The Official Manchester City Thread

[Bredbury Blue]

1 hour ago, RickG16 said:

A minor incident. WHAT? we are talking about a series of very serious incidents. 

I did not see any alleged racist actions during the game but i understand a guy has been charged: I'm about as bothered with it as i was with the Sterling / Chelsea incident, or the multiple times it happened to Yaya and Balotelli - there are idiots out there.

 

I am definitely bothered though by the idiots - and i guess there was more than one - throwing things at Fred.

[Bredbury Blue]

12 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

about moronic fans who were being completely out of order. What do they have in common? They support jumped up Citeh.

 

No class. They've only just discovered how to win, so of course they don't know how to handle it when you lose what you've won. 

I agree that there were several moronic City fans.

 

"Jumped up Citeh"...that's what this really is about isn't it. It hurts that you've  been knocked off your perch these past 8 years by liccle City,  and you know what, it's going to get worse for you: your local derby opponents liverpool (that derby bit always makes me laugh) are going to be moving closer to catching up your league titles record and you know what, there's <deleted> all you can do about it because you won't even finish in the top 4.

 

No class? All this bile is coming from a fan of the english club with the worst hooliganism record in my lifetime.

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, RickG16 said:

Look... I count myself as one of the people who is glad to leave the PC brigade in the UK behind. But get serious mate... anyone can see what that guy was doing, and the noise which came out of his mouth.

 

The life changing nature of what happened should be more than enough punishment for him. This isn't about an individual,  and it's not just about racism. It's about moronic fans who were being completely out of order. What do they have in common? They support jumped up Citeh.

 

No class. They've only just discovered how to win, so of course they don't know how to handle it when you lose what you've won. 

 

If I were a juror i'd struggle to convict if the MotD footage was all that was available. 

[RickG16]

2 minutes ago, evadgib said:

If I were a juror i'd struggle to convict if the MotD footage was all that was available. 

I've not seen the MOTD footage. Just the photo was clear enough. We aren't talking about a court of  law. We are talking about common sense and what we can all see.

 

As I said, it is not just about this guy. It is about the fans, the collective, the club. They just don't know how to conduct themselves at this level. 

 

I remember when Porto had humiliated us at home in the quarter-finals of the Champions League. Fergie made a point of going in the away dressing room and congratulating each player individually. Then there was occasions when we've applauded opposition players off the pitch after being beaten in important games. I wouldn't expect either of those things after a derby - but that's the difference between the two clubs. 

[evadgib]

11 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

I've not seen the MOTD footage. Just the photo was clear enough. We aren't talking about a court of  law. We are talking about common sense and what we can all see.

 

As I said, it is not just about this guy. It is about the fans, the collective, the club. They just don't know how to conduct themselves at this level. 

 

I remember when Porto had humiliated us at home in the quarter-finals of the Champions League. Fergie made a point of going in the away dressing room and congratulating each player individually. Then there was occasions when we've applauded opposition players off the pitch after being beaten in important games. I wouldn't expect either of those things after a derby - but that's the difference between the two clubs. 

I've just seen this from 'arry Redknapp ????

 

[RickG16]

20 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I've just seen this from 'arry Redknapp ????

 

Let's get this straight. The rascism was isolated. The appalling behaviour wasn't. 

[mrbojangles]

On 12/7/2019 at 2:30 PM, RickG16 said:

Have a good one @mrbojangles ... take some photos!

[RickG16]

56 minutes ago, mrbojangles said:

Not bad seats at all. Shame about the fight. But he had to get the job done.

[mrbojangles]

6 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

Not bad seats at all. Shame about the fight. But he had to get the job done.

Yeah the seats where good, although it poured it down most of the night. In Saudi !!!

 

The fight wasn't the best entertaining wise (nor the majority of the under cards) but as you say, he had to get the job done. Slugging it out would have played into Ruiz hands

[balo]

City not the same team as earlier seasons,  it makes the PL more interesting to watch. 
I hate it when one team dominates the football leagues just because they got more money than anyone else.  

 

[BangrakBob]

8 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

  and you know what, it's going to get worse for you: your local derby opponents liverpool (that derby bit always makes me laugh) are going to be moving closer to catching up your league titles record and you know what, there's <deleted> all you can do about it because you won't even finish in the top 4.

