Pattaya Go-Go clubs and bars targeted in new crackdown

[Shaunduhpostman]

Ditto to many of the comments above, this is about tightening the screws on the bars in terms of getting more money. It won't mean that many bars will be replaced with knick knack shops or what have you. I would bet even with their licenses revoked they could continue given they paid the authorities off. The 6 pm opening times could also be ignored but the fines would be another corrosive element. I can see that this would all lead to a gradual erosion of Pattaya the party zone, but there is nothing drastic being suggested by 6 pm closing times and no more new licenses. You have to wonder how many places actually have licenses anyway. You also have to wonder if the police really understand that they are in danger of killing their golden laying goose with each added layer of fines and hassles. Fewer bars will leave them fewer places to collect "fines" from.

Edited June 18, 2017 by Shaunduhpostman
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[Kabula]

Sin city reforms to w@nk@r city!

 

More job losses and more crime...

[slippery snake]

Haha   Somewhere has to be the sex capitol of the world,, they need to promote it more,,  Get more tourists coming for sex and everyone will be happy.. the bar owners,  working girls,   restaurants, etc etc.   There are hundreds of family towns and cities  that families can go to now..   and no one goes there for the beach that's for sure,   as that is one of the worst beaches I have ever been to.....

Get real Pattaya,, you have something to be world famous for,, use it.. and everyone likes sex,, well everyone except my ex wife..  haha.  

[Ratcher]

They also want to start cracking down on the prostitues in Bangkok, Phuket etc.  Sex tourism is no good for Thailand it breeds crime and corruption. There are plently of available beautiful ladies who work hard at real jobs in Thailand. Bar Girls are bone idle and lazy. Time there was a real big move to stamp out prostitution in Thailand. Let the sex tourists go to other countries in S.E. Asia.

[NoshowJones]

2 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

I can understand it, but I don't understand it. Pattaya was and is and could continue to be a huge money maker for everybody.  Just call a spade a spade and let things be like they were in oh I would say 2004 or 2005.  Soi 6 was a fine place for a quiet break from the afternoon heat, as was the welcom inn a few sois over.  Why in the world are they making the place so less friendly for so many people that would go there?

You can bet that the people who make these laws have plenty of money, if they relied on places like Soi 6 etc to help fill their pockets, it would

be an entirely different story.

[Destiny1990]

At least the buildings in soi 6 have titledeeds.

[dutchbull]

What will life be without soi 6 ...a waste !

[slippery snake]

1 hour ago, Thai Ron said:

So what? Better that than demean themselves sleeping with depraved farangs for 1000 baht.

really ?  most of the girls come to work because the families are so poor, nearly all the money they make goes back to support their families ans kids.. and there are no jobs for most of them, if they went back home.., 

Why do you think they came here ???

And depraved Farangs ??   Many of older ones have lost a wife through death or divorce and end up taking one of these girls for a wife.

Which is what most of the girls are  looking for... No different than any other girl working in a hotel, beauty shop, supermarket, etc etc.

And a girl can make 1000B an hour,   or chose to work 12 hours at a 'real'  job for 300 B  a day...   

[Khon Kaen Dave]

3 hours ago, keith101 said:

they will lose so many tourists the place will be like a ghost town and all the locals who rely on them for some kind of income may turn to crime which inturn will further decrease the number of tourists .

The voice of reason

[727Sky]

With all the headliners obviously directed at bars, girls dancing in shorts, and massage parlors I have to wonder if this country is converting to Islam or at least trying to appease the religion of pieces.. I hope the Chinese tour groups are paying well or otherwise they are putting another nail into the coffin of tourism..

[gios50hk]

3 hours ago, alfalfa19 said:

Yawn.  Time for another unofficial fundraising effort. 

Yup! Meanwhile - Pattaya continues to be a mecca for ruthless criminals, scam artists, con-men and a myriad other low-life scum......

[Thaidream]

This is part of the squeeze the authorities are putting on all  bars/clubs/GoGo's that sell sex.  The police are not the instigators- it is the Pattaya Administration which is military run. They do not care if all Western single tourists stop coming to Thailand. Their goal is to gentrify all the areas that attract people they do not want. Eventually, all these places will either go broke; close themselves; relocate or simply not have their permits renewed

 

Many people say it's not real but they are wrong- the Government does not like this type of business because what they sell is overt and gives Thailand a bad name by attracting criminals and other less desirable people.When it is over- most of these places will have gone out of business or relocated to the dark side or Jomtien and be more discrete. The powers that be see more money in Chinese tourism; Asean tourism and getting the middle class and Hi-so Thais to come to Pattaya. None of these groups want the current bars or would be customers. The investments being made in Pattaya and other areas of Thailand are in Malls/Shopping areas; boutique type shops and restaurants. 

