Foreigner hangs himself, burns house down next to final message to wife: "You have stolen everything from me"

[Justfine]

1 minute ago, gbswales said:

I don't believe a word of this - handcuffs behind his back - not the normal way for someone to commit suicide. I hope the police will look beyond the obvious!

I don't believe there is a normal way. It's an irrational action.

[thaibeachlovers]

I'd like this thread to be pinned to the marriage and divorce subforum to warn others wanting to get married. Even if it just saved one farang, it'd be worth it.

I too lost almost everything to my ex and her horrible family, so I know how he felt.

[tim51]

5 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Hi Tim51..............that has been discussed on TV many times over and the fact is that although you may own the house, getting to stay/live in it is an entirely different matter esp if the g/f, wife and family want you gone.

 

Your life can be made a misery, so not a solution I'm afraid.

Xylophone,

Perhaps you have a point.  I am only talking legal rights, the legal right to own my house and live on my leased land until I die. 19 years in my beach house so far, no problems.  I also spent a lot of time getting to know my wife's family before marriage, speak and read the language, and owned my home long before  I met my wife.   Even though I was very careful in choosing my spouse, my wife now knows I have wills and things arranged in the event of my death, so that I am worth a lot more to my Thai family alive than dead, when my sister abroad will control most of my assets.   I get along great with the in laws, who happen to live 1000 km away.

 

"getting to stay/live in it is an entirely different matter esp if the g/f, wife and family want you gone"

Maybe, maybe not.    Unfortunately, my first Thai wife died in a car accident.  Her will left everything to me and named me as estate administrator.  Her family wasted money trying to get my house.  I won in court.  Minimal legal fees for me.  My ducks were in a row.  30 years in LOS without any misery,  so if my life is going to be made a misery it will have to happen soon.

 

As the OP said "Better safe than sorry."

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

6 minutes ago, gbswales said:

I don't believe a word of this - handcuffs behind his back - not the normal way for someone to commit suicide. I hope the police will look beyond the obvious!

That would only be a valid opinion if the house hadn't been burned down.

People hanging themselves secure their hands so they can't try to pull themselves up, and suffer longer. 

[overherebc]

30 minutes ago, Genericnic said:

She doesn't know how lucky she is. Back in the day when I practiced law, I had a few clients that would have taken her and her family out as he was leaving.

 

David

I was going to post something earlier on similar lines but initially thought better of it.

Why let the scammers/thieves still walk around and top yourself. 

Sit down do some planning and take them with you.

Not saying I would do it but I would understand it.

[bkk6060]

2 hours ago, Kerryd said:

And it is NO problem AT ALL to handcuff yourself behind you back. <deleted>. Years ago I used to do it quite often and practise opening them with a paperclip while watching a movie.

omg WOW.  Hey, good for you ......

What movie did you watch??

 

[Thaijack2014]

He was handcuffed with his hands behind his back and hanged himself? How bizar! Why would you handcuff yourself if you commit suicide?

[TKDfella]

1 hour ago, Ceruhe said:

Doesn't really matter, does it? Either way he didn't get the help he needed.

Er..not really my point. Did they think everything was okay? and if so, why?

Edited March 29, 2018 by TKDfella

[heroKK]

3 hours ago, InMyShadow said:

There is an easy test for farang to avoid a nightmare.

Ask your lovely where did she learn English BEFORE you get involved.

Is she covered in tattoos?

Easy for long term expats to spot but newbies have no idea

Best advice so far, it is the reason why I dont date any Thai women who speaks good English any more, huge attitude & behavior difference with non-speakers.

Edited March 29, 2018 by heroKK

[Aussieroaming]

RIP, I feel for the daughter

[Justfine]

5 minutes ago, Thaijack2014 said:

He was handcuffed with his hands behind his back and hanged himself? How bizar! Why would you handcuff yourself if you commit suicide?

As others have said think about it

[digger70]

8 hours ago, ThreeEyedRaven said:

That's pretty intense. Terrible that one can so lose control of ones senses and go to such sad and tragic extremes.

I hope he finds peace now.

He Didn't lose control of his senses,,, He Knew 100% sure what he was Doing,,,,, They took him to the cleaners and  He took all  what he could with him in the Fire,,, That takes Guts,,, 

[anon789561]

5 minutes ago, heroKK said:

Best advice so far, it is the reason why I dont date any Thai women who speaks good English any more, huge attitude & behavior difference with non-speakers.

guessing you don't speak thai. do you mime with them. so a thai who speaks english, ahh forget it. ridiculous

[Justfine]

Just now, Happy enough said:

guessing you don't speak thai. do you mime with them. so a thai who speaks english, ahh forget it. ridiculous

More likely to get scammed by non speakers as you can't communicate with them effectively.

 

 

[bkk6060]

13 minutes ago, Thaijack2014 said:

He was handcuffed with his hands behind his back and hanged himself? How bizar! Why would you handcuff yourself if you commit suicide?

You obviously have no clue or experience in this area.

I have a lot.

Sorry for the graphic details.

Stand on an object or chair above the ground.

Put a rope or similar object attached to the ceiling around your neck.

Handcuffing yourself is so easy not even a question.