 

Hoooold up, Rogers, Foxes aren't going anywhere. It would be just like him to turn up and throw the script out the window. If they do, I'm moving to Mongolia to farm Larmas. 

 

 

[Bredbury Blue]

5 hours ago, BangrakBob said:

Hoooold up, Rogers, Foxes aren't going anywhere. It would be just like him to turn up and throw the script out the window. If they do, I'm moving to Mongolia to farm Larmas. 

 

 

It's over. It's just a case of how many points liverpool win it by and who comes 2nd to 4th.

[Bredbury Blue]

12 hours ago, RickG16 said:

Let's get this straight. The rascism was isolated. The appalling behaviour wasn't. 

Yeah let's get this straight.

 

The ALLEGED racism was isolated. He says he didn't do it. We'll find out in time if he did. Apparently these days if you call someone a pedo guy its just banter but that logic doesn't yet apply in the heat of the moment nor does it apply when making a joke with a friend when racism is alleged. Its every week now that we read of alleged racism or homophobia in football, it's  become very complex

 

The appalling behaviour of a few idiots WAS isolated to a few idiots. This game has had similar incidents over the years FROM BOTH SETS OF SUPPORTERS so you can cease with your nonsense criticism of a "classless club etc" you little sensationalist you:

 

"Rio was left with blood pouring down his face, having been struck by a coin thrown from the crowd while he and his United team-mates celebrated a dramatic stoppage-time winner from Robin van Persie.

 

Craig Bellamy was hit by a coin and narrowly missed by a bottle while playing for City at Old Trafford in January 2010.

 

Fred was struck by a cigarette lighter on Saturday...".

[Sparkles]

16 hours ago, RickG16 said:

A minor incident. WHAT? we are talking about a series of very serious incidents. 

That was no minor incident and City hierachy were quickly out of the blocks to say they were taking it very seriously. More to come from the FA, it must be stopped.

 

No one has mentioned it, as far as I can see, but apart from that section of "fans" being mostly total morons the fact that they were losing against a team they had dismissed as now inferior was fuel on the fire. 

 

Many will give evidence, if required, there was the obnoxious monkey chant and the moron who made it will get a lifetime ban, not that it will probably worry he will be able to boast to his mates at the pub how much money he is saving by not going to games.

 

The other objects thrown, there for all to see, should be charged with assault. Hardly a place you would want to take the family with foul mouthed louts able to have a freedom that should just not be allowed .Maybe the option is to have club officials to be part of the crowd not just manning the touchline.

 

BB and I have had this discussion before he suggests that "hatred" for another team is acceptable, world wide and permissible in the case of City v United not for me and if anyone wants to carry this "chip" on their shoulder through their lifetime should either get some counseling or stay right away from the game

[Bredbury Blue]

3 hours ago, Sparkles said:

and City hierachy were quickly out of the blocks to say they were taking it very seriously. More to come from the FA, it must be stopped

Totally agree with you "it must be stopped", and our 'classless manager' was it you called him was quick to talk / console Fred. There's no place for idiots in football at any club. I hope they catch and ban the idiots who were throwing at Fred and if the guy was being racist same to him too.

 

But it seems to me, based on your comments the past few days about classless upstart City, that (1) you are on a crusade to tar my club because of a few idiots when I've already pointed out that your club's fans did similar to Bellamy several years ago and (2) you don't seem to be handling ManU's demise to City this past decade too well - ManU do not have a god given right to always be the no.1 you know, if you learn anything about football it's that its cyclical - just look at ManU and Arsenal downturn as evidence of that and who could have imagined that happening when Sheikh Mansour bought liccle Citeh 11 years ago - "not in my lifetime" 555.

 

 

[RickG16]

Am I right in thinking that City haven't yet made a formal public apology to the club? If that isn't  warranted after putting players' safety in jeopardy then I don't know when it is.

 

It's about showing a little bit of class. City could come out of this looking so much better if they at least conducted themselves like any proper organisation should do. 

