Foreigner hangs himself, burns house down next to final message to wife: "You have stolen everything from me"

[JOC]

4 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Once again we are  provided with a short  recount of a finished event, but none of the information leading up to the event.  How many times does it need to be explained that one is not mentally stable if one chooses to  end his life in this manner, in a pathetic attempt to punish someone else? The assumption is made that this man was well balanced and sane. Sorry to say, but suicides of this just  kind are but just the final step in a long march of mental instability.The man didn't just go crazy over night and there is strong likelihood that the woman may have some painful episodes to share

Normally I like your posts....But this is not one of the better ones...

Easy to sit in your ivory tower in Hua Hin and judge others....

I agree, a mental stable person would not end his life in this fashion.......but the real question here is, what brought him to the breaking point ?

[sanemax]

6 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

They were failures in their homelands because of their behaviour patterns and when they came to Thailand, those same behaviour patterns caused their failure again.

Interesting, could you explain the behavioral patterns of the guy in question , both back home and in Thailand and why and how his behavioral patterns caused this occurrence ? 

[Destiny1990]

Looking back Maybe condo ownership was more suitable for him. 

[chrisandsu]

27 minutes ago, kannot said:

Similar to taking every fish out of the pond, theyll strip the pond bare if left to it, never  think to throw  back the  small fish

If anyone thinks that a Thai will leave a goose that keeps laying those golden eggs then they are deluded .they only leave when they either find a bigger goose who lays more eggs or the privious goose runs out of golden eggs . It’s that simple ! Just keep producing those eggs people and she will continue to love you ! 

[Kieran00001]

1 hour ago, NCC1701A said:

RIP.

 

Should be required reading for every man coming to Thailand.

 

I am sure he loved his daughter.

 

Then why didn't he go to court and get partial custody of the daughter instead of killing himself and leaving his daughter without a father?  Required reading for every man coming to Thailand should include their legal rights, rather than the sad outcomes of those who did not know their own.

[geriatrickid]

1 minute ago, JOC said:

Normally I like your posts....But this is not one of the better ones...

Easy to sit in your ivory tower in Hua Hin and judge others....

I agree, a mental stable person would not end his life in this fashion.......but the real question here is, what brought him to the breaking point ?

We do not know. What we do know is;

- Emotional distress that culminates in suicide is not a sudden event. It occurs over a period of time and often has signal events prior to the suicide.

- In the absence of knowing the person's mental health history, family situation, drug  including alcohol use patterns and criminal history it is  unfair to assume that the woman is responsible.  

 

Yes, it's fun for some to blame the Thai woman for the failures of the foreign male, particularly if the  people blaming have a history of failed relationships, but I suggest that it is prudent to wait for all facts to be established.

 

Does anyone know who this man was? Seriously? Was he nice guy or was he a brutal drunk or a mental case? My experience has been that there are  other factors involved and sometimes they are not pretty. No one sane kills himself over a domestic dispute. Thhre is always a long standing history of domestic abuse, or threats or confrontation prior. The former police officers on the forum will tell you that.

What I see here are people allowing personal bias to corrupt the process. Who is the deceased? The fact that no one may know him in Thailand suggests plenty.

[DavisH]

Where did he get handcuffs from? Any police in her family?

[jenny2017]

 How much do you know about the guy who committed suicide?

 

   Blaming Thais as usual without knowing any details. Perhaps he had some mental issues?  RIP, whatever happened to you. 

 

    Weird, that we don't even have his name, but so many people seem to know what a great man he was. 

Edited March 29, 2018 by jenny2017

[xylophone]

46 minutes ago, kalidescopemind said:

How do Thais still get away with this?    How can you buy a property that you can't have in your name, and not know you are being screwed?

 

Because it's love; they are different; she will love me long time..............endless promises that a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

 

RIP young fella.

[taipan1949]

1 minute ago, DavisH said:

Where did he get handcuffs from? Any police in her family?

Lots on beach ave for sale.

[stanleycoin]

28 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

The foreigners who do this think they are outsmarting the local yokels. The people who end up this way are sad to say, typically, life's losers. They were failures in their homelands because of their behaviour patterns and when they came to Thailand, those same behaviour patterns caused their failure again. Plenty of simple working people   have success in Thailand and it is because they keep it real, are grounded and are not given to fits of emotional outbursts.

You top dog you.

Showing your true colours now.  

[utalkin2me]

8 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

 How much do you know about the guy who committed suicide?

 

   Blaming Thais as usual without knowing any details. Perhaps he had some mental issues?  RIP, whatever happened to you. 

 

    Weird, that we don't even have his name, but so many people seem to know what a great man he was. 

You are absolutely right of course, and I have no answer as to how people reach their conclusions. In fact, what we do know for certain is he purposefully burned down assets that could have, potentially anyway, helped his daughter’s future. All to satisfy some sort of retributional itch he may have had. Not a check mark in his favor for sure. 

Edited March 29, 2018 by utalkin2me

[keithpa]

Let it lie, the poor man is dead. Keyboard warriors should find something else to occupy their bored little minds.

