rooster59 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Video: Coke truck piles into police checkpoint as driver claims "brake failure" Image: Thai TV Thai TV showed a dash cam video of a Coke truck slamming into a police checkpoint in Chumporn in Thailand's south yesterday. The truck was undertaking a line of vehicles stopped at the checkpoint. It slammed into a police car that was propelled into a van. One policeman was hurt as others dived for cover at 11am yesterday. Driver Suchart Chumprang said in dialect Thai: "The brakes just didn't work". But the presenters - and the skeptical police - pointed to the fact that the brake lights did not come on and there were no skid marks on the road surface. They suggested the brakes were only applied after the collision. There were marks on the road at that point, they said. Investigations continue. Source: Thai TV -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-02-03
Popular Post keith101 Posted February 3, 2018 Popular Post Posted February 3, 2018 i saw the brake lights come on just before the collision so not brake failure but another driver not paying attention to what's going on 12 2
Popular Post DipStick Posted February 3, 2018 Popular Post Posted February 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, keith101 said: i saw the brake lights come on just before the collision so not brake failure but another driver not paying attention to what's going on Brake lights are usually actuated by an electrical micro switch on the brake pedal, the brake lights activate electrically, The actual braking system is operated by either hydraulics or pneumatics and is totally independent of the electrical system, meaning brake lights do not show the braking system is operative. 4 1 2
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted February 3, 2018 Popular Post Posted February 3, 2018 For brake failure ....read 'Brain Failure '. 5 2
Popular Post Borzandy Posted February 3, 2018 Popular Post Posted February 3, 2018 In Europe we call this a "terrorist attack" 4
Popular Post giddyup Posted February 3, 2018 Popular Post Posted February 3, 2018 The brake failure excuse is now right up there with "the dog ate my homework". 7
PETERTHEEATER Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 For good measure this was a 22 wheeler tractor/trailer combination so plenty of mass to slow and stop especially if loaded with 'The Product'. Clearly NOT diet Coke.....
1337markus Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, giddyup said: The brake failure excuse is now right up there with "the dog ate my homework". Yep time they had a ban on this term brake failure for 3 months! 2
Popular Post Stokakrishna Posted February 3, 2018 Popular Post Posted February 3, 2018 let more trucks ram into the police checkpoints, perhaps they will stop doing it 2 3
Popular Post Briggsy Posted February 3, 2018 Popular Post Posted February 3, 2018 Texting or sleeping. I await the introduction of in-cab cams as can be found in the UK. Then you can see what the driver was up to prior to a crash. 3
Popular Post saminoz Posted February 3, 2018 Popular Post Posted February 3, 2018 3 hours ago, DipStick said: Brake lights are usually actuated by an electrical micro switch on the brake pedal, the brake lights activate electrically, The actual braking system is operated by either hydraulics or pneumatics and is totally independent of the electrical system, meaning brake lights do not show the braking system is operative. Wow that went right over your head huh? Dipstick (apt?). Did you watch the video? There is no indication of any attempt(intent?) to use the brakes until the truck actually hits the barrier (when the driver probably woke/sobered up), he hit the brakes then and the brake lights came on. The truck pulled up pretty quickly after that so I call foul on the driver's B.S. and foul on your sketchy knowledge. I hope you're not a vehicle technician, the forum handle suggests otherwise...... 7
Ulic Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 The driver saw one too many commercials in which cars had automatic brake engagement.
Popular Post DipStick Posted February 3, 2018 Popular Post Posted February 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, saminoz said: Wow that went right over your head huh? Dipstick (apt?). Did you watch the video? There is no indication of any attempt(intent?) to use the brakes until the truck actually hits the barrier (when the driver probably woke/sobered up), he hit the brakes then and the brake lights came on. The truck pulled up pretty quickly after that so I call foul on the driver's B.S. and foul on your sketchy knowledge. I hope you're not a vehicle technician, the forum handle suggests otherwise...... Oh dear wrong time of the month ? Menopause ? If you read what I said, perhaps you would understand ! The OP stated that it couldn't have been brake failure as he noted the brake lights illuminating, I merely suggested that brake lights do not indicate the brakes actually working. got it now or would you prefer another explanation.. I personally have no idea if the brakes worked or not and I am not trying to argue for or against. And yes I was involved with vehicles, both commissioning and training, such as these 2 1 4
RichardColeman Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 I'm sure his employment will have 'brake failure' when his company get the bill for the truck !
