West Ham Thread

[keddy]

We've had a few flashes from youngsters in the past Bobby Barnes, Johnny Ayres (off the top of my ancient head) who didn't go on to make it just hope this kid will hold down a place.

Not sure about those two, keddie. Suprisingly, Little Ayris and Barnes both played 54 times each in the first team.

Ade Coker more fits the bill playing only 11 times. Roger Cross , 8 times. Stephen Death only one appearance in goal (never forget a name spelled like that). Eamonn Dolan,18. Dale Banton, 6. Lee Hodges, 6.

I'm sure that Matt Holland was another. But cant find any record of him. Perhaps he never played for the first team ? It was a mistake letting him go anyway, imo.

I think that your're right about a lot of bench warming when the senior players come back. I wouldn't be suprised if he went out on loan like Noble did and, blimey, Ephraim. Whose he out on loan to nowadays ?

Johnny Ayris was cut down in his prime by bloody chopper harris, wasn't he. I'm surprised he made that many appearances. As for Roger Cross, he was my old PE teacher, (Cumberland, Plaistow) I think- If he was the same one-he went on to play for Brentford. Steve Death I know lived up to his name and died in the depths of the football league playing for Reading. I never knew he played for the us, though. As for Hogan Ephraim, he's at QPR not on loan but sold for a couple of barrels of roll mop herrings As for Ray Houghton, , apparently I was there during his one appearance but I can't remember anything about him but his career didn't exactly sink without trace after that, did it. He reminds me a bit of Jimmy Bullard-should we have him back? Another couple of mystery men to mull over are Anton Outa-something-ski and Dale Banton, remember them? As for Alan Pardew. I like the fella but have you been keeping an eye on Charlton recently? They will be lucky to get into the play-offs.

[HarryHacker]

Pardew took us to the Play Off Final but lost it after being in charge not a full Season, then his first full Season in charge he took us to the Play Off Final & we did go back up, both times we were not playing that well, but both times we seemed to get better as the Season went on..

Are you playing ok at the moment or not really ??

Not sure if Pardew can be a good Premiership Manager but he seems to have a nack in the Championship..

Unfortunately, Charlton are playing terrible, whilst in the top 5 we dropped 12 points to teams in the bottom 4, thats not good!

I would rather give AP another full season than take any ex-manager back to be honest.

[MSingh]

Pardew took us to the Play Off Final but lost it after being in charge not a full Season, then his first full Season in charge he took us to the Play Off Final & we did go back up, both times we were not playing that well, but both times we seemed to get better as the Season went on..

Are you playing ok at the moment or not really ??

Not sure if Pardew can be a good Premiership Manager but he seems to have a nack in the Championship..

Unfortunately, Charlton are playing terrible, whilst in the top 5 we dropped 12 points to teams in the bottom 4, thats not good!

I would rather give AP another full season than take any ex-manager back to be honest.

That's what we did, & he got us promoted..

[HarryHacker]

Pardew took us to the Play Off Final but lost it after being in charge not a full Season, then his first full Season in charge he took us to the Play Off Final & we did go back up, both times we were not playing that well, but both times we seemed to get better as the Season went on..

Are you playing ok at the moment or not really ??

Not sure if Pardew can be a good Premiership Manager but he seems to have a nack in the Championship..

Unfortunately, Charlton are playing terrible, whilst in the top 5 we dropped 12 points to teams in the bottom 4, thats not good!

I would rather give AP another full season than take any ex-manager back to be honest.

That's what we did, & he got us promoted..

Fingers X'd and all that.

[mark100]

Last night at Everton showed Curbishleys lack of tactics, we have nothing left to play for this season we're not in danger of going down, so why start with 1 up front for what ???

Why not start with a 4-4-2 and play Sears with Ashton from the start, he took the chance of starting Tomkins so why not Sears ??

When he did come in the second half he caused all sorts of trouble for the Everton defence, and not since Bellamy earlier in the season have l seen a West Ham player race clear one on one with the keeper.

Why does he carry on playing Boa-Morte the man is CR## !! He is lazy and its quite obvious he does'nt want to play for us, stick him the reserves and make him play there, until he is forced to leave, does Curbishley play him so he feels vindicated for buying him in the first place.

