kylep Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Googled and found this this site. Arrived on TG 627 yesterday afternoon from Tokyo. Had 4 previous 30 days exemptions (May 2017, Aug 2017, Nov 2017 and Jan 2018). Immigration officer scanned my passport, checked something on her screen and called someone. 2 guys came and looked at her screen for a while, then I was asked to follow them. They asked to see my ticket, what i was doing in thailand, why i was coming this time funds (i had $750 and jpy 28000). Asked where i stayed last year and what i did and what i planned to do this time. One of them checked my phone, went through my facebook app and saw a picture of me on a tuk tuk. At that time I asked a tuk tuk driver to take a picture of me on the driver seat. Now this caught the attention of the immigration officer and she said something in Thai to her colleagues who looked at the picture. They asked me if I owned the tuk tuk and if I was driving one. I explained it was a touristy kind of picture and nothing more but they just weren't convinced and went on and on trying to talk me into confessing. End of the day they denied me entry and after some delay was told i would i would be flying back on TG 642 today. Thai Air backdated my ticket from June 3rd to today. They held on to my passport. (is this allowed?) I have a ticket for Narita to LAX but that's not until the 4 of June with United. Now to my question. Upon arrival in Tokyo tomorrow morning, will i be allowed to reenter Tokyo or will they be informed about the denied entry in BKK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVUP Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 What nationality is your passport ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylep Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, BEVUP said: What nationality is your passport ? US (originally from a Caribbean country) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poohy Posted April 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) Sadly ! suspect the colour of your skin ( i am only surmising here dont be offended)had a great of bearing on the decision Edited April 14, 2018 by poohy 6 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaky Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Seems rather harsh, suvarnabhumi is not as stern as don muang, there has to be a reason other than the tuktuk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVUP Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I might be wrong but maybe OP is thinking that since he's been ejected by Thai Immi He might also end up the same way in Japan & may end up having to pay for a fare to his home country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaky Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Japan is visa free for us passport, might have direct the flight back home from there though as a return flight is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StayinThailand2much Posted April 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2018 25 minutes ago, kylep said: They asked me if I owned the tuk tuk and if I was driving one. Yeah, I see Americans driving tuk-tuks in Thailand all the time... Jerks! Tokyo Immigration shouldn't be a problem; perhaps you might have to explain that Thailand doesn't particularly like repeat tourists, esp. if the tourists don't have a prearranged visa. If it is within your budget, I would just spend a good time in Japan. Contrary to Thais, the Japanese are all very friendly and polite; even the Thais rave about that. And Japan is a beautiful country! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StayinThailand2much Posted April 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, poohy said: Sadly ! suspect the colour of your skin ( i am only surmising here dont be offended)had a great of bearing on the decision Together with the regular (mostly every 3 months) arrival, receiving a visa-free entry every time, I suspect... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, StayinThailand2much said: Together with the regular (mostly every 3 months) arrival, receiving a visa-free entry every time, I suspect... And does the OP have an onward flight ticket from Thailand? Any extensions on the 30 day visa exempt entries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylep Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, stevenl said: And does the OP have an onward flight ticket from Thailand? Any extensions on the 30 day visa exempt entries? No extensions on the previous visa exempt entries. I have a VietJet ticket to Vietnam on Apr 27, returning to BKK on May 2. They totally ignored it. Edited April 14, 2018 by kylep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Expatthailover Posted April 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said: Yeah, I see Americans driving tuk-tuks in Thailand all the time... Jerks! Tokyo Immigration shouldn't be a problem; perhaps you might have to explain that Thailand doesn't particularly like repeat tourists, esp. if the tourists don't have a prearranged visa. If it is within your budget, I would just spend a good time in Japan. Contrary to Thais, the Japanese are all very friendly and polite; even the Thais rave about that. And Japan is a beautiful country! Have you ever lived there? It is not known for its expat communities who are invariably business and diplomatic wallahs. It is a fiendishly expensive country to live in ( very much so compared to Thailand) and unless you are well connected and very very well off financially getting other than the odd tourist visa is next to impossible. Thailand is far from perfect but compared to most parts of the world it is Very affordable Very welcoming Reasonable infrastructure for a developing country with low tax revenue and rates. English language skills compare well with most developing asian countries except for maybe malaysia. As in most developing countries there is corruption, incompetence, waste etc. One cant expect to move from europe( uk etc) or usa and find the same lifestyle, facilities, amenities for a fraction of the cost of living . Not withstanding expats have contributed nothing to thai society Having more money than the average thai should not mean one is entitled to respect etc. If one does not like or respect where one lives there is always a choice. Each to their own etc Edited April 14, 2018 by Expatthailover 5 7 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 13 minutes ago, kylep said: No extensions on the previous visa exempt entries. I have a VietJet ticket to Vietnam on Apr 27, returning to BKK on May 2. They totally ignored it. Screw them! Spend the money in Vietnam or Japan. If they sent you back to Tokyo, why not buy an inexpensive ticket to Vietnam? Next time, perhaps get a tourist visa, just for peace of mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimman Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, kylep said: Upon arrival in Tokyo tomorrow morning, will i be allowed to reenter Tokyo If you have a "Refused Entry" stamp in your passport then you may well be refused entry to Japan. If that happens you will be sent back to Thailand where you will again be refused entry -- You should consider returning home 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StayinThailand2much