"Lady boy doctor" tells tourist: Come back when you're dying! Google the meaning of ER"

[Fruit Trader]

30 minutes ago, balo said:

I don't understand this , it's a hospital , he has an ear infection , why was he sent to the ER and not one of the available doctors in the hospital ? 

That's a fair comment because the registration reception points you in the right direction and if out of hours often recommends you to return to see a day doctor if its not a real emergency.

 

Doc was on a short fuse, Surin girlfriend threw an Issan fit and it all landed on the news desk drama lama.

[champers]

From the thread title I surmised that, unless the Iranian wanted his meat and 2 veg removed, he was in the wrong department.

[Bob12345]

18 minutes ago, scorecard said:

In any event the doctors comments are way less than acceptable from a medical professional and the hospital should have regulations that no staff can talk to customers in this way, totally not allowed.

This is Thailand, thing work different than in the US where it would result in a lawsuit.

 

An older doctor at a rural hospital my wife used to work scolded a patient with every word he knew to tell him to stop smoking now that he had lung cancer. You might not think that is acceptable, but it was his last attempt to save the man's life. He could also just shrug it off and let the guy die, would that be a better way?

[flyingdoc]

Wrong department certainly, but handled in a tactless way.

[Acemaker]

4 hours ago, nausea said:

Well, I would have to agree that ER is not for ear infections, that's what outpatients is for; and whether the doctor was a ladyboy or not is irrelevant, IMHO. Still, could have been a little more tactful; maybe he/she'd just come off some real emergency, when seeing some guy with a relatively petty problem could cause you to snap, I suppose.

I think the comment come back when your Dying is the sore point here (No Pun intended ) 

[arithai12]

It was his Thai girlfriend who took him to ER, she who turned to reporters with this non-story, and she who had to remark that the doctor was a katoey. I can imagine that there was a verbal fight between the precious girlfriend and the doctor, with pride taking over logic.

 

 

 

[janclaes47]

3 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Maybe it was just "that time of the month"

Because a mentally challenged male thinks he is a female, doesn't mean there is a " that time of the month".

[jackdd]

My GF worked in ER before and for Thais it seems to be quite normal to head to the ER for minor things. Probably this doctor was not OK with it which i can totally understand.

In my understanding of ER this guy did not belong in the ER and the mistake was made by the nurse who sent him in the ER.

But the reaction of the doctor was of course way too harsh, the doctor should have simply instructed a nurse to take him to the OPD.

 

2 hours ago, essox essox said:

i once did take my Australian friend to City Hospital.....we had a note in Thai... I wanted to know what it said....I wanted to "jump" the very long queue which I did and asked the Doc what the note said. HIS reply was " I AM NOT A SLAVE TO YOU"

I was livid, so all of you would have been too.

Why did you not ask the doctor who gave you the note? Or any nurse? Or just wait for your turn? I would never get the idea too jump a queue to talk with a doctor about my treatment.

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

Yea then I can understand you were angry.. but what made the doctor write something like that.. were you rude or what. I mean.. must be some reason for it. 

 

very demanding perhaps...

[janclaes47]

2 hours ago, essox essox said:

read what I wrote....there were many people waiting to see that Doc...my question regarding the note from chonburi would have only taken a few minutes to tell me what it said..

You don't need a doctor to read a note is it?

 

Anyone at the reception could have read the note, and there was no need to jump the queue.

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:

Because a mentally challenged male thinks he is a female, doesn't mean there is a " that time of the month".

Mentally challenged? A doctor? Bigotry in action. 

[janclaes47]

3 minutes ago, jackdd said:

My GF worked in ER before and for Thais it seems to be quite normal to head to the ER for minor things. Probably this doctor was not OK with it which i can totally understand.

The OP says that they registered at the hospital, so I'm sure that the people at the registration department have asked him what he came for, and they should have send him to the right department.

 

 

[janclaes47]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Mentally challenged? A doctor? Bigotry in action. 

Up to you, I am entitled to my opinion, and in my opinion ladyboys are mentally ill people.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:

Up to you, I am entitled to my opinion, and in my opinion ladyboys are mentally ill people.

Yes, you are and I think people that think "ladyboys" are all mentally ill only based on their gender identity are totally ignorant BIGOTS and promoters of unfair hatred towards an entire class of human beings.  Okie dokie? 

 

Of course, some "ladyboys" are mentally ill just as some transphobic bigots are mentally ill. 

Edited April 23, 2018 by Jingthing

[janclaes47]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Yes, you are and I think people that think "ladyboys" are all mentally ill only based on their gender identity are totally ignorant BIGOTS.  Okie dokie? 

Didn't you told me yesterday that I shouldn't play the person, and now you come here insulting me on the open forum?

 

 

Why not bring some of your other cry baby arguments into it, I can think about a few you like to use over and over.

 

 

Edited April 23, 2018 by janclaes47

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:

Didn't you told me yesterday that I shouldn't play the person, and now you come here insulting me on the open forum?

 

 

Why not bring some of your other cry baby arguments into it, I can think about a few you like to use over and over.

 

 

I was speaking of transphobic bigots in general. If you happen to identify as a transphobic bigot, that's really a private matter for you to deal with. 

I'll ignore the rest of your obnoxious comment.

People feel free hear to trash entire classes of human beings that they have been conditioned to think are inferior to them. Fair minded, more tolerant better educated people really should call that out.

Sometimes it's hard to do.

Say you're in a social situation and someone starts spouting hate speech against a group. Most people just shut up because they want to fit in, not make waves, even when they don't share the bigoted POV. 

More people SHOULD speak out. Bigotry is an evil in society and silent people help it grow. 

Edited April 23, 2018 by Jingthing

[shady86]

Dont expect much from public hospitals.