When is he going to stop playing 1 up front, it just does not work.

ln earlier posts l have comended Curbishley for the good work he has done, and l stand by that but lm sorry he just does'nt have the man mangement skills or tactical knowledge required to take us to the next level.

[MSingh]

I think the 4-5-1 is very effective if i'm honest & we have played some of our best Football this year, using it..It just depends on which personnel we have when using it, that's the problem. Good result though that, happy with a point at Everton..

[keddy]

I think the 4-5-1 is very effective if i'm honest & we have played some of our best Football this year, using it..It just depends on which personnel we have when using it, that's the problem. Good result though that, happy with a point at Everton..

Just seen a replay of the Everton and we seemed to gain in confidence, as the second half wore on. I'm not that worried about the '1 up top' formation because Freddie Swede and Mark Noble have got the pace to support Dean Ashton, though I like the look of young Freddie Sears playing off him at some stage in future games, coming off the bench. I agree about Boa Morte but if he's handled right he is a useful squad player although on the expensive side Really glad we have these youngsters getting into the team Next season we can push on a few places with the right balance of young and old though, of course, you never know what you're going to get with the Hammers

[MSingh]

I want a nice win tomorrow Gents, 1-2 i'm thinking..

I don't think Sunderland are a good side although they are much better at home than they are away, i still think we should have too much for them if we decide we want the 3 points.

[Sunderland]

I want a nice win tomorrow Gents, 1-2 i'm thinking..

I don't think Sunderland are a good side although they are much better at home than they are away, i still think we should have too much for them if we decide we want the 3 points.

I think not!

Suitable revenge for your lucky win at the Boleyn Ground earlier this season.

West Ham were good value for their early lead and could have had a second but for the woodwork and a fantastic save from Craig Gordon. Sunderland well worth their win in the end though after dominating the last hour of the game.

[keddy]

I want a nice win tomorrow Gents, 1-2 i'm thinking..

I don't think Sunderland are a good side although they are much better at home than they are away, i still think we should have too much for them if we decide we want the 3 points.

I think not!

Suitable revenge for your lucky win at the Boleyn Ground earlier this season.

West Ham were good value for their early lead and could have had a second but for the woodwork and a fantastic save from Craig Gordon. Sunderland well worth their win in the end though after dominating the last hour of the game.

..'we just about edged it in the second half' - Roy Keane. Doesn't sound like you dominated, it sounds like we were playing on the break, as teams do when they are away but you're almost right about our win at the Boleyn we were lucky but that day we scored and you didn't much like yesterday.but reversed Good luck for the rest of the season but you won't need much as you're going to keep spinning on the premiership wheel for another season or two at least!

[MSingh]

I want a nice win tomorrow Gents, 1-2 i'm thinking..

I don't think Sunderland are a good side although they are much better at home than they are away, i still think we should have too much for them if we decide we want the 3 points.

I think not!

Suitable revenge for your lucky win at the Boleyn Ground earlier this season.

West Ham were good value for their early lead and could have had a second but for the woodwork and a fantastic save from Craig Gordon. Sunderland well worth their win in the end though after dominating the last hour of the game.

Bwaaahhhh, fact is you wanted it more than us because of the relegation fight you are/were in, please don't kid yourself that you're a good side, just like i don't kid myself that we're anything more than a good side..

[MSingh]

They're all big Games, tonight is no exception.

COME ON YOU IRONS...

[EastSaxCol]

Sirs, this is the first time that I've seen actual footage of this defining moment in our support.

Even Hackett, contrive as he may, couldn't steal it away from us.

Go On You Ironzzz !!!!

[MSingh]

Sirs, this is the first time that I've seen actual footage of this defining moment in our support.

Even Hackett, contrive as he may, couldn't steal it away from us.

Go On You Ironzzz !!!!

I had the privelage of being in that Support HH..

Awful performance last night, devoid of ideas, creativity, just absolutely anything..

Big thumbs down from me.

[EastSaxCol]

I had the privelage of being in that Support HH..

Me too mate. In the Holt End. I've always wanted to hear what we must have sounded like. Blimey, and it really did sound as good as I imagined it must be. Phenominal.