Posted April 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Expatthailover said: Have you ever lived there? As I understand it, the OP doesn't want to live in either, Thailand, or another Asian country. And as for 'contributions of foreigners to Thai society' you mentioned, they don't want that! Contrary to other countries in the region, you as a foreigner, cannot even majority-own a company here. In Thailand you will always be just a tourist, even if you live here for decades, pay taxes, speak fluent Thai, do charity work, etc. The only foreigners who managed to be 'accepted' as equals in Thailand were Chinese 100 odd years ago. 13 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Swimman said: If you have a "Refused Entry" stamp in your passport then you may well be refused entry to Japan. If that happens you will be sent back to Thailand where you will again be refused entry -- You should consider returning home If that happens, you'll know soon enough. Then you won't have another choice than backdating your United ticket to LAX. Let us know; good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylep Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 The thing is I'm not detained. I'm allowed to roam freely in the transit area. Instructions are to be at the gate later this evening by or before 10 PM. Buying anything on duty free is not allowed. They want to see the passport and boarding pass which they are holding on to and I suspect they will only return to me either before I board or when I arrive in Japan. Yes, will update what happens tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sheryl Posted April 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, StayinThailand2much said: Together with the regular (mostly every 3 months) arrival, receiving a visa-free entry every time, I suspect... visa exempt entry at 3 month intervals with no extensions or overstays, and always entering by air, would nto usually raise an issue. It's the pattern of a frequent tourist not someone living in Thailand. If there were any extensions then that would change matters. Sorry to say, I do think racial profiling was at work here. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, kylep said: The thing is I'm not detained. I'm allowed to roam freely in the transit area. Instructions are to be at the gate later this evening by or before 10 PM. This is an improvement over the treatment of others. Sad story, though. Given what the OP probably spent here - multiples of an annual Thai salary - Immigration just forced another Thai business to close, and forced the family out of the middle-class and back to subsistence-farming. What a way to "help" their fellow Thais, eh? Edited April 14, 2018 by JackThompson 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolbeatz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) Are you able to fly to Laos, VTE and get a single entry tourist visa, then return to Thailand through the Nong Khai border? Would this be possible? Edited April 14, 2018 by oldskoolbeatz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVUP Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, oldskoolbeatz said: Are you able to fly to Laos, VTE and get a single entry tourist visa, then return to Thailand through the Nong Khai border? Would this be possible? That would depend on the Japanese Immi as he is now committed to being processed yet again by them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrendsd Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, oldskoolbeatz said: Are you able to fly to Laos, VTE and get a single entry tourist visa, then return to Thailand through the Nong Khai border? Would this be possible? The OP should ask them this, around 18 months a friend of mine was denied on a VE, he flew to Vientiene got a Tourist Visa and flew back and had no issues upon entry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolbeatz Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 To the O.P - Did they ask for your permission first if they could look into your phone before they searched your facebook photos? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phuketrichard Posted April 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2018 Quote .... Contrary to other countries in the region, you as a foreigner, cannot even majority-own a company here. HUH: as an American i can fully own my company, Be the director as well and dont need any thai's as shareholders either.. and there are other ways as well, if ur not American obtain a foreign business license or open a BOI company 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post overherebc Posted April 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, phuketrichard said: HUH: as an American i can fully own my company, Be the director as well and dont need any thai's as shareholders either.. and there are other ways as well, if ur not American obtain a foreign business license or open a BOI company Do you own your own company without any Thais involved or do you own/run a BOI company and how will that help the guy sitting in the airport? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saakura Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 24 minutes ago, phuketrichard said: HUH: as an American i can fully own my company, Be the director as well and dont need any thai's as shareholders either.. and there are other ways as well, if ur not American obtain a foreign business license or open a BOI company That is right. I know a lot of foreigners here who own big businesses and have majority shares in them, all BOI Companies. Maybe he is talking about a small minimart or bar type of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post overherebc Posted April 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, saakura said: That is right. I know a lot of foreigners here who own big businesses and have majority shares in them, all BOI Companies. Maybe he is talking about a small minimart or bar type of business. Are any of them any use or help to the OP sitting in the airport? 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post overherebc Posted April 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) Can anyone tell me where it was posted the OP has a business here? Having read through again I see someone mentioned something about a family losing it's income but a few have jumped on this and assumed. The OP has never mentioned being married and having a family or a business. Give it a break. Edited April 14, 2018 by overherebc 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 5 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said: . Contrary to Thais, the Japanese are all very friendly and polite; even the Thais rave about that. Ever been in Kyoto? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, overherebc said: Can anyone tell me where it was posted the OP has a business here? Having read through again I see someone mentioned something about a family losing it's income but a few have jumped on this and assumed. The OP has never mentioned being married and having a family or a business. Give it a break. Nobody said that. It was just an off topic post by phuketrichard and you replied to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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