Thaksin wants to return home, says Chavalit

[rooster59]

Thaksin wants to return home, says Chavalit

By THE NATION

 

 

FORMER prime minister Chavalit Yongchaiyudh yesterday said he felt fugitive ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra wanted to return home when they talked on the phone “a few days ago”.

 

Chavalit, 86, refused to say how often he talked to Thaksin and who had made the call in their latest conversation.

He suggested that Thaksin needed to “do good deeds for the people” to gain support from the majority of Thailand’s 65 million population, who would then back his return home.

 

“Khun Thaksin did not have to tell me he wanted to return home. I knew that he did, judging from his voice. All of us want to return [be] home,” Chavalit said, adding that Thaksin had retained his loyalty to the Thai monarchy and his homeland.

Thaksin left Thailand in 2008, shortly before the Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Political Office Holders sentenced him in absentia to two years’ imprisonment for abuse of power. He has since lived in self-exile overseas. Chavalit talked to reporters at a restaurant in Bangkok’s Rama III Road area. 

 

He called for the formation of a “provisional government” at least five months before the next general election is held, explaining that the administration would be charged with solving certain problems to prepare for the poll.

 

A former Army General, Chavalit yesterday defended the ruling junta – the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) – which is blamed for failing to solve the country’s problems after four years in power. 

 

He said a vicious cycle of election, military coup and a new constitution had taken place again and again since Thailand became a constitutional monarchy in 1932. “Thailand is the only country to have 20 constitutions. Most other countries have only one or two each,” he said.

 

Chavalit served as the Royal Thai Army commander-in-chief from 1986 to 1990, and was prime minister from 1996 to 1997.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30345777

 

 

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[darksidedog]

I see nothing to stop him coming home anytime he wants. He has accommodation waiting for him, and three meals a day for two years, and I am pretty sure he will get a free pick up from the airport too!

[Samui Bodoh]

Thaksin is never coming back; that is the lesson from the events of 2013 (before Suthep's rent-a-mob took over).

 

Is that a fair outcome? THAT is the fascinating question (although moot). Is Thaksin much/any different from a hundred/eight hundred/three thousand other Hi-Sos or Military Officers? Is there any 'legitimacy' to his 'conviction'? If there is 'legitimacy' to his 'conviction', would it not be proper or just for hundreds/thousands of other Hi-Sos or Military Officers to be tried and sentenced as well?

 

Future historians, if they are permitted to write as they choose, are going to have a field day with this question.

 

 

Edited May 19, 2018 by Samui Bodoh
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[YetAnother]

10 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

He suggested that Thaksin needed to “do good deeds for the people” to gain support from the majority of Thailand’s 65 million population, who would then back his return home.

how many carts before how many horses does that 'logic' amount to ? he has to do good deeds from abroad before he is welcomed into the country ? setting aside for a moment the legalities and the many enemies he has made, only way seems to be he would throw money , lot of it , at the people; that is called a bribe, itself illegal;

on the whole, impractical;

only way would be a royal pardon

[zaphod reborn]

There's a nice room waiting for him at the Bangkok Hilton.

[bluesofa]

6 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

He suggested that Thaksin needed to “do good deeds for the people” to gain support from the majority of Thailand’s 65 million population, who would then back his return home.

I would thought he needed to serve his jail-time. Then he might gain support.

 

Having said that, doing the right thing (even eventually) isn't something seen as important here. 'Morals' isn't really a word that is high on the mind of many of the population.

 

[worgeordie]

If he had not done a runner,and completed his sentence,most likely

6 months in a VIP cell, not with 20 other sweaty inmates,he would

be free to do what he wants,except be PM again as convicted criminals

are not allowed to be.

 

I think his greatest wish would be to return to Thailand on a white horse

and save the country

regards Worgeordie

[Darcula]

28 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

a vicious cycle of election, military coup and a new constitution

 

The last one was supposed to be different. This time it was for the good of the people.

 

[bluesofa]

1 minute ago, worgeordie said:

If he had not done a runner,and completed his sentence,most likely

6 months in a VIP cell, not with 20 other sweaty inmates,he would

be free to do what he wants,except be PM again as convicted criminals

are not allowed to be.

 

I think his greatest wish would be to return to Thailand on a white horse

and save the country

regards Worgeordie

I can't imagine Thaksin thinking white horse, perhaps a more neutral tone might be more acceptable.