Awful performance last night, devoid of ideas, creativity, just absolutely anything..

Big thumbs down from me.

Stil, we still might end up above the Spuds. Next season is Curbs real test -- or goodbye around Christmas. But we live in hope.

Martin Samuel

The one development at Upton Park in recent months has been the appointment of a technical director, Gianluca Nani, who will have some influence on transfer policy. West Ham’s shortcomings under Curbishley have been specific, but also ring a universal chord. The bottom-line problem is that the manager appears to have picked his targets using a five-year-old Rothmans Football Yearbook, giving West Ham a squad of players who are definitely title contenders if they can only find a way of turning the clock back to 2003.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/col...icle3708441.ece

[MSingh]

I had the privelage of being in that Support HH..

Me too mate. In the Holt End. I've always wanted to hear what we must have sounded like. Blimey, and it really did sound as good as I imagined it must be. Phenominal.

Awful performance last night, devoid of ideas, creativity, just absolutely anything..

Big thumbs down from me.

Stil, we still might end up above the Spuds. Next season is Curbs real test -- or goodbye around Christmas. But we live in hope.

Martin Samuel

The one development at Upton Park in recent months has been the appointment of a technical director, Gianluca Nani, who will have some influence on transfer policy. West Ham's shortcomings under Curbishley have been specific, but also ring a universal chord. The bottom-line problem is that the manager appears to have picked his targets using a five-year-old Rothmans Football Yearbook, giving West Ham a squad of players who are definitely title contenders if they can only find a way of turning the clock back to 2003.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/col...icle3708441.ece

I'm gonna be bold & say we have to get rid of him in the Summer, if not for the unentertaining Football that his teams play, then for the completely inept Medical Team that he has assembled at the Club, it really, really is beyond a joke now.

[EastSaxCol]

I'm gonna be bold & say we have to get rid of him in the Summer, if not for the unentertaining Football that his teams play, then for the completely inept Medical Team that he has assembled at the Club, it really, really is beyond a joke now.

Quote from WHO

I'm always dissappointed to lose, even at Anfield, and last night was frustrating on the attacking side, especially as we started off well, playing good football with some nice exchanges - it was depressing to see it all turn to crap after the first hallf hour. We defended well though, and were only undone by an excellent build up and an equally excellent finish.

Small picture, let down. Sort it out, Curbishley.

Big picture, safe by Easter. Well done Curbishley, this season is a marked improvement on last year's near death experience. A similar improvement next season will keep me happy. Safe by New Year's Day would be nice.

Steady as she goes, Hammers!

I think that this just about sums up my present attitude, tbh.

[keddy]

I'm gonna be bold & say we have to get rid of him in the Summer, if not for the unentertaining Football that his teams play, then for the completely inept Medical Team that he has assembled at the Club, it really, really is beyond a joke now.

Quote from WHO

I'm always dissappointed to lose, even at Anfield, and last night was frustrating on the attacking side, especially as we started off well, playing good football with some nice exchanges - it was depressing to see it all turn to crap after the first hallf hour. We defended well though, and were only undone by an excellent build up and an equally excellent finish.

Small picture, let down. Sort it out, Curbishley.

Big picture, safe by Easter. Well done Curbishley, this season is a marked improvement on last year's near death experience. A similar improvement next season will keep me happy. Safe by New Year's Day would be nice.

Steady as she goes, Hammers!

I think that this just about sums up my present attitude, tbh.

Woke up in the middle of the night to see the game and was struck by how disjointed and disinterested we were as a team. We never really put them under pressure and they seemed to be coasting, particularly once they got the goal (which was a good one). I think the seasons already over for many of the players and because the squad is so stretched, there isn't much pressure from people waiting in the wings. The exception was the forward line where Ashton, Zamora (apart from the miss obviously!) and Cole showed a few good touches. I have to say I'm losing faith in Mullins, Neil, Spector and dead snake LBM, though improved, is still coming up short. The worse thing was Harry describing the game as comfortable which it should never be for the opposition at the Boleyn. As for Villa Park '91, I missed that as i was travelling in bloody Zimbabwe at the time which hasn't exactly improved since then, unlike our club which certainly has. This happened because of -dare I say it- Harry Redknapp, as well as Tony Carr and the youth team set up. However not ready to have him back (too much bagpuss baggage) but would like to see AC and Nani build up a (fit) squad over a few seasons. Keep the faith and Come on you Irons!