Kick the object you are standing on and choke yourself to death.

Again sorry, but many people kill themselves in this manner very common.

 

PS:  To answer your question handcuffing means they truly want to die.  Don't want to try to save themselves...

 

Edited March 29, 2018 by bkk6060

[wvavin]

Very likely his life saving must have been squandered by this family. I am not surprised. Well, its too tragic that he had chosen this ending.

[anon789561]

2 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

You obviously have no clue or experience in this area.

I have a lot.

Sorry for the graphic detials.

Stand on an object or chair above the ground.

Put a rope or similar object attached to the ceiling around your neck.

Handcuffing yourself is so easy not even a question.

Kick the object you are standing on and choke yourself to death.

Again sorry, but many people kill themselves in this manner very common.

 

thats basically it right there. so sad 

[AGLV0121]

8 hours ago, JOC said:

Maybe, just maybe....he had a little help

 

Yes, so I am not the only one who noticed.

 

Does it make sense to climb a water tank, tie a rope onto one's neck, then handcuff oneself before jumping?

 

Why handcuff? Not to have the temptation to untie yourself? (if possible to untie oneself)

[Thaijack2014]

1 minute ago, Justfine said:

As others have said think about it

I'm thinking about it. To me it makes no sense. Anyway, what happened was tragic. How about this: I'm a wittness of a guy being ripped off. I don't like him, he's a loser anyway, brought me into some kind of trouble with his girlfriend, as he was turning my words against her and had a fight about me with her. The girlfriend is my wife's cousin and we know for a fact that she's a bloodsucker. If I would warn this man, we would be outcasted not only by the cousin's family, but also by others of the family as everybody is protecting that bitch. My wife said, she don't want to be involved with them anymore, I'm not welcome in her house as well. But this guy is paying everything. She's around 45, has a grown up daughter and he wants to marry her. They already made clear that he would pay a sinsod of 500.000 Baht. She's not worth 20 Baht. That's the kind of woman who would not shed a tear if she would ruin another person's life, same what happened to this man. We were not sure about it, but now this man went back to his country and I don't have any contact with him... otherwise I would warn him.

 

[maddox41]

Hand Cuffing your self before you jump smart man no way of changing your mind 

As for the wife and her possible Thai bf I'm sure they will complaining about how unfair it is to take all these things away  from her.

 

 

[anon789561]

2 minutes ago, AGLV0121 said:

 

Yes, so I am not the only one who noticed.

 

Does it make sense to climb a water tank, tie a rope onto one's neck, then handcuff oneself before jumping?

 

Why handcuff? Not to have the temptation to untie yourself? (if possible to untie oneself)

you answered your question

can't fight against it. quicker

Edited March 29, 2018 by Happy enough

[AGLV0121]

4 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

you answered your question

 

Not sure. But maybe. Smart in the final moments. And determined :-/

 

Edited March 29, 2018 by AGLV0121

[JOC]

51 minutes ago, jspill said:

Many grammatical errors in the note

 

- 'Eveything' should be 'everything'

- 'taken an' should be 'taken and'

- 'now you have all' should be 'now you have'

- 'exactily' should be 'exactly'

- Too many words use capital letters 

- The question mark is messed up 

He was probably British........That will explain it....

[Ivanovitch]

 

RIP

 

 

Edited March 29, 2018 by Ivanovitch
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[AGLV0121]

2 minutes ago, JOC said:

He was probably British........That will explain it....

OK I also notice misspellings, probably due to fast typing

Edited March 29, 2018 by AGLV0121

[anon789561]

Just now, AGLV0121 said:

 

Not sure

ok. if you had a plan as this guy unfortunately did. would you hang yourself knowing you could pull at the rope or whatever around your neck or would you make it quicker by cuffing yourself ensuring you go quicker. i would do exactly as this guy did.

[ajarnmarc]

3 hours ago, Happy enough said:

you need to talk to someone mate. maybe use the samaritans line they gave and take the other poster up on his offer. there's always a way. think things through but talk to someone, it really could help

Thank you very much.

I haven't seen the Samaritans line you're referring to, 

but I shall look through the thoughtful messages, 

that each of you took the time to post, 

as that's the least I can do in gratitude for each of yours time, 

as well as try to find out what options I have in this situation.

I must admit I do believe that if I stay anywhere near by, 

this lady will continue to make life as difficult as she can for me, 

and I doubt when the truck I will have to rent, is fully loaded, 

with what we have to take with us, that she will willingly allow us to pull away, 

without major issues...when I refer to us, I have to consider our children as well, 

as she has threaten multiple times to kill each of them,

claiming that she brought them into this world, 

so she has the right to take them out of it as well.

 

My response is that though we may have brought them into this world, 

it is God that blessed us with the magic of birth, 

and their great health,

so therefore it is only God who can decide how long they live in this World...

 

A decision which is for neither of us to decide,

yet we must provide for them as best we can.

 

She has all but broken my sons spirit with her daily rants, 

where he is constantly stating he's sorry for something.

 

I'm fortunate enough to be around and remind him that everyone might make mistakes, 

but it's the ones that are strong and honorable to admit to those mistakes, 

which make them a better person, therefore he needn't be sorry for everything, 

which his mother doesn't like.