[The Deerhunter]

2 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

Really? ER  personnel from around the world would probably applaud or smile or  say "right on". The hospital is a public hospital and its clientele are typically the poor and disadvantaged.  There was probably one overworked physician on staff and in walks the non emergency farang cheap charlie. If he wanted urgent care he should have gone to a proper hospital where there were multiple physicians available.

 

Ahh, but here's the issue; the doctor should not have been presented with this case. In properly managed ERs there is a triage process, where the  patients are screened, usually by a nurse. True emergency cases get priority. Other cases, wait. This is a short staffed underfunded facility. It doesn't have the resources to dispense free medical care to foreigners.

 

An ER is not intended to treat non critical care cases.

 

 Quote:  What is ER for than to treat ear? People and stupid doctor need to learn English. (he was Iranian and she was Thai.)

 

Come on G.K.  The guyfromanotherforum was making a joke/using a pun.    "ER" sounds like "ER":   Er, um, I mean, it sounds like "ear."  ER; ear:   He could still have been referred courteously to an appropriate outpatient clinic.  I have had bad earache.  An abscess that is about to burst sure feels like an emergency.  If that was it then he has my sympathy.  As a kid I had them several times.  Drs should not use such phraseology at any time of the night.  More hypocritical than Hypocratical..  (another play on words.)

[NeilSA1]

Perhaps they thought this was an   EaR room

[The Deerhunter]

16 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:

Didn't you told me yesterday that I shouldn't play the person, and now you come here insulting me on the open forum?

 

 

Why not bring some of your other cry baby arguments into it, I can think about a few you like to use over and over.

 

 

Oh!!!!!  Somebody's time of the month!

[Formaleins]

What isn't mentioned and I may only presume (giving the patient the benefit of the doubt) that it possibly happened at night when there are no other doctors or clinics open.

No an ear infection is not life threatening, but if you have ever suffered from some problem late at night and you may only be desperate for pain relief, then there often isn't any other option.

[AsiaHand]

The Doctor is right.This is not an emergency unless he is in serious pain.Go to a clinic cheap Charlie.

[chippendale]

A defamation case looms.

 

Quality Iranian tourist shouldn't waste the Emergency Unit's time if his ear hurts a little.

[atyclb]

1 hour ago, arithai12 said:

It was his Thai girlfriend who took him to ER, she who turned to reporters with this non-story, and she who had to remark that the doctor was a katoey. I can imagine that there was a verbal fight between the precious girlfriend and the doctor, with pride taking over logic.

 

 

 

 

i am aware of the non logic, non thinking, self entitlement pseudo-sophisticated arrogant style of some pattaya style holiday girlfriends. 

 

in thai society theres no lack of looking down and laughing at ladyboys. i can just see the holiday gf feeling slighted because in this case the object of condescension (ladyboy) achieved an admirable and difficult goal in becoming a doctor and for once the tables are turned. i have known several super(b) gay and lesbian doctors and their sexual orientation is a non factor imo.

 

ear infections are unfortunately routinely seen in usa er's except when fast track clinic is available to relieve the load.  severity of problem determines who is seen next. people with stuffed noses and earaches will have to wait until those with more serious problems are stabilized.

 

some complicated ear infections do warrant an er especially an inner ear infection or infection with possible spread to nearby bone or brain.    

 

most ear infections do not need an ent specialist.

 

nowadays you can google ear infection and find treatment and antibiotics and ibuprofen are non prescription in thailand. save time and money

Edited April 23, 2018 by atyclb

[Neeranam]

What has the doctor's gender got to do with anything?

[atyclb]

1 hour ago, arithai12 said:

It was his Thai girlfriend who took him to ER, she who turned to reporters with this non-story, and she who had to remark that the doctor was a katoey. I can imagine that there was a verbal fight between the precious girlfriend and the doctor, with pride taking over logic.

 

 

 

"logic" .  where, how,...?  in thailand logic is reportable. where did you observe it?

Edited April 23, 2018 by atyclb

[dunroaming]

5 hours ago, ezzra said:

Could have gone to a private clinic there' are dozens of them there

and no ladyboys doctors....stingy Iranian....

 

I am not looking to make excuses for the Iranian but surely the blame here lies with the Thai female who took him there.  As a foreigner he wouldn't know the procedure but she should do.  You can go to the hospital as well as a private clinic to be seen for general health issues without going to A&E.

 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Furious girlfriend Pornthida Thundee, 25, from Surin, turned to reporters at PattayaupdateNews after she said that she took 28 year old Iranian tourist Mohammad Hassan Forghani to the emergency room.

 

 

[jobwolf]

5 hours ago, tingtongtourist said:

sounds fair to me

the doc probably seen enough carnage from road accidents  

who goes to ER with an ear ache?

pussy

Read the report properly. Have you ever had a bad ear ache? if you cant think don't bother responding to news. there are already enough ignorant people on this website without you.

[speckio]

4 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

What is ER for than to treat ear? People and stupid doctor need to learn English. 

 

First off before criticizing and judging other people for using improper English maybe you should take your own advice cause judging by what you just wrote your English isn't so great either... secondly English is obviously not the Dr's native language it's Thai so they have a pretty good excuse for not being able to use "perfect English" whats your excuse?

[tandor]

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

The headline is highly unfair and misleading.... 

 

The Dr. working the ER was right, an ear infection is not an Emergency Case - but the handling of the situation was clumsy in the extreme. 

 

IF at night time and there was no ENT outpatient treatment available then the patient at least needs pain relief.

 

IF in the daytime and ENT Doctors are on duty the patient can simply be re-routed to that department. It's not always clear where to go in the hospitals, especially for visitors. 

..give him some 'Tiffy'..be right in a 'Jiffy'.