[EastSaxCol]

As for Villa Park '91, I missed that as i was travelling in bloody Zimbabwe at the time which hasn't exactly improved since then, unlike our club which certainly has. This happened because of -dare I say it- Harry Redknapp, as well as Tony Carr and the youth team set up. However not ready to have him back (too much bagpuss baggage) but would like to see AC and Nani build up a (fit) squad over a few seasons. Keep the faith and Come on you Irons!

Tch. Tch. I've heard some feeble excuses for missing matches before -- but only being 5,000 odd miles away takes the biscuit.

Anyway. There's no way that Harry would come back anyway, even his sacking is still shrouded in mystery really. Any possible reasons that I've heard re. his nephew or whoever has all been lifted from West Ham websites. Still, the tag 'bungpuss' sticks and it all remains to be seen.

I think that there's a fair chance that Nani will help build a squad and help guide Curbs. Especially into the European market, where Curbs seems loath to venture. Once bitten ? Although to be fair, I've heard some glowing reports about Faubert from those sad individuals who actually turn up at Chadwell Heath to watch the training.

But this seasons consolidation is fair enough. And next season. ? Well, trying to end up above the Spuds again I guess.

[MSingh]

I'm gonna be bold & say we have to get rid of him in the Summer, if not for the unentertaining Football that his teams play, then for the completely inept Medical Team that he has assembled at the Club, it really, really is beyond a joke now.

Quote from WHO

I'm always dissappointed to lose, even at Anfield, and last night was frustrating on the attacking side, especially as we started off well, playing good football with some nice exchanges - it was depressing to see it all turn to crap after the first hallf hour. We defended well though, and were only undone by an excellent build up and an equally excellent finish.

Small picture, let down. Sort it out, Curbishley.

Big picture, safe by Easter. Well done Curbishley, this season is a marked improvement on last year's near death experience. A similar improvement next season will keep me happy. Safe by New Year's Day would be nice.

Steady as she goes, Hammers!

I think that this just about sums up my present attitude, tbh.

There is no doubt that it was great to be safe when we were, no doubt. But i have been bored watching West Ham more times this Season that i have in any other year of my life & that, for me, is unacceptable.

The Post that you've took from WHO which you say sums up your feelings basically says that they/you'd accept another Season like this one with similar improvement, but how can they/you even think that Curbishley can improve on this year as this year has been sooooooooooo Curbishley it is untrue ?

On what Grounds does anyone have that they think Curbishley could improve on thsi year judging by this year, the injury situation ( which in my eyes is the basis for Sacking him on it's own ) & his previous track record ??

Check this out from KUMB, ring any bells Gents ??

http://www.cafc.co.uk/PlayerDisplay.ink?se...mp;squadno=4868

Fortune broke into the Charlton first team during 2001/02, making the most of the club's early-season injury crisis, and scored in the 2-0 home win over Port Vale in the Worthington Cup.

http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2004/...ry896998309.asp

CHARLTON'S injury crisis has persuaded manager Alan Curbishley to ask for cash to splash.

The Addicks boss is frequently without half-a-dozen regulars, several of whom are defenders, so plans to recruit a new backline man in the transfer window.

Curbishley has confirmed he is monitoring Ajax centre-back Petri Pasanen. (2004)

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...sen-502196.html

After spending a hectic summer recruiting new faces, Alan Curbishley is hoping his best laid plans are not scuppered by a severe injury crisis just days before the start of the Premiership season. (2005)

Just from a quick search. Seems he had his problems.

Paragraph towards the bottom sums it up:

http://www.cafc.co.uk/newsview.ink?newstype=n&nid=30995

Across the river former Charlton sports scientist Nick Davies, first-team physio George Cooper, reserve-team physio Dave Singleton and masseur Darren Page are all now working for West Ham. They join ex-Addicks kitman Steve Rigby and reserve-team coach Glynn Snodin at Chadwell Heath, the latter last month being named first-team coach following a stint at Southampton.