 

[bluesofa]

2 minutes ago, Darcula said:

 

The last one was supposed to be different. This time it was for the good of the people.

 

Which two people were they?

 

[Thailand]

There is definitely one way he could safely return that was mentioned earlier and not beyond the realms of possibility based on past relationships.

[ezzra]

Thaksin wants to return home... and i want a Ferrari and hot model for a girlfriend,

should have paid your debt to society, the same society that mad you a billionaire several times over, and by now you would have probably been re elected again you silly man...

[alfalfa19]

Good luck with that, sphincter boy. 

[Eric Loh]

The new owners of the Nation edited the interview where Chavalit warned the military of the consequences of prolonging their dominance and he will never support Prayut. The military is not united. 

[klauskunkel]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

Thaksin wants to return home, says Chavalit

Well, tell him to click his heels three times...

[Anak Nakal]

If Thaksin go to jail, he not come back.

[ChiangMaiLightning2143]

45 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

If he had not done a runner,and completed his sentence,most likely

6 months in a VIP cell, not with 20 other sweaty inmates,he would

be free to do what he wants,except be PM again as convicted criminals

are not allowed to be.

 

I think his greatest wish would be to return to Thailand on a white horse

and save the country

regards Worgeordie

Maybe house arrest or held in Officer's quarters under quard on a base but  where are these so-called VIP cells? Perhaps you can provide a link?  Thai prisons don't offer aircon and a room service menu with ensuite "massages" available from 10AM-10PM either.

 

 

[smedly]

1 hour ago, darksidedog said:

I see nothing to stop him coming home anytime he wants. He has accommodation waiting for him, and three meals a day for two years, and I am pretty sure he will get a free pick up from the airport too!

I agree, there is absolutely nothing stopping this corrupt criminal from returning to Thailand, me as a foreigner can be here but something seems to be stopping him getting on the plane, oh and 2 years is ……..so far, I suspect when it it is all said and done through the courts it will be more like 100 years

 

best he stays in Dubai and tries to enjoy the dirty Billions he stole from the Thai people.

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, Samui Bodoh said:

Thaksin is never coming back; that is the lesson from the events of 2013 (before Suthep's rent-a-mob took over).

 

Is that a fair outcome? THAT is the fascinating question (although moot). Is Thaksin much/any different from a hundred/eight hundred/three thousand other Hi-Sos or Military Officers? Is there any 'legitimacy' to his 'conviction'? If there is 'legitimacy' to his 'conviction', would it not be proper or just for hundreds/thousands of other Hi-Sos or Military Officers to be tried and sentenced as well?

 

Future historians, if they are permitted to write as they choose, are going to have a field day with this question.

 

 

 

 

"...If there is 'legitimacy' to his 'conviction'..."

 

You know well that he clearly broke a serious Thai law about abuse of authority, a law in place to protect the county from politicians or anybody from stealing the common wealth of all Thais, laws which are in place in 99%, perhaps 100% of all the countries in the world. plus the case was heard and he was found guilty and sentenced to 2 years imprisonment during a time period where his own party was in power.

 

"...would it not be proper or just for hundreds/thousands of other Hi-Sos or Military Officers to be tried and sentenced as well?..."

 

Well you mention hi-so and military officers for the slant your obviously looking for but the truth is it would be more accurate to write would it be more accurate to write "......would it not be proper or just for all folks who have broken laws to be tried and sentenced as well?...

 

That would be a fair appraoch, but do the processes of the law actually work like that?. No.

 

A murderer of a corrupt politician or whoever could claim 'not all murderers have been caught and punished so it's not fair to charge me with murder (or corruption or abuse of authority, or whatever) or punish me. So you should just let me go.

 

I put it back to the poster, would you support this approach to the application and process of the law? 

 

I hope not and I wouldn't want my kids to grow up in a society which supported this appraoch to the application and process of the law.

 

 

 

 

 

[scorecard]

5 minutes ago, smedly said:

I agree, there is absolutely nothing stopping this corrupt criminal from returning to Thailand, me as a foreigner can be here but something seems to be stopping him getting on the plane, oh and 2 years is ……..so far, I suspect when it it is all said and done through the courts it will be more like 100 years

 

best he stays in Dubai and tries to enjoy the dirty Billions he stole from the Thai people.

