Boundary/Perimeter Wall or fence

[alaninlamphun]

Good afternoon all, we have approx 200m of boundary that I would like to make more secure from the neighbours pets.For the last 10 years or so we have periodically replaced the fencing using the standard bamboo panels.

I think we are ready to make a solid block and sharp wall, has anyone got any reasonable alternatives? I did see something about chain link fencing a while back but cant find it now.

Approx 200m required in rural Lamphun.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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[kannot]

[Kwasaki]

Riding & driving in and around Lamphun recently and many other areas saw a great variety and styles of perimeter fencing, enquire locally at a building supply store.

 

Chain link and concrete posts are least inexpensive for a reasonably sound fence.

If you decide this, make sure the intermediate ground sections of chain link are ground staked well, the bloody dogs will find a way otherwise.  

[keeniau96]

Our local golf course (Loch Palms in Phuket) has a very long perimeter exactly same as in photo by kannot. Has been in good shape for about 3 years now. Our own wall is cement pillars about 40x40 cm cement/rebar pillars with a massive horizontal beam tying from pillar to pillar. another cross beam at 120 cm with space between filled by cement blocks. Above the top beam is a wrought iron fence bringing the entire wall to 2 m. About half of the perimeter wall is also a retaining wall with lateral stabilizing anchor bars anchored in trenches and cover. All has been stable for over 7 years now.

[alaninlamphun]

Riding & driving in and around Lamphun recently and many other areas saw a great variety and styles of perimeter fencing, enquire locally at a building supply store.
 
Chain link and concrete posts are least inexpensive for a reasonably sound fence.
If you decide this, make sure the intermediate ground sections of chain link are ground staked well, the bloody dogs will find a way otherwise.  

I would love to enquire locally at a building store but I'm still in England for a while.


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[tso310]

Will be starting ours in a couple of weeks. Will probably look like Kannot's. That type of wall if built properly will keep anything out and last a long time. Make sure you find a decent builder to erect it. To be fair the dogs only steal my wife's shoes and leave mine alone.

Edited December 29, 2016 by tso310

[kannot]

21 minutes ago, tso310 said:

Will be starting ours in a couple of weeks. Will probably look like Kannot's. That type of wall if built properly will keep anything out and last a long time. Make sure you find a decent builder to erect it. To be fair the dogs only steal my wife's shoes and leave mine alone.

My advice ..before they drop in the panels  check everyone, at least 60%+ of  mine were damaged and i rejected them, the workers wanted to "fix" them.

[Hutch68]

4 hours ago, kannot said:

My advice ..before they drop in the panels  check everyone, at least 60%+ of  mine were damaged and i rejected them, the workers wanted to "fix" them.

I bet you was popular on that day.

[kannot]

3 hours ago, Hutch68 said:

I bet you was popular on that day.

cost about 600k, when its their  money they can call the shots, the guy was  almost crying, the reason they were so damaged was because in their wisdom to screw a few  more baht out of the job for  they decided rather than let the factory deliver them they would do it themselves..........needless to say clumsy and lazy were two  words Id use to describe them moving those panels around................tough titty .I dont care

[Kwasaki]

19 hours ago, kannot said:

My advice ..before they drop in the panels  check everyone, at least 60%+ of  mine were damaged and i rejected them, the workers wanted to "fix" them.

 

For the OP's budget option out of interest how much is each panel because chain link is cheap and just as gooda fence if correctly installed.  

[kannot]

5 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

 

For the OP's budget option out of interest how much is each panel because chain link is cheap and just as gooda fence if correctly installed.  

honestly cant remember, chain link WILL be cheaper but his  post  just said "open to suggestions"  or such  like. I think it was about the same price overall as  a  block and column rendered  wall but I liked  the look better and no painting etc + easily replaced if some imbecile drives into it

[localczar]

contact donald trump, perhaps he can advise you.

[grollies]

40m long butressed retaining wall using CCP 390x195x195 hollow block. Render and skim finish.

 

Foundation 500x300 reinforced concrete.

 

Coping bespoke mold with drip edging.

 

Cost 2,000THM/m labour and materials.