& lastly.........

The last article from the Independent is really telling - "I'll probably have a better idea on Wednesday once we see how some of the injured players are progressing," Curbishley said. The Addicks manager added: "I am concerned about the injuries because I could have done without such a long list at this stage in our preparation. I think most clubs would class it as having an injury crisis if seven or eight players were out."

I think this will cast a new light on Curbs for me. He fired all of Pardew's appointed sports scientists for his old Charlton mates. Oh dear!

Edited April 10, 2008 by MSingh

[mark100]

l've resisted putting any posts on the forum lately because l felt everyone was to pro Curbishley, but now it seems you're all waking up to his obvious limitations !!!!!!! He did a good job to steady the ship, no question of that, but now he's lost in mid - table without a clue !! lf you listen to any of the last 4 weeks press releases is the same quote " we should have done better " well there comes a time when should becomes did do better.

The man has very limited tatical ability, l know many of you will disagree with me but as l have already mentioned in previous posts this one up front system has got us nowhere, we don't have one player in double figures for goals this season, we've never looked like scoring 2 goals in a game apart from maybe Derby !!

Faubert said it in the french press the other week, the team do not prepare tactically for games, admittely he attempted to retract this later !!

But his biggest shortfall his is lack of man-mangement skills, he has none. l have it on good authority he is not a popular figure in the dressing room, now l know managers don't have to be liked, but they have to manage and get the best out of players, and the is where Harry Redknapp was so good, unfortunately Harry wasn't to clever at keeping his fingers out of the honey pot !!!!

l don't get to that many games now because of the obvious, but l feel really sorry for the loyal fans that turn up week in week out, they deserve better than Alan Curbishley can offer.

[MSingh]

Another hugely entertaining performance..

[keddy]

Another hugely entertaining performance..

If you think we're suffering cast your weary eyes over our next opponents. Mind you I wouldn't be surprised if they turned in their one and only good performance of the season at the Boleyn next weekend.

[MSingh]

Another hugely entertaining performance..

If you think we're suffering cast your weary eyes over our next opponents. Mind you I wouldn't be surprised if they turned in their one and only good performance of the season at the Boleyn next weekend.

I'm absolutely dreading it Keddy..

[mark100]

I'm gonna be bold & say we have to get rid of him in the Summer, if not for the unentertaining Football that his teams play, then for the completely inept Medical Team that he has assembled at the Club, it really, really is beyond a joke now.

Quote from WHO

I'm always dissappointed to lose, even at Anfield, and last night was frustrating on the attacking side, especially as we started off well, playing good football with some nice exchanges - it was depressing to see it all turn to crap after the first hallf hour. We defended well though, and were only undone by an excellent build up and an equally excellent finish.

Small picture, let down. Sort it out, Curbishley.

Big picture, safe by Easter. Well done Curbishley, this season is a marked improvement on last year's near death experience. A similar improvement next season will keep me happy. Safe by New Year's Day would be nice.

Steady as she goes, Hammers!

I think that this just about sums up my present attitude, tbh.

There is no doubt that it was great to be safe when we were, no doubt. But i have been bored watching West Ham more times this Season that i have in any other year of my life & that, for me, is unacceptable.

The Post that you've took from WHO which you say sums up your feelings basically says that they/you'd accept another Season like this one with similar improvement, but how can they/you even think that Curbishley can improve on this year as this year has been sooooooooooo Curbishley it is untrue ?

On what Grounds does anyone have that they think Curbishley could improve on thsi year judging by this year, the injury situation ( which in my eyes is the basis for Sacking him on it's own ) & his previous track record ??

Check this out from KUMB, ring any bells Gents ??

http://www.cafc.co.uk/PlayerDisplay.ink?se...mp;squadno=4868

Fortune broke into the Charlton first team during 2001/02, making the most of the club's early-season injury crisis, and scored in the 2-0 home win over Port Vale in the Worthington Cup.

http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2004/...ry896998309.asp

CHARLTON'S injury crisis has persuaded manager Alan Curbishley to ask for cash to splash.