 

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  1 hour ago, darksidedog said:

I see nothing to stop him coming home anytime he wants. He has accommodation waiting for him, and three meals a day for two years, and I am pretty sure he will get a free pick up from the airport too! 

...oh and 2 years is ……..so far, I suspect when it it is all said and done through the courts it will be more like 100 years.....

 

Chavalit must have a short memory to put the shin name and rice in the same sentence. 

 

 

 

[smedly]

6 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

 

"...If there is 'legitimacy' to his 'conviction'..."

 

You know well that he clearly broke a serious Thai law about abuse of authority, a law in place to protect the county from politicians or anybody from stealing the common wealth of all Thais, laws which are in place in 99%, perhaps 100% of all the countries in the world. plus the case was heard and he was found guilty and sentenced to 2 years imprisonment during a time period where his own party was in power.

 

"...would it not be proper or just for hundreds/thousands of other Hi-Sos or Military Officers to be tried and sentenced as well?..."

 

Well you mention hi-so and military officers for the slant your obviously looking for but the truth is it would be more accurate to write would it be more accurate to write "......would it not be proper or just for all folks who have broken laws to be tried and sentenced as well?...

 

That would be a fair appraoch, but do the processes of the law actually work like that?. No.

 

A murderer of a corrupt politician or whoever could claim 'not all murderers have been caught and punished so it's not fair to charge me with murder (or corruption or abuse of authority, or whatever) or punish me. So you should just let me go.

 

I put it back to the poster, would you support this approach to the application and process of the law? 

 

I hope not and I wouldn't want my kids to grow up in a society which supported this appraoch to the application and process of the law.

 

 

 

 

 

There are countries in the world were Thaksins level of corruption would result in the death penalty

 

and I agree there are many more in Thailand that need to be brought before the courts - simple rule - how many millions/billions do you have - how did you get it, why is your gardener super rich - what is that buried in the back garden………………….

 

all these people declare their wealth on paper lol, lets what happens if Thailand decides to make all current 1000 baht banknotes null and void and requires everyone to exchange them at a bank and also declare where they got such big wads of millions/billions cash, never happen because those that would make it happen are those that have all the dirty money   

[soalbundy]

1 hour ago, zaphod reborn said:

There's a nice room waiting for him at the Bangkok Hilton.

I don't think so, he's a clever boy. This has been done to keep the interest in PT, those rural voters sitting on the fence may now be convinced to vote for the party as the 'saviour' is now coming back.

[KiwiKiwi]

1 hour ago, darksidedog said:

I see nothing to stop him coming home anytime he wants. He has accommodation waiting for him, and three meals a day for two years, and I am pretty sure he will get a free pick up from the airport too!

 

Probably right and I would support any move to imprison him, for what that's worth - which isn't very much.

 

Just as soon as all the bigger criminals and corrupt officials are imprisoned first.

 

Spoiled for choice in Thailand, pick a card, any card and start looking closely.

[bluesofa]

4 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

I don't think so, he's a clever boy. This has been done to keep the interest in PT, those rural voters sitting on the fence may now be convinced to vote for the party as the 'saviour' is now coming back.

I must be confused. I thought the present PM was the Supreme Saviour?

 

[mikebell]

1 hour ago, bluesofa said:

I can't imagine Thaksin thinking white horse, perhaps a more neutral tone might be more acceptable.

 

A red one to match his shirt?

[bristolgeoff]

if he did not run and spend time in the bangkok hilton,yinglick too.then after they time spent locked up,no problem.never will happen thou

[bluesofa]

5 minutes ago, mikebell said:

1 hour ago, bluesofa said:

I can't imagine Thaksin thinking white horse, perhaps a more neutral tone might be more acceptable.

 

A red one to match his shirt

 

Are you sure you're not thinking of a red bull?

 

Edited May 19, 2018 by bluesofa

[Lupatria]

1 hour ago, bluesofa said:

Which two people were they?

 

You mean in general(s)?

[KiwiKiwi]

 

That brought some of the the Shin-haters out. I wondered where they'd been hiding...

[soalbundy]

1 minute ago, KiwiKiwi said:

 

That brought some of the the Shin-haters out. I wondered where they'd been hiding...

All been busy with brexit.