 

 

[kannot]

On 12/30/2016 at 2:12 PM, Kwasaki said:

 

For the OP's budget option out of interest how much is each panel because chain link is cheap and just as gooda fence if correctly installed.  

found an estimate, youll have to read Thai, all the pieces listed here I think

[grollies]

1 hour ago, kannot said:

found an estimate, youll have to read Thai, all the pieces listed here I think

My Thai pretty non-existent but from what I can gather this fence in 2 sections, 1 section 2m high x 244m length, 2nd section 2.25m high x 62m length. Total length 306m.

 

Materials 590,563THB

Labour 148,300THB

 

So total for 306m 738,863THB = 2,414THB/m

 

I'd get the wife to translate individual material prices but she can't be arsed. 

[Hutch68]

1 hour ago, grollies said:

My Thai pretty non-existent but from what I can gather this fence in 2 sections, 1 section 2m high x 244m length, 2nd section 2.25m high x 62m length. Total length 306m.

 

Materials 590,563THB

Labour 148,300THB

 

So total for 306m 738,863THB = 2,414THB/m

 

I'd get the wife to translate individual material prices but she can't be arsed. 

I built a nice 2 bed bungalow for less than half that price with a 2m wall all around.

[grollies]

2 hours ago, Hutch68 said:

I built a nice 2 bed bungalow for less than half that price with a 2m wall all around.

Fair enough.

[Kwasaki]

4 hours ago, grollies said:

My Thai pretty non-existent but from what I can gather this fence in 2 sections, 1 section 2m high x 244m length, 2nd section 2.25m high x 62m length. Total length 306m.

 

Materials 590,563THB

Labour 148,300THB

 

So total for 306m 738,863THB = 2,414THB/m

 

I'd get the wife to translate individual material prices but she can't be arsed. 

 

Go chain link & concrete posts  full stop, easy , good & no aggro IMHO.

[Hutch68]

8 hours ago, grollies said:

Fair enough.

Sorry I'm dyslexic and have the attention span of a gnat I thought I saw a rat instead it was a cat I had it built for about that.

[kannot]

14 hours ago, grollies said:

My Thai pretty non-existent but from what I can gather this fence in 2 sections, 1 section 2m high x 244m length, 2nd section 2.25m high x 62m length. Total length 306m.

 

Materials 590,563THB

Labour 148,300THB

 

So total for 306m 738,863THB = 2,414THB/m

 

I'd get the wife to translate individual material prices but she can't be arsed. 

The  walls  all the same height that may be different post heights, we didnt pay 738k that was his "starting" price, it was  650k when it was finished, its  all 8 panels high about 2metres so was about 2100baht metre same as a block n render  wall at the time I also added  more concrete to the footings.actually now i think back it was less than 650k "originally" but the ground here is  full of stone and  I mean they  could be 1-2 metres across so we had to change the  footing design completely, the original plan was to use an auger and bore down 2  metres............that went out the window on day ONE and upped  the cost to the 650k 

Edited January 13, 2017 by kannot

[kannot]

10 hours ago, grollies said:

Fair enough.

I built  two house for less than that  one 500k one 150k  also, the point is I like this type  of wall and you arent going to make those  panels  yourself unless you have the molds and lot of time + we have 15  rai of land to deal with.............the concrete road around the land cost another 650k also which gives you an idea of the size of it and we  bought the concrete direct

[grollies]

8 minutes ago, kannot said:

I built  two house for less than that  one 500k one 150k  also, the point is I like this type  of wall and you arent going to make those  panels  yourself unless you have the molds and lot of time + we have 15  rai of land to deal with.............the concrete road around the land cost another 650k also which gives you an idea of the size of it and we  bought the concrete direct

I like your wall too as a perimeter wall. I'm not sure the OP wants to spend upwards of 400K but he did ask for options.

 

Mine is a decorative wall round 2 sides of the pool. I wouldn't build a perimeter wall like mine or yours where I am, too expensive but I would around a small plot.

 

We have post and barbed wire. Doesn't keep the neighbours dogs out, I leave that to our dogs.

[kannot]

2 minutes ago, grollies said:

I like your wall too as a perimeter wall. I'm not sure the OP wants to spend upwards of 400K but he did ask for options.