She is simply troubled by the increasing pressures of the 

ever growing debt which she has placed upon this family,

through all her ill decisions since 2015.

 

She briefly felt that now that I became aware of the situation,

that she would be able to place the responsibility onto me,

to sort out, but I've been clear that I had nothing to do with it, 

and it was all for nothing really, as we always had work to support our life styles, 

hers just somehow grew beyond our income.

 

I have yet to find out why that became the case, 

since I believe this is a gambling / drug free house, 

so I therefore can't seem to figure out where all these funds were spent, 

though I have tried to understand, as I continue to process all that has happened;

Since I discovered this financial situation in October of 2017.

Believe me, it's been a grueling 6 months,

as I try to make something to go forward with nothing.

Our business is still running, though barely, 

it's just not enough to keep up with the bills she's made on her own, 

and these bills are tied unfortunately to our transportation.

I'm willing to let all that go, just for peace of mind, 

and safety for our children, it's just what protection,

and rights do I truly have within the Kingdom as it relates to our Children?

 

Last night she actually attacked our son,

and the result of me defending him, 

resulted in her visiting the hospital briefly.

Fortunately she only left marks on me,

which were visible, 

as I only pushed her off of him, 

and away from him, but somehow she tried to play she'd been injured.

She herself only knows how she felt inside,

and though it sadden me to have to be put in a position to defend what is supposed to be so valued within our family.

As the saying goes... things only get worse before they get better.

I can only hope it gets better before her or I make a serious mistake.

 

 

 

[Thaijack2014]

3 minutes ago, JOC said:

He was probably British........That will explain it....

Or he was trying to write in the kind of english his ex would understand... "tinglish".

[anon789561]

3 minutes ago, ajarnmarc said:

Thank you very much.

I haven't seen the Samaritans line you're referring to, 

but I shall look through the thoughtful messages, 

that each of you took the time to post, 

as that's the least I can do in gratitude for each of yours time, 

as well as try to find out what options I have in this situation.

I must admit I do believe that if I stay anywhere near by, 

this lady will continue to make life as difficult as she can for me, 

and I doubt when the truck I will have to rent, is fully loaded, 

with what we have to take with us, that she will willingly allow us to pull away, 

without major issues...when I refer to us, I have to consider our children as well, 

as she has threaten multiple times to kill each of them,

claiming that she brought them into this world, 

so she has the right to take them out of it as well.

 

My response is that though we may have brought them into this world, 

it is God that blessed us with the magic of birth, 

and their great health,

so therefore it is only God who can decide how long they live in this World...

 

A decision which is for neither of us to decide,

yet we must provide for them as best we can.

 

She has all but broken my sons spirit with her daily rants, 

where he is constantly stating he's sorry for something.

 

I'm fortunate enough to be around and remind him that everyone might make mistakes, 

but it's the ones that are strong and honorable to admit to those mistakes, 

which make them a better person, therefore he needn't be sorry for everything, 

which his mother doesn't like.

She is simply troubled by the increasing pressures of the 

ever growing debt which she has placed upon this family,

through all her ill decisions since 2015.

 

She briefly felt that now that I became aware of the situation,

that she would be able to place the responsibility onto me,

to sort out, but I've been clear that I had nothing to do with it, 

and it was all for nothing really, as we always had work to support our life styles, 

hers just somehow grew beyond our income.

 

I have yet to find out why that became the case, 

since I believe this is a gambling / drug free house, 

so I therefore can't seem to figure out where all these funds were spent, 

though I have tried to understand, as I continue to process all that has happened;

Since I discovered this financial situation in October of 2017.

Believe me, it's been a grueling 6 months,

as I try to make something to go forward with nothing.

Our business is still running, though barely, 

it's just not enough to keep up with the bills she's made on her own, 

and these bills are tied unfortunately to our transportation.

I'm willing to let all that go, just for peace of mind, 

and safety for our children, it's just what protection,

and rights do I truly have within the Kingdom as it relates to our Children?

 

Last night she actually attacked our son,

and the result of me defending him, 

resulted in her visiting the hospital briefly.

Fortunately she only left marks on me,

which were visible, 

as I only pushed her off of him, 

and away from him, but somehow she tried to play she'd been injured.

She herself only knows how she felt inside,

and though it sadden me to have to be put in a position to defend what is supposed to be so valued within our family.

As the saying goes... things only get worse before they get better.

I can only hope it gets better before her or I make a serious mistake.

 

 

 

The charity Samaritans is available around the clock for people who want to talk. 

 

If you or anyone you know is in need of mental health services, please contact the Samaritans of Thailand at their 24-hour hotline 02-713-6791 (English), 02713-6793 (Thai) or Thai Mental Health Hotline at 1323 (Thai).

 

http://www.samaritansthai.com/news/samaritans-of-thailand-english-hotline/

[GinBoy2]

I just read on Khaosod Thai, that he was identified as Mr Matthew White, 43, a US citizen.

He'd also written on the wall the names of his Mom, son & daughter back in the US.

Really tragic, but an all too familiar tale