EU supporters march in London to call for Brexit deal referendum

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EU supporters march in London to call for Brexit deal referendum

 

EU supporters, calling on the government to give Britons a vote on the final Brexit deal, participate in the 'People's Vote' march in central London, Britain June 23, 2018. REUTERS/Henry Nicholls

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Thousands of supporters of the European Union gathered in central London on Saturday to call on the British government to hold a final public vote on the terms of Brexit.

 

Two years after the country voted 52 to 48 percent to leave the world's biggest trading bloc, polls show political divisions over Brexit are entrenched and, despite some confusion over what Brexit will mean, there has been no clear change of heart.

 

The "People's Vote" campaign, which includes several pro-EU groups, aims to ensure a public ballot "so that we can decide if a decision that will affect our lives for generations makes the country better or worse off".

 

A Survation poll earlier this week found that 48 percent of respondents supported a referendum on the final deal, while 25 percent were opposed.

 

As yet there is no certainty about what the final deal could look like amid infighting in Prime Minister Theresa May's Conservative government as well as among some of its opponents about what they want from Britain's new trading ties with the EU after it leaves in March next year.

 

"FREEDOM TO BUST OUT"

 

Britain's foreign minister Boris Johnson, one of the main proponents of the "Leave" vote, has meanwhile written an article in the tabloid newspaper the Sun defending Brexit.

 

Britain had voted for "the freedom to bust out of the corsets of EU regulation and rules" he said, and any softening of the final deal - such as continued membership of the single market and customs union - would be unwelcome.

 

Those who voted for Brexit had not changed their minds, he said. "They don't want some bog roll Brexit - soft, yielding and seemingly infinitely long" he said, using a British slang expression for toilet paper.

 

Johnson was also quoted in the Telegraph newspaper by two diplomatic sources as strongly dismissing business leaders' concerns about the impact of Brexit.

 

Speaking on BBC radio Jurgen Maier, head of German manufacturer Siemens in Britain, said slogans about Brexit were "incredibly unhelpful".

 

"What we need to do now is get closer to our European partners and work out what a realistic, pragmatic Brexit is, which works for both sides," he said.

 

On Friday, Airbus said that if Britain were to leave the EU without a deal it would be forced to reconsider its long-term position and put UK jobs at risk.

 

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-06-23

[evadgib]

Thankfully VAR doesn't yet apply re politics.

 

[citybiker]

Oh yes Airbus, anyone highlighting how much it would cost them to assemble the wings in the EU?

Companies like Airbus are in the UK for a reason, not forgetting the illegal EU payments made to Airbus? Tut tut.

As for the March, protest whatever.....good for them, it's yet another democratic right.


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[Grouse]

3 hours ago, citybiker said:

Oh yes Airbus, anyone highlighting how much it would cost them to assemble the wings in the EU?

Companies like Airbus are in the UK for a reason, not forgetting the illegal EU payments made to Airbus? Tut tut.

As for the March, protest whatever.....good for them, it's yet another democratic right.


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We used to have a share in Airbus?

 

[pegman]

U.K. will be a basket case in 5 years. 

[bannork]

1 hour ago, pegman said:

U.K. will be a basket case in 5 years. 

Expect a flood of British migrants, young men mainly, landing on the Baltic coast in search of jobs and a better future.

[pegman]

Well it looks like the people are coming to their senses. What a disaster. Time for another vote.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-second-referendum-eu-withdrawal-bill-people-vote-a8413116.html

[leither69]

If they lose again, will they ask for another vote!!  What's done is done. Time to move on and make our way in the world 

[sawadee1947]

it's good to know that there might be some Brits with brain

[sawadee1947]

20 minutes ago, leither69 said:

If they lose again, will they ask for another vote!!  What's done is done. Time to move on and make our way in the world 

if you move on that way you will probably meet Thailand very soon. Congrats!

[sawadee1947]

4 hours ago, bannork said:

Expect a flood of British migrants, young men mainly, landing on the Baltic coast in search of jobs and a better future.

Germany's borders are still open. Come on Brits, the chance of your life to live in a developed country!

[DILLIGAD]

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[citybiker]

U.K. will be a basket case in 5 years. 

Only if the British electorate are niave and gullible enough to allow Corybn into office.

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[Kiwiken]

A European Economic Community was always a great idea for a trading Bloc. A European Super Nation is a geopolitical nightmare to be avoided. But Brussels lusts for the power it thinks this brings

[Chomper Higgot]

13 minutes ago, DILLIGAD said:

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The UK fought WW2 for reasons of self preservation.