[Bredbury Blue]

9 hours ago, Sparkles said:

BB and I have had this discussion before he suggests that "hatred" for another team is acceptable, world wide and permissible in the case of City v United not for me and if anyone wants to carry this "chip" on their shoulder through their lifetime should either get some counseling or stay right away from the game

Carry a "chip" on their shoulder. Who are you? I remember when you and i 'the discussion' you refer to, i asked you where you are from / brought up. I don't believe you answered. So how about answering. 

 

[Bredbury Blue]

6 hours ago, RickG16 said:

Am I right in thinking that City haven't yet made a formal public apology to the club? If that isn't  warranted after putting players' safety in jeopardy then I don't know when it is.

 

It's about showing a little bit of class. City could come out of this looking so much better if they at least conducted themselves like any proper organisation should do. 

Apologise. Like your club (showed a little bit of class - oh yeah) did by apologising after these similar but even worse incidents...did they <deleted>

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-fan-shoved-craig-3373416

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/7090212/Manchester-United-face-action-after-Craig-Bellamy-hit-by-coin.html

[RickG16]

2 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Apologise. Like your club (showed a little bit of class - oh yeah) did by apologising after these similar but even worse incidents...did they <deleted>

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-fan-shoved-craig-3373416

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/7090212/Manchester-United-face-action-after-Craig-Bellamy-hit-by-coin.html

Find me evidence that we didn't apologise? You might have trouble digging ten years back.

 

Coin throwing is completely unacceptable. But the context is also a little different here... the target is one of the most provocative and universally hated footballers at that time, not Fred and Lingard, possibly the two most harmless players on our team. We also won the game comfortably, so this isn't not being able to handle defeat with class. Doesn't excuse it, just gives you an insight into the different mentalities.

[Bredbury Blue]

5 hours ago, RickG16 said:

Find me evidence that we didn't apologise

Find me evidence  that you did. Find me evidence that we haven't. Think you'll find it difficult if not impossible. Why? Because i don't  ever recall ANY clubs making such an apology.

 

 

[Bredbury Blue]

5 hours ago, RickG16 said:

Coin throwing is completely unacceptable. But the context is also a little different here... the target is one of the most provocative and universally hated footballers at that time, not Fred and Lingard, possibly the two most harmless players on our team. We also won the game comfortably, so this isn't not being able to handle defeat with class. Doesn't excuse it, just gives you an insight into the different mentalities

Totally agree with your comments on cointhrowing (or any violence to players spectactors officials  anyone).

 

But now you're implying it was ok for ManU idiotd to throw things at Bellamy because "he was hated" (your mate Sparkles has already told you its wrong to hate, yeah right). Sort your head out. It was wrong for ManU idiots to attack Bellamy! It was wrong for Man City idiots to attack Fred (wasn't  aware Lingard was even involved).

 

And it still seems unclear to you even though i have responded at least a handful of times, that it was an incident of a few Man City idiots and does NOT reflectly badly on Manchester City as a club no matter how much you try argue this classless nonsense. You know that as you have some intelligence but you are trying to use this incident for your own ManU biased anti-City reasons.

 

[Bredbury Blue]

Manchester United: Fans hail ‘classy’ Pep Guardiola gesture after Fred abuse

 

https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/manchester-united/manchester-united-fans-hail-classy-pep-guardiola-gesture-after-fred-abuse/

 

(seems not all ManU fans agree with Rick that Pep is "classless")

 

Guardiola talks up Man Utd after City suffer critical blow to title hopes

 

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/guardiola-talks-up-man-utd-after-city-suffer-critical-blow-to-title-hopes

 

(Seems Pep was complimentary to ManU contrary to Ricks comments)

 

[Bredbury Blue]

Should be an interesting team selection tonight. Five of last season's first-choice players are out (Laporte, Sane, Aguero, Stones and Silva) and another Zinchecnko just back in training - we never seem to be able to field the same 11 consistently which is a big factor in our current blip. Stones out and Fernandino suspended so it'll be another new CB pairing tonight.

I reckon he'll go:
Ederson
Cancelo Otamendi Garcia Mendy or Angelino (Zinchenko will come on as sub to get some minutes)
Bernardo Gundogan Foden
Mahrez Jesus (there's no one else) Sterling

The Youth team need to win to qualify otherwise i could have seen Poveda playing for Sterling and others featuring.