 

In addition, you will also see the demise of Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy in Bangkok simply because these bars cannot afford to remain in that location and make any money and the owner of the land will take the investment money  and  sell out. It doesn't matter who has the Master lease or sub leases. It is the land owners who control everything.

[Thechook]

good move but they will never ever erase pattaya's reputation its ingrained.

[Khon Kaen Dave]

Will the last person leaving Pattaya, please remember to turn off the light.

[SpeakeasyThai]

This is all tickety boo Mr General, but what happens the the girls? Will they now be educated to a standard where they can go and gain a reputable job in society as result  to now being more or less rendered redundant? Nope.

Carry on building temples.

[jenifer d]

3 hours ago, ThaiTrav said:

Geez ........ I hope the daytime gentlemens clubs don't get targeted ,they too offer all the same services.  How can they expect the tourist dollar will increase??? Alls that will happen is these bars will go broke by not being able to meet their rents and leases ,what will they be replaced with ????? takeaway food ? t shirts shops? computer shops ? Bit discrimatory to target only soi 6 , least the place was sectionzed to that activity .  So what soi 7 next then the boys town gay area. Gotta luv these numbwits for upstairs for thinking . Theres huge aeroplane hanger style sheds behind big C in Naclua which conduct live on stage sex shows to the japanese and chinese tourists  who arrive in busloads....every night !!!!!! 2000b a viewing one would think that sort of thing would be more damaging to Thailands image than people having few drinks following a rubdown or some thai girl girating her hips on stage. If  anything the place is becoming more unwelcoming by the day ,.as if I woud let my kids play in the run down playgrounds that have much broken equipment and glass in the grass, swim in the highly polluted sea which the mayor openly acknowledges has more than 24000 cubic meters of effluent and waste pumped into it each month !!!! and lets go drive on the absolute lawless roads ?????lets better not even go there!!

any guess as to who owns the huge "aeroplane hanger style sheds"???

3 guesses, first 2 don't count... 

[Thechook]

9 minutes ago, 727Sky said:

With all the headliners obviously directed at bars, girls dancing in shorts, and massage parlors I have to wonder if this country is converting to Islam or at least trying to appease the religion of pieces.. I hope the Chinese tour groups are paying well or otherwise they are putting another nail into the coffin of tourism..

I think its trying to become more respectable and loose the title of the worlds biggest sleeze city.  It is known around the world for mothing more than sex tourists and prostitution.  They have an enormous task to rid the place of sleezy tourists and restore a little pride.  Will take a couple of decades but they have started and giving it a shot.  I say rip into the place and clean it up as it is dragging Thailand down the sewer.

[jenifer d]

21 minutes ago, slippery snake said:

really ?  most of the girls come to work because the families are so poor, nearly all the money they make goes back to support their families ans kids.. and there are no jobs for most of them, if they went back home.., 

Why do you think they came here ???

And depraved Farangs ??   Many of older ones have lost a wife through death or divorce and end up taking one of these girls for a wife.

Which is what most of the girls are  looking for... No different than any other girl working in a hotel, beauty shop, supermarket, etc etc.

And a girl can make 1000B an hour,   or chose to work 12 hours at a 'real'  job for 300 B  a day...   

well said...

[Brunolem]

Do they prefer tourists who actually go in the bars and spend, on average, 100 USD per day, or Chinese tours who only look at the bars, from outside, and spend, on average, 10 USD per day?

Instead of trying to transform Pattaya into one more soulless mom and pop beach resort, they'd better put it back as it was 20 years ago...

[Thechook]

7 minutes ago, SpeakeasyThai said:

This is all tickety boo Mr General, but what happens the the girls? Will they now be educated to a standard where they can go and gain a reputable job in society as result  to now being more or less rendered redundant? Nope.

Carry on building temples.

So you want to keep the girls as prodtitutes?  Is that genuine concern for them?