The Addicks boss is frequently without half-a-dozen regulars, several of whom are defenders, so plans to recruit a new backline man in the transfer window.

Curbishley has confirmed he is monitoring Ajax centre-back Petri Pasanen. (2004)

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...sen-502196.html

After spending a hectic summer recruiting new faces, Alan Curbishley is hoping his best laid plans are not scuppered by a severe injury crisis just days before the start of the Premiership season. (2005)

Just from a quick search. Seems he had his problems.

Paragraph towards the bottom sums it up:

http://www.cafc.co.uk/newsview.ink?newstype=n&nid=30995

Across the river former Charlton sports scientist Nick Davies, first-team physio George Cooper, reserve-team physio Dave Singleton and masseur Darren Page are all now working for West Ham. They join ex-Addicks kitman Steve Rigby and reserve-team coach Glynn Snodin at Chadwell Heath, the latter last month being named first-team coach following a stint at Southampton.

& lastly.........

The last article from the Independent is really telling - "I'll probably have a better idea on Wednesday once we see how some of the injured players are progressing," Curbishley said. The Addicks manager added: "I am concerned about the injuries because I could have done without such a long list at this stage in our preparation. I think most clubs would class it as having an injury crisis if seven or eight players were out."

I think this will cast a new light on Curbs for me. He fired all of Pardew's appointed sports scientists for his old Charlton mates. Oh dear!

Win 2-1 and get booed off against Derby, says it all really. Curbishley told the press on Saturday that the team managed the win despite the latest injury crisis, 4 more from last week, and that we should give him some credit for what he has achieved this season. The above post hits the nail on the head, the problems are the manager and the current backroom staff, and the training methods they are implementing.

l've talked about this in previous posts, my work as a personal trainer gives me an insight into the problems with the training methods at the club. Now l'm not at Chadwell Heath everyday to see what goes on, but something they are doing there isn't right because there are too many injuries to put this down to bad luck, although that is Curbishleys answer to the problem.

Now the sports scientist we had at the club during Pardew's reign was highly rated by people l have spoken to ( sorry can't remember the guys name ) but Curbishley changed all of this to do his old Charlton mates a favour and give them all jobs. Now was this in the best interest of the club? Did we have the injury problems at the club then that we have now?

Man Utd work with a team of people some of whom are attached to Loughbrough Unversity which is regarded as the top sports science unversity in the country. They also use cutting edge technology from a team of sports scientist called Peak Performance, and these guys really are at the forefront of everything new and innovative in the fitness world.

Wenger realised the importance of having these kind of people in his team years ago and stole a march on everybody, the days of fry-ups on match days are long-gone.

Now if West Ham are going to compete next year we have to address these injury problems at the club, and evaluate the training methods. ln short getting rid of Curbishley and his staff should do the trick !!

We used to be the academy of football, where are we now ???????????

[mark100]

Just had a look on ' Knees Up Mother Brown ' seems most of east London feels the same way l do about Curbishley, and especially the back room staff.

So here's a question for you, is the club better off now than it was under Pardew, have we moved in the right direction ????????????????

[keddy]

Just had a look on ' Knees Up Mother Brown ' seems most of east London feels the same way l do about Curbishley, and especially the back room staff.

So here's a question for you, is the club better off now than it was under Pardew, have we moved in the right direction ????????????????

While Alan Pardew certainly can do a post-match interview and is better at getting the fans onside, he doesn't seem to be able to put together sides that are consistant as is evident wth Charlton at the moment. Don't forget we just about scraped into the play-offs during the two seasons in the 'championship' and his last season was truely disastarous and I'm sure we would have gone down with AP at the helm, as did Charlton that season. So am I a Curbishley supporter? He's certainly a low key detached pretty down-beat personality but he seems better at motivating the players because of this. He's able to make unpopular decisions because he isn't as close to the players as Pardew was. I think Alex Ferguerson likes AC because he has that ruthlessness and he is clear about what he wants. Now at the moment this has been the negative 5 in midfield an but this has been forced upon him by injuries. He has tried putting Cole and Ashton together but it didn't work so there haven't been the options available though he has been bold enough to introduce Fred Sears into the team. So I think AC is the right man for where we are now in transition from last seasons relegation fight to mid-table. It's not pretty but there have been signs that he could build a decent team with a few additions over the summer. The sides that are doing pretty well like Everton, Villa and Blackburn have stuck with their manager and built a squad gradually. So I think its a bit unrealistic given the departure of Benayoun and Tevez, the injuries and constant changes in the line up to expect much more really. AP was a lot more fun but Curbishley is a proper manager that does the right thing more often than not. I do agree that the injury situation needs to be looked at but I think that the club are overhauling the department anyway. I think you have to give Nani time to develop the squad as well.