 

The US insisted on the UK paying its war debt with the specific intent of forcing the collapse of the British Empire.

 

 

[sawadee1947]

23 minutes ago, DILLIGAD said:

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oh, the benefits of cherry picking is included?

[pegman]

20 minutes ago, citybiker said:

Only if the British electorate are niave and gullible enough to allow Corybn into office.

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Labour didn't start this road to ruin. It is Cameron's debacle.

 

[sawadee1947]

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The UK fought WW2 for reasons of self preservation.

 

The US insisted on the UK paying its war debt with the specific intent of forcing the collapse of the British Empire.

 

 

Now, that is past almost 70 years. You paid the fee for being a free country or do you think you would be better off with a German Chancellor ruling Britain? (though you got a lot of German Royals on the throne already!) It's a shame that UK is the only country showing all these bullshit war movies, day by day. You can't accept that you lost all your colonies and almost the war? You can't accept that the time you might have been number one in Europe (in your eyes) is gone for ever?

[citybiker]

Labour didn't start this road to ruin. It is Cameron's debacle.
 

I concur, Cameron's legacy is not what he planned or wanted.

Thankfully the right decision was democratically decided upon and now it's time to love on.

IMO If there's 2 distinctive names that will be the Brexit legacy, it'll be Cameron & Grieves.

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[Kiwiken]

52 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The UK fought WW2 for reasons of self preservation.

 

The US insisted on the UK paying its war debt with the specific intent of forcing the collapse of the British Empire.

 

 

Britain fought the War to uphold its obligations under treatise with France and Poland. had it not been for people like Winston Churchill and the ordinary People they may well have capitulated .

The second Statement is true though many would deny what you have said.

[Chomper Higgot]

39 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Now, that is past almost 70 years. You paid the fee for being a free country or do you think you would be better off with a German Chancellor ruling Britain? (though you got a lot of German Royals on the throne already!) It's a shame that UK is the only country showing all these bullshit war movies, day by day. You can't accept that you lost all your colonies and almost the war? You can't accept that the time you might have been number one in Europe (in your eyes) is gone for ever?

Please, I hope you’re not referring to me personally.

[sawadee1947]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Please, I hope you’re not referring to me personally.

I can't. I don't know you. 

[citybiker]

oh, the benefits of cherry picking is included?

I highly doubt that in 1945, in which this article referring to that cherry picking wasn't even thought, survival was.

Maybe 'some' should remember that.


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[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Kiwiken said:

Britain fought the War to uphold its obligations under treatise with France and Poland. had it not been for people like Winston Churchill and the ordinary People they may well have capitulated .

The second Statement is true though many would deny what you have said.

Britain upheld those treaties because it was in Britain’s interests to do so.

 

And the war was fought by ‘allies’, thousands of mainland Europeans served in the British forces. As did hundreds of thousands of people from the British Empire.

 

But you’ll not often see these truths in the monochromatic Ealing Studios war movies that inform so much of British views on how The was was fought and who fought it.

[citybiker]

A European Economic Community was always a great idea for a trading Bloc. A European Super Nation is a geopolitical nightmare to be avoided. But Brussels lusts for the power it thinks this brings

I concur and well said, the original EEC principle, foundation and format was positive way forward, not autocratic authoritarian's.

Brussel's in its former shadowy self, today is an imploded elitist unfit for purpose shambolic EU.


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[FitnessHealthTravel]

Just get on with the EXIT and get back to being GREAT again ?

[evadgib]

14 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

I can't. I don't know you. 

...or any of these ?

[sawadee1947]

3 minutes ago, evadgib said:

...or any of these ?

Now I know you better. So I meant YOU

[Baerboxer]

16 hours ago, evadgib said:

Thankfully VAR doesn't yet apply re politics.

 

 

But the "advisory" referendum which the cowardly Cameron ineptly tried to use for his own ends, was in fact a U-Turn on the previous referendum held prior to joining what was then the Common Market.

 

If you think there are no U-Turns in politics you must be some kind of hermit.

[Baerboxer]

26 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Britain upheld those treaties because it was in Britain’s interests to do so.

 

And the war was fought by ‘allies’, thousands of mainland Europeans served in the British forces. As did hundreds of thousands of people from the British Empire.

 

But you’ll not often see these truths in the monochromatic Ealing Studios war movies that inform so much of British views on how The was was fought and who fought it.

 

Nor will you see many truths in Hollywood technicolor films either.