[Chivas]

Thaivisa rightly or wrongly have used the Soi 6 stock photo to highlight the thread and whilst that photo is light on girl numbers it highlights the skimpy provacative attire which in the past was behind the closed doors in soi 6. It wasnt in your face and frankly a family could walk the soi unknowingly and would see little. Now its in your face with the same facebook owners promoting no underwear parties etc etc etc.....

It draws attention to themselves and heres the end result sadly opening at 6pm. I liked the odd afternoon down the 6 always a good crack but at 6pm I'm always looking to move on and not start there. It may not last but you get the impression last 12 months times are changing so it just may be this time...

[just.a.thought]

Pattaya will not survive as a family/beach destination. Are they really so stupid that they don't know why people are visiting Pattaya.

who would want to go on holiday  in place where the party doesn't start until 6 pm when you can visit the neighbor country and party nonstop.

Edited June 18, 2017 by just.a.thought

[WhyYouTalkMeBad]

The T Q on beach Rd is about to make a killing

[Headphone Jack]

Daytime action in Cambodia? Ha ha ha ha.

[ThaiTrav]

5 minutes ago, just.a.thought said:

Pattaya will not survive as a family/beach destination. Are they really so stupid that they don't know why people are visiting Pattaya.

yep....afraid so!

[Chivas]

1 minute ago, just.a.thought said:

Pattaya will not survive as a family/beach destination. Are they really so stupid that they don't know why people are visiting Pattaya.

No they are not stupid but you need to understand that less (well less) than 1% of all tourists to Thailand come to Pattaya but the reputation (rightly deserved !) puts off millions of visitors who believe Pattaya is Thailand. Remove the blott on the landscape and perhaps Thailand gets 10 million more tourist visitors huge dollar income for the country compared to the miniscule amounts in comparison that come to Pattaya. In response to your post they have to start "somewhere"

[Mad mick]

2 hours ago, keith101 said:

they will lose so many tourists the place will be like a ghost town and all the locals who rely on them for some kind of income may turn to crime which inturn will further decrease the number of tourists .

You are exactly correct already started more than 1+ year ago war on farang visa' crack downs must have this or that flip flop gov jaunta  " criky u can even move around europe more more easily and enter easier than thailand not a 3rd world country's " thailand is slipping back to from 2 cnd world country + violence out of control via government policy's , look all property's up for sale everywhere , even philipines has become attractive again " the coup ok ! shinawatra clan had to go but know one thought this jaunta gov/coup were going dismantle the hole country bit by bit ! even poor young country singer has to do this or that "she copped it, criky silly puppet jaunta non elected coup priminister more worried about her pelvic thrusts than the decline of his country his mob r causing " look into a mirror 4 a reality check" bliamy get a life and set the people free , hes a prime example of many reasons why crime is rife " kwai jaunta ! no welfare to speak of ? mmm lets close all the bar's and really stuff everything up "  how are they going to feed thier 

family's ? " crime " . Never mind they blame us for not coming amazing thailand " Go Vietnam have a look " sadly thailand slowly closing down, go Burma or hot spot Vietnam + even Cambodia is ok sort of " 1 price for all 3 x 3 month tourist visas online vietnam , any of above country's do ! They want u to come not go away plenty of visa's to chose from or what u may need with no stress , apply for work visa easy if u want teach english etc open a business  , no crap like thailand flip flop jaunta government they dont want us , just quality Chinese 4 day group tourist who pay all there money in home country or lndians + u can put the ruskys in the mix 7/11 + family mart drinkers, go buy shares in 1 or buy one ! never empty .

 

 

[WhyYouTalkMeBad]

Thank you general….soi 6 is just grossly overpriced….used to be 700b all in for an onsite indulgence…..now the standard is 1000…..and even 1500.
 
hope this lowers prices back to normal levels.
 
 

Doesn't work that way. The price will jump another 50 % to compensate for lost business

[Thaidream]

They know why  people are visiting Pattaya and all the other spots that sell sex and these are the people that they are trying to get to go to other places like Cambodia or Vietnam. The powers to be believe if you get rid of the customers- there is no reason for the bars to exist or if you put pressure on the bars then the customers won't come. There is a direct correlation between the Visa/Entry crackdown and the  entertainment crackdown. This is the Thai way. Slowly but surely- they block the path by a means of less resistance and eventually they get their way.

[WhyYouTalkMeBad]

The jack o tar bar, the no hassle bar near the bottom of soi 6 is shuttered and a for sale sign on the door

Guess they saw this coming