[MSingh]

Just had a look on ' Knees Up Mother Brown ' seems most of east London feels the same way l do about Curbishley, and especially the back room staff.

So here's a question for you, is the club better off now than it was under Pardew, have we moved in the right direction ????????????????

For me progress is all about stages..Ye we've improved under Curbishley & moved in the right direction, but under Curbishley we can not go any further & Curbishley's track record gives us no reason to believe so. We have made progress, stability & i thank Curbishley for that, but IF BG wants us to progress from stability & possibly go for a European place etc, then a change is needed..

It doens't matter what we think really, it's all about Mr BG..

[keddy]

Just had a look on ' Knees Up Mother Brown ' seems most of east London feels the same way l do about Curbishley, and especially the back room staff.

So here's a question for you, is the club better off now than it was under Pardew, have we moved in the right direction ????????????????

For me progress is all about stages..Ye we've improved under Curbishley & moved in the right direction, but under Curbishley we can not go any further & Curbishley's track record gives us no reason to believe so. We have made progress, stability & i thank Curbishley for that, but IF BG wants us to progress from stability & possibly go for a European place etc, then a change is needed..

It doens't matter what we think really, it's all about Mr BG..

Mr BG has been pretty anonymous so far unlike the Egg but I'm not sure if thats such a bad thing eg look at Learner and even Glazier, they seem to allow the manager to get on with it. I believe West Ham can be a huge club, especially with the whole area coming under development but it's going to take time and though pretty uninspiring at times AC is a safe pair of hands and can take us to the next level with the help of Nani. I'm still grateful I can continue to follow the team on the box in Thailand something that can't be done for 'championship' sides like Charlton and Palace, for example

[mark100]

Just had a look on ' Knees Up Mother Brown ' seems most of east London feels the same way l do about Curbishley, and especially the back room staff.

So here's a question for you, is the club better off now than it was under Pardew, have we moved in the right direction ????????????????

For me progress is all about stages..Ye we've improved under Curbishley & moved in the right direction, but under Curbishley we can not go any further & Curbishley's track record gives us no reason to believe so. We have made progress, stability & i thank Curbishley for that, but IF BG wants us to progress from stability & possibly go for a European place etc, then a change is needed..

It doens't matter what we think really, it's all about Mr BG..

Mr BG has been pretty anonymous so far unlike the Egg but I'm not sure if thats such a bad thing eg look at Learner and even Glazier, they seem to allow the manager to get on with it. I believe West Ham can be a huge club, especially with the whole area coming under development but it's going to take time and though pretty uninspiring at times AC is a safe pair of hands and can take us to the next level with the help of Nani. I'm still grateful I can continue to follow the team on the box in Thailand something that can't be done for 'championship' sides like Charlton and Palace, for example

l think Eggy raised expectation levels at the club and failed to deliver, putting Neill and Lazyberg on 60 or 80 grand a week ( l doubt we will ever know the true figures involved ), did nothing but destablize the club. Dean Ashton must be choking on his pies to know Freddie gets nearly 4 times what he does in a week !!!!!!!

There is talk in the papers of a clearout this summer, hopefully that will include Freddie and Boa-Morte, seems the chairmans bank has been hit by the credit crunch

l think possibly the credit crunch could be convenient for Mr Gudmundsson because after the mess Eggy left him with, and the money wasted on players who are now injured, l think his love affair with the Boleyn isn't what it was when he took over.

The honest truth is we are a miles away from being a top side, the new ground with the increased capacity would help but the investment required to take there is possibly more than our chairman could swallow right now.

Now l think we will see BG take a more active role to protect his investment, starting with the summer clearout.