 

Mine is a decorative wall round 2 sides of the pool. I wouldn't build a perimeter wall like mine or yours where I am, too expensive but I would around a small plot.

 

We have post and barbed wire. Doesn't keep the neighbours dogs out, I leave that to our dogs.

 Oh I could have done it a lot cheaper myself with one helper mixing concrete etc me laying blocks in block and column construction followed  by  paint and render but I was in the  middle of building TWO house myself and I mean "alone" no help at all with that + I never wanted to keep  painting a  wall and I like the modern look with the classical Thai tops  on but here a lot of the problem is the sheer  scale of the land and occasionally  I have to get help with "big" jobs  like that.

If  the guy wants cheap he can  just do the chaink link as mentioned but id get  bigger  posts than the ones Ive seen around here which would snap if you farted on them

[Hutch68]

1 hour ago, kannot said:

I built  two house for less than that  one 500k one 150k  also, the point is I like this type  of wall and you arent going to make those  panels  yourself unless you have the molds and lot of time + we have 15  rai of land to deal with.............the concrete road around the land cost another 650k also which gives you an idea of the size of it and we  bought the concrete direct

You did well there and the wall looks good but why 2 houses?

[AJBangkok]

20 hours ago, grollies said:

40m long butressed retaining wall using CCP 390x195x195 hollow block. Render and skim finish.

 

Foundation 500x300 reinforced concrete.

 

Coping bespoke mold with drip edging.

 

Cost 2,000THM/m labour and materials.

 

 

 

When you say cost 2000THM/m do you mean 2000 baht per running meter so it's total is 80 x 2000 = 80,000 baht or 2000 baht per square meter so if the wall is 2m high it would be 80 x2 x2000 = 160,000 baht? 

[grollies]

32 minutes ago, AJBangkok said:

 

When you say cost 2000THM/m do you mean 2000 baht per running meter so it's total is 80 x 2000 = 80,000 baht or 2000 baht per square meter so if the wall is 2m high it would be 80 x2 x2000 = 160,000 baht? 

Sorry, per linear metre. Wall is 1.5m on low side, 1.0m on the other. Total 80,000THB

Edited January 13, 2017 by grollies

[grollies]

On 28/12/2016 at 11:04 AM, Kwasaki said:

Riding & driving in and around Lamphun recently and many other areas saw a great variety and styles of perimeter fencing, enquire locally at a building supply store.

 

Chain link and concrete posts are least inexpensive for a reasonably sound fence.

If you decide this, make sure the intermediate ground sections of chain link are ground staked well, the bloody dogs will find a way otherwise.  

Not too sure about chain link perimeter fencing on reflection.

 

I think rather than staking the fence at ground level you'd be better with a 200 deep x 75 wide shuttered base between posts to fix in the chain link below ground.

 

All chain link will rust or the plasti-coated stuff colour will fade over time.

 

Clearing of weed & vines could become a headache.

 

Better with a concrete wall IMHO but some of them just need a couple of guard towers and the place ends up looking like Stalag Luft 17.

Edited January 13, 2017 by grollies

[Kwasaki]

36 minutes ago, grollies said:

Not too sure about chain link perimeter fencing on reflection.

 

Yeah agree with your points.

l was laying out a quick fix and reasonable secure cheap way of fencing off a house boundary.

 

We have concrete block painted wall side back of our house and metal fences & gates at front.

Our bit farmland was just initially fenced off with barbed wire & concrete posts and l put one metre high chicken wire all around the bottom to stop dogs and it works well.

 

[bankruatsteve]

Perhaps the cheapest perimeter "fence" is the simple hedge.  If planted correctly, it makes a very resistant barrier to dogs, chickens, and people within a year and resists erosion.  Granted, it can be a bitch to maintain with the trimming required, but with the right tools it's not too painful.

[grollies]

35 minutes ago, bankruatsteve said:

Perhaps the cheapest perimeter "fence" is the simple hedge.  If planted correctly, it makes a very resistant barrier to dogs, chickens, and people within a year and resists erosion.  Granted, it can be a bitch to maintain with the trimming required, but with the right tools it's not too painful.

Good idea and you could always find someone to cut it for you.