[Rally123]

1 hour ago, Rally123 said:

  2 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

But why neck yourself for this?

Cuz the writing was on the wall.

[Ceruhe]

32 minutes ago, JOC said:

but the real question here is, what brought him to the breaking point ?

Fairly easy. Indoctrinated gynocentrism and no self respect.

 

Most men don't know how to say "No" to a woman, and every time it happens, they dig their own grave 1 inch deeper.

[marko kok prong]

I am building a house at present,it is large and will probably come in at around 5/6 million baht. My Wife[my second Thai wife} does not have a big family unlike my ex,and they have never asked me for anything. I trust my Wife,but only up to a certain extent,i have told her if she ever tries to #&** me over i will demolished the house and another we own. I have plenty of money overseas,so whilst dissapointing it would not really affect me financially,i certainley would not kill myself,as another poster said never spend more than you can walk away from.

[RickTik]

Something doesn't seem quite right with this story.

Here are two quotes from the article: 

1. "... believed to have hanged himself in handcuffs ... " 

2. "He was handcuffed with his hands behind his back."

 

It sounds more like a planned mob "hit" than a suicide.

If it gets investigated, notes to investigators:

1. Look into her family members who might have "official connections".

2. Look into the victim's "replacement".

3. Did the house and vehicles have insurance?  If they did, who was the "beneficiary"? 

 

There's more holes in the story, but ... 

... sincere condolences to the victim ... 

. 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Quote

You and your family have stolen everything from me including my daughter and my life. Now you have all exactly as you wanted."

 

So how exactly does a farang married to a Thai woman here "lose everything"?

 

I'm guessing, and probably the case here, giving the wife significant money to buy/build a "family" house and/or land in her name -  since you as a farang can't own land in Thailand.

 

Please think carefully over those kinds of decisions.

 

[baboon]

14 minutes ago, JOC said:

What a depressing post....

You have no idea about this guy's life or the reasons behind his actions....

And still you have the nerve to call him a loser and a failure...

Shame on you...!!

Let us also bear in mind that friends and relations of the deceased may be reading this. We ought not to cause any additional distress to them.

[djayz]

2 hours ago, maxcorrigan said:

Very sad, at least he saw she only got the burnt relics of the house, car, and motor bike,

so he had something of a last laugh!

I can't imagine too many people having a "laugh" while they place the noose around their necks... 

 

It's sad to see people taking their lives because of others, arguements, divorce, etc. - it seems so pointless. 

 

RIP - what a pity your daughter will grow up without a father, won't have a father to give her away on her big day. 

 

It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light - Aristotle. 

 

 

[Justfine]

2 hours ago, maxcorrigan said:

Very sad, at least he saw she only got the burnt relics of the house, car, and motor bike,

so he had something of a last laugh!

Depends on insurance.

[metisdead]

Offensive posts and the replies have been removed. 

[crazykopite]

Very sad news RIP 

[Odysseus123]

3 minutes ago, metisdead said:

Offensive posts and the replies have been removed. 

Thank you.

 

RIP my man.

[bushwacker]

I'm thinking the wife and family would have preferred the house, motorcycle and car not burned.

Just saying.

[ajarnmarc]

My girlfriend since 2005, who I have two children with, has apparently decided to do something very similar to me.

We have a business we made together, yet the paperwork is in her name, since the company isn't a Ltd. just private owner business.

We bought a truck together, where I paid the initial deposit of 150,000 bht, and thereafter we paid the monthly payments together, yet when the truck was finally paid off in 2014, the misses waited just two months to go about taking out a private loan for 500,000 bht from a loan agency in 2015.

I never knew a loan had be placed against the truck, I believed it was paid off, until October of 2017, when the loan agency came to retrieve the truck. 

Loan agency informed me that most of the payments were made late, sometimes up to four months without making a single payment, so they were left with no options but to come to retrieve the truck.

As a result this 500,000 bht loan placed in 2015 against the truck I believed was fully paid off, is now not due to expire until 2020, at the earliest, for a 2010 model truck.

The loan payments on the truck is higher than we initially paid, when we originally bought the truck, but what makes it even worse, is the misses never invested the 500k she received from this loan, 

back into the family in any way, so there were no signs she had come into a large sum of money.

At one point in 2017, she decided since I had never found out about the loan she took against the truck, she would try her luck again, and take the Honda Forza to the bank to take out a loan against that. This I paid for in cash, yet the book was in her name, due to me not having a work permit at the time of purchase, I later had planned to place the Motorcycle in my son name, since he's now 11 years old.

After she fell behind in both the Truck payments and the Motorcycle payments, she decided to convince my son to open my safe box; he was the only one who knew the combination, in the event something happened to me. She took out all the gold garments I had purchased for myself during our relationship; the ones I bought for her, she had sold already.

Went down to the local gold store and sold everything, this all happened before the loan agency came knocking for the retrieval of the truck. 

I just never had any reason to put it all together, yet the pieces were slowing falling into place...