[Bredbury Blue]

19 hours ago, RickG16 said:

Am I right in thinking that City haven't yet made a formal public apology to the club? If that isn't  warranted after putting players' safety in jeopardy then I don't know when it is.

 

It's about showing a little bit of class. City could come out of this looking so much better if they at least conducted themselves like any proper organisation should do. 

Ricky,

 

From The Athletic's article; and no not written by their City correspondent Sam Lee.

 

"...On the day, City dealt with the incident as a grown-up club should. They followed internal processes, they identified the man involved (who denies any wrongdoing), and the police are investigating. The supporter denies the allegation. Meanwhile, their manager Pep Guardiola consoled Fred and their chief executive Ferran Soriano consulted with the United director David Gill and promised to take every possible action...

 

The Fred incident was illuminating for the clarity demonstrated by City. The club internally identified a perceived racist act, instantly made a public statement, telling the world of a “zero tolerance policy” and then outlined potential punishments for anyone found guilty of racial abuse..."

 

 

[Bredbury Blue]

Ricky, seems your 'classy' club has similar problems, no surprise there eh ????.

 

"It is now seven weeks since Manchester United drew 1-1 at home against Liverpool but, in light of this weekend’s events, it is worth recalling an incident that took place a stone’s throw away from the players’ executive boxes at Old Trafford.

As their team sought to protect a one-goal lead, one United supporter’s agitation exploded. “You <deleted> black ****”, came the alleged invective as Liverpool’s Trent Alexander-Arnold approached the touchline. The fan was rapidly identified, chucked out of the stadium and banned from attending fixtures."

 

[RickG16]

5 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Guardiola talks up Man Utd after City suffer critical blow to title hopes

 

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/guardiola-talks-up-man-utd-after-city-suffer-critical-blow-to-title-hopes

 

(Seems Pep was complimentary to ManU contrary to Ricks comments)

 

It doesn't change the fact he claimed City were the better side.

 

Look, I'm not getting dragged down into your pit of endless subjective internet research. 

[Sparkles]

23 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Totally agree with you "it must be stopped", and our 'classless manager' was it you called him was quick to talk / console Fred. There's no place for idiots in football at any club. I hope they catch and ban the idiots who were throwing at Fred and if the guy was being racist same to him too.

 

But it seems to me, based on your comments the past few days about classless upstart City, that (1) you are on a crusade to tar my club because of a few idiots when I've already pointed out that your club's fans did similar to Bellamy several years ago and (2) you don't seem to be handling ManU's demise to City this past decade too well - ManU do not have a god given right to always be the no.1 you know, if you learn anything about football it's that its cyclical - just look at ManU and Arsenal downturn as evidence of that and who could have imagined that happening when Sheikh Mansour bought liccle Citeh 11 years ago - "not in my lifetime" 555.

 

 

Are you not well ? I have never in my lifetime called your manager classless nor would I ever consider it.

 

I did say he appeared to have tossed in the towel re prospects for this season, nothing more.

 

Are you man enough to make an apology ?

 

I've been around the game as player,coach, referee,journo and CEO since 1952, you tend to pick up a bit of knowledge along the way

 

 

[Sparkles]

17 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Carry a "chip" on their shoulder. Who are you? I remember when you and i 'the discussion' you refer to, i asked you where you are from / brought up. I don't believe you answered. So how about answering. 

 

Do you make habit of asking people where they come from / brought up ????How is it relevant to any discussion ? I'm seriously worried about your mental state

 

[Bredbury Blue]

2 hours ago, Sparkles said:

Do you make habit of asking people where they come from / brought up ????How is it relevant to any discussion ? I'm seriously worried about your mental state

 

I wouldn't worry about me cobber.

 

How is it relevant? Your background compared to mine might explain why i as City fan hate ManU but you as a ManU fan don't hate any football club. But sadly we'll never know if its relevant, as you continually  duck the question.

 

[mrbojangles]

Bravo's in goal. We know what that means. 1 shot on goal and a goal conceded ????