300sd Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 He stopped fairly quickly! Just not at the right place.
Hayduke Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Mechanical issues aside...trashing a police vehicle probably felt really good for at least a second or two. 2
Classic Ray Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 If there is one company’s trucks that will be properly maintained in Thailand, it is Coca Cola. Shame they can’t do the same for their drivers.
Popular Post Curmudgeon1 Posted February 3, 2018 Popular Post Posted February 3, 2018 2 hours ago, DipStick said: Oh dear wrong time of the month ? Menopause ? If you read what I said, perhaps you would understand ! The OP stated that it couldn't have been brake failure as he noted the brake lights illuminating, I merely suggested that brake lights do not indicate the brakes actually working. got it now or would you prefer another explanation.. I personally have no idea if the brakes worked or not and I am not trying to argue for or against. And yes I was involved with vehicles, both commissioning and training, such as these So eager to display your knowledge you missed the point? 3
Popular Post dunroaming Posted February 3, 2018 Popular Post Posted February 3, 2018 7 hours ago, DipStick said: Brake lights are usually actuated by an electrical micro switch on the brake pedal, the brake lights activate electrically, The actual braking system is operated by either hydraulics or pneumatics and is totally independent of the electrical system, meaning brake lights do not show the braking system is operative. You could clearly see that the truck was travelling at speed and when the driver braked which was the same time the brake lights came on. 3
DipStick Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, dunroaming said: You could clearly see that the truck was travelling at speed and when the driver braked which was the same time the brake lights came on. Thank you, a sensible response at last, 1 1
sweatalot Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Still anyone believing a Thai driver when he claims brake failure? 1
Prairieboy Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 19 hours ago, keith101 said: i saw the brake lights come on just before the collision so not brake failure but another driver not paying attention to what's going on Because the brake lights work doesn't mean the brakes work! 2
hobobo Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 17 hours ago, Borzandy said: In Europe we call this a "terrorist attack" And the driver would get 43 years free accommodation
Russell17au Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 There was no brake failure because that truck stopped pretty quick after hitting the barricade and the police vehicle. If it was a brake failure then a vehicle that size and weight would have kept moving long after it hit the obstacle irrespective of whether the brake lights came on or not, as DipStick said the brake lights are connected to the foot pedal and not the actual brake system but what DipStick failed to say was that to get the brake lights to come on you must put your foot on the brake pedal. In the video when the truck passes the car with the camera there are no brake lights showing on the truck which means no foot on the brake pedal. No brake failure just driver failure. 2
StefanBBK Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Because the brake lights work doesn't mean the brakes work!right. Me thinks working or not working aside, the driver hit the brakes far too late, judging by the lights. the fact that the presumably heavy truck got quickly to a halt, after hitting the barrier suggests to me that there was quite some brake function...Sent from my SM-G950F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1
Saraphee Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 2 hours ago, StefanBBK said: right. Me thinks working or not working aside, the driver hit the brakes far too late, judging by the lights. the fact that the presumably heavy truck got quickly to a halt, after hitting the barrier suggests to me that there was quite some brake function... Sent from my SM-G950F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app HaHa - More Brake function than Brain function!!
richard_smith237 Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Prairieboy said: Because the brake lights work doesn't mean the brakes work! The brake lights only came on a split second before impact. This would indicate that the Brake Pedal was depressed only a split second before impact and not earlier - thus indicating there was no attempt to brake until a split second before impact. Had there been brake failure the brake lights would be on, but the truck would continue to careen through the barrier. The Brake Failure excuse, as someone wrote earlier is the 'dog ate my howework' excuse for those juvenile face-saving minds who can't accept a responsibility for their own failures in causing an accident. This was clearly not brake failure and a couple of explanations as to how this could be brake failure are fundamentally flawed as the video clearly shows 'when' the brake pedal was depressed (i.e. a split second before impact and not earlier). Perhaps Dipstick & Prairieboy, you could explain how the brake lights came on just a split second before the impact and not much earlier. 1
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