos its no fare on the child thats why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellohello123 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) 49 minutes ago, little mary sunshine said: What's wrong with the crazy old geezers. Don't they think about anyone other than themselves. Big ego trip to have a child at 65. How about the child at age 8,10,or 15. Who wil care for and teach the children in their adolescent years. People like this infuriate me, sure its their life, they should and can do whatever they want, just dont negatviely affect innocent people. its people like this that are generally selfish and think only for themselves or think they are some gods gift to the world. the fact is everyone ages, some age better than others, the average life span of a male is what 70-80 depending on which country you are from have a kid at 65, chances are you will be dead by the time the kid turns 5. grows up without a father, your child is going to be younger then your grand kids, or 30 years younger then your kids from all your other failed marriages and to add to that the reality is that the risks of medical issues witht he child increase signfiicantly, (IT DOESNT MATTER HOW HANSUM YOU THINK YOU ARE OR WHAT HOTTIES ON THE STREET CORNER TELL YOU) if you are 65 and you can have kids, your wife is most liekly going to be under 40, young woman with older man situation, so its not charming personality or looks they are after just a total trainwreck for everyone involved and who are focred to get involved. get a damn pet cat or dog if you want something to do in your old age Edited October 10, 2016 by hellohello123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 vasectomy should be compulsory when farangs come to live in thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 As a first-time father myself, at 55, I'd recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer666 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Clearly, 65 is not only his age, it's also his I.Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonjake Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 36 minutes ago, catman20 said: vasectomy should be compulsory when farangs come to live in thailand F££K me some of the things that get said on here get dafter, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borzandy Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Cyclone88 said: Silly Idea? Who is anyone to judge? If he's happy, why not. Have to think further, in about 15 years when the kid will need a father's support.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mankondang Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 For a Buddhist country, there are a lot of guys playing God on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) It's selfish imho. The child grows up with a 'grand-father' instead of a father-figure and based on averages, there is a good chance that 'dad' won't be around to see the child graduate from school no less participate in other life events that a normal parent will be around to see. With that say, I absolutely love my Thai grand-daughter, and I'm the quintessential doting grand-dad <Puu>, but at the end of the day, the two-year old goes home to mom and dad, and grand-dad and grand-mom relax to an evening of peace and quiet. Also, when I pass away, I'll be a respected and cared for picture on the wall that brings back fond rememberances of "Puu", not a person that is supposed to be the center of the child's life, and once gone, a person who's passing bring much mourning and loss. If I lost my dad at a young age, I would have been crushed. No - it's immensely selfish. Edited October 10, 2016 by connda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano555 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 So the kid will be a fatherless kid at 8 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, sakaew said: When I see a decrepit old codger proudly carrying his new born around Big C....I ALWAYS wonder... If it's his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonjake Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 there are kids all over this world without parents at all, its got to be better to have the love of a father for a few years then to never have at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, sakaew said: When I see a decrepit old codger proudly carrying his new born around Big C....I ALWAYS wonder When you see this decrepit old codger proudly carrying a two-year old at Big C, it's my lovely grand-daughter. :) Edited October 10, 2016 by connda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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