When I ask her what she did with all the proceeds from any of the moves she made, 

the responses were always meet with silence...no response at all coming, other than she knows she made a mistake.

I had very little, yet she has managed to take it all.

This lady was a room maid when I met her, I was the manager of the hotel she worked at.

She was hired as a part time staff, after we started to see each other after working hours, 

I spoke to a friend of mine who worked at another hotel near by, to see about getting this new interest in my life a full time position, so we might be able to pursue a long term relationship.

After she secured the new position, she proceeded to move in with me back in 2005.

 

Because we have so much time invested into this relationship, plus two children, 

and our business, it's hard to break free. Even as I try to make any new business or job of my own, 

she tries to find a way to lean onto that as well. Asking me for money to help pay her debts, or coming to my place of work, if I secure a position in the public sector.

 

At the end of the day, I too have thought about taking my own life, 

as it seems like I have no solutions to the problems laid out before me.

So I can totally understand this mans situation, and relate to his decision, 

as I attempt to remain strong for our children, but at times it's very hard indeed.

Edited March 29, 2018 by ajarnmarc

[Somtamnication]

Go out with a bang, is what I say. Sad for the daughter, though.

[Lemonltr]

There is  good reason for the well known expression 'Love is blind'. Romance with a 'knowledgeable' Thai, add  the land laws and these together with blind love is a recipe for disaster unless you are strong and aware.

I have heard too many distressing stories to relate. I hope this gets a wide audience in the foreign press.

What annoys me is that  (in the case of the UK) the Foreign Office will warn about tuk tuk and taxi minor scams but will deliberately? stay clear of housing scams which could ruin their nationals financially. 

[theguyfromanotherforum]

2 hours ago, Wilsonandson said:

Screenshots taken from a recent graphic youtube video.

 

It would have been more effective if written in Thai.

[Odysseus123]

13 minutes ago, ajarnmarc said:

My girlfriend since 2005, who I have two children with, has apparently decided to do something very similar to me. We have a business we made together, yet the paperwork is in her name, since the company isn't a Ltd. just private owner business. We bought a truck together, where I paid the initial deposit of 150,000 bht, and thereafter we paid the monthly payments together, yet when the truck was finally paid off in 2014, the misses waited just two months to go about taking out a private loan for 500,000 bht bank in 2015. I never knew a loan had be placed against the truck I believed was paid off, until October of 2017, when the loan agency came to retrieve the truck. 

Loan agency informed me that most of the payments were made late, sometimes up to four months without making a single payment, so they were left with no options but to come to retrieve the truck.

As a result this 500,000 bht loan placed in 2015, is now not due to expire until 2020, for a 2010 model truck.

The loan payments on the truck is higher than we initially paid, when we originally bought the truck, but what makes it even worse, is the misses never invested the 500k she received from this loan, 

back into the family in any way, so there were no signs she had come into a large sum of money.

At one point in 2017, she decided since I had never found out about the loan she took against the truck, she would try her luck again, and take the Honda Forza to the bank to take out a loan against that. This I paid for in cash, yet the book was in her name, due to me not having a work permit at the time of purchase, I later had planned to place the Motorcycle in my son name, since he's now 11 years old.

After she fell behind in both the Truck payments and the Motorcycle payments, she decided to convince my son to open my safe box; he was the only one who knew the combination, in the event something happened to me. She took out all the gold garments I had purchased for myself during our relationship; the ones I bought for her, she had sold already.

Went down to the local gold store and sold everything, this all happened before the loan agency came knocking for the retrieval of the truck. 

I just never had any reason to put it all together, yet the pieces were slowing falling into place...

When I ask her what she did with all the proceeds from any of the moves she made, 

it always responded with silence...no response at all coming, other than she knows she made a mistake.

I had very little, yet she has managed to take it all.

This lady was a room maid when I met her, I was the manager of the hotel she worked at.

She was hired as a part time staff, after we started to see each other after working hours, 

I spoke to a friend of mine who worked at another hotel near by, to see about getting this new interest in my life a full time position, so we might be able to pursue a long term relationship.

After she secured the new position, she proceeded to move in with me back in 2005.

 

Because we have so much time invested into this relationship, plus two children, 

and our business, it's hard to break free. Even as I try to make any new business or job of my own, 

she tries to find a way to lean onto that as well. Asking me for money to help pay her debts, or coming to my place of work, if I secure a position in the public sector.

 

At the end of the day, I too have thought about taking my own life, 

as it seems like I have no solutions to the problems laid out before me.

So I can totally understand this mans situation, and relate to his decision, 

as I attempt to remain strong for our children, but at times it's very hard indeed.

Up in Isaan where I was every single business that a foreigner financially contributed to-be it a bar,restaurant,coffee shop or 'Mom 'n Pop' store, ultimately failed.

 

Apart from the congenital problem of not being able to understand "net" profit,there was the horrendous problem of raising loans-not authorized by the foreigner-and the huge debt which ensued.

 

Like taking candy from a baby..

Edited March 29, 2018